Seattle Seahawks = Super Bowl Champions

[WSUCougar]

It deserves its own thread.

WOO-HOO!!!

[Logan]

Another thread? Now you're just being arrogant.






Congrats Seattle.

[Kodos]

Congratulations, Seahawks fans. You earned this one.

[Travis]

Finally

How I wish I didn't have to be at work today.

[Butter]

Wondering how UW fans first reacted to Pete Carroll's hiring to the Seahawks? I'm sure how they feel now... but wondering how they felt then.

[Blackadar]

Gratz to the Seattle fans.

Now they won't have to whine about not getting close calls when they lost to the Steelers a few years ago.

[Travis]

lol, you bring that up more than any Seahawk fan I know.

[dawgfan]

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

Wondering how UW fans first reacted to Pete Carroll's hiring to the Seahawks? I'm sure how they feel now... but wondering how they felt then.

Personally, I was hopeful but far from sold. I had the same questions as most folks did - Carroll's act works well at the college level, but could he get professional athletes to buy in to his mantras?

I was never someone that hated Carroll. In fact, I liked him a lot, and while it sucked to see my Huskies get stomped by his USC teams, that was more Washington's fault for hiring a fraud like Ty Willingham.

[Travis]

I think my favorite "stat" about the team.

Players on the Seahawks final active roster by draft round selection.
Rd1 (6)
Rd2 (6)
Rd3 (5)
Rd4 (6)
Rd5 (5)
Rd6 (2)
Rd7 (4)
UDFA (19)

In Schneider and Carroll we trust.

[Desnudo]

Originally Posted by Travis

I think my favorite "stat" about the team.

Players on the Seahawks final active roster by draft round selection.
Rd1 (6)
Rd2 (6)
Rd3 (5)
Rd4 (6)
Rd5 (5)
Rd6 (2)
Rd7 (4)
UDFA (19)

In Schneider and Carroll we trust.

Adderall (53)

I kid I kid

[dawgfan]

Originally Posted by Travis

I think my favorite "stat" about the team.

Players on the Seahawks final active roster by draft round selection.
Rd1 (6)
Rd2 (6)
Rd3 (5)
Rd4 (6)
Rd5 (5)
Rd6 (2)
Rd7 (4)
UDFA (19)

In Schneider and Carroll we trust.

It's also gratifying to see how many Pac-12 kids are finding success with Seattle via the UDFA route: Baldwin, Kearse, Smith, Coleman, Morgan

[Sun Tzu]

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

Is this thread about the Seahawks or Philip Seymour Hoffman?

[Vince, Pt. II]

Congrats, guys

[ISiddiqui]

Phillip Seahawk Hoffman?

[dawgfan]

Originally Posted by Vince, Pt. II

Congrats, guys

Thanks Vince. I'm not sure it's really, fully settled in yet.

I'm looking forward to many more great battles with SF - it really does make for a great rivalry. It's also a little bittersweet for me as SF is my 2nd favorite city and I have a lot of relatives in the Bay Area. Hopefully both franchises can manage the salary cap well and keep it going.

[Vince, Pt. II]

Originally Posted by dawgfan

Thanks Vince. I'm not sure it's really, fully settled in yet.

I'm looking forward to many more great battles with SF - it really does make for a great rivalry. It's also a little bittersweet for me as SF is my 2nd favorite city and I have a lot of relatives in the Bay Area. Hopefully both franchises can manage the salary cap well and keep it going.

If it's anything like my experience with the Giants winning the World Series in 2010, it's going to be a while before it really settles in

Definitely. It's always more fun when you have to earn it. What players, if any, are you guys losing after this season? 49ers are looking at some tough decisions, as Boldin, Whitner and one of our CBs whose name is escaping me at the moment are all pending FA's. highly unlikely that they can keep all three.

[Lathum]

Really happy for all my Seattle friends. Having lived there for 5 years most of them are great fans who supported the team through good and bad times. And was really excited to see a Husky score an amazing TD in the Superbowl. I think Kearse is really developing into a weapon. He has had some amazing grabs this year.

[Ronnie Dobbs3]

Once they draft ASJ you might be able to see more of that.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs3

Once they draft ASJ you might be able to see more of that.

He would be so sick in that offense.

[Travis]

Originally Posted by Vince, Pt. II

What players, if any, are you guys losing after this season? 49ers are looking at some tough decisions, as Boldin, Whitner and one of our CBs whose name is escaping me at the moment are all pending FA's. highly unlikely that they can keep all three.

Jumping in on this one, curious to see if Dawg agrees with me or not. Seems likely that Sidney Rice is gone due to his contract. The guy I read who seems pretty plugged in to how this stuff works figures that one of Red Bryant or Mebane is likely let to (assuming Bryant if it is one of those two) and that Clemons is probably done. Those moves hopefully meaning that Avril and Bennett are both back.

Wilson has one more year before he needs to be redone contract wise and sounds like the priority to extend at this point is Thomas and that a Sherman extension will depend on how everything else goes.

A few other smaller pieces (like McQuistan and Giacomini) and they probably add a few guys to the offensive line via draft. So in the long run, they'll need last years draft to contribute more next year and to draft well coming up to replace the depth they're likely to lose. Given how well the D Line worked with the rotation they liked to employ, I'd imagine this is a big priority to replenish.

[dawgfan]

I believe the following guys are free agents:

• Michael Bennett
• Golden Tate
• Tony McDaniel
• Clinton McDonald
• Walter Thurmond
• Steven Hauschka
• Breno Giacomini
• Paul McQuistan
• Michael Robinson

(there are a few more, but those are the most noteworthy)

Also, there will be some push to get extensions for Earl Thomas and possibly Richard Sherman, though they might be better off letting him play on his 2014 deal and then franchising him.

[dawgfan]

Originally Posted by Travis

Jumping in on this one, curious to see if Dawg agrees with me or not. Seems likely that Sidney Rice is gone due to his contract. The guy I read who seems pretty plugged in to how this stuff works figures that one of Red Bryant or Mebane is likely let to (assuming Bryant if it is one of those two) and that Clemons is probably done. Those moves hopefully meaning that Avril and Bennett are both back.

Wilson has one more year before he needs to be redone contract wise and sounds like the priority to extend at this point is Thomas and that a Sherman extension will depend on how everything else goes.

A few other smaller pieces (like McQuistan and Giacomini) and they probably add a few guys to the offensive line via draft. So in the long run, they'll need last years draft to contribute more next year and to draft well coming up to replace the depth they're likely to lose. Given how well the D Line worked with the rotation they liked to employ, I'd imagine this is a big priority to replenish.

Yeah, that all sounds right. Rice is done, and if Tate's demands aren't reasonable, he's probably gone too, which means they'll probably need to draft another WR or two and hope Harvin can stay healthy to join Baldwin and Kearse.

Keeping the DL rotation strong has to be a priority, and I would assume they'll look to add another CB as depth to backfill Browner. It will also be interesting to see what they do at TE - do they keep Miller at his current cost or look to go cheaper?

[Logan]

Everything will be completely manageable until Wilson needs a new deal.

[Travis]

Originally Posted by dawgfan

Yeah, that all sounds right. Rice is done, and if Tate's demands aren't reasonable, he's probably gone too, which means they'll probably need to draft another WR or two and hope Harvin can stay healthy to join Baldwin and Kearse.

Keeping the DL rotation strong has to be a priority, and I would assume they'll look to add another CB as depth to backfill Browner. It will also be interesting to see what they do at TE - do they keep Miller at his current cost or look to go cheaper?

1: What price point would you bring Rice back at? Following him on twitter, I wonder if he'd be the type willing to come back at a much cheaper price tag (ala Robinson) to be a part of the "family". Given his body type and compete level (plays the position violently both blocking and what he's willing to do for a catch/run after), I can't help but want the guy back at the right price tag.

2: May not have to worry so much about corner if the kid they drafted last year (Simon) can get all the way healthy. Thurmond will be a lot like Tate where demands probably determine if they're back or not but the depth *might* be there.

3: TE is interesting. Willson has a nice high ceiling, but until the offensive line gets shored up, Miller is worth his contract. I'd like to see a full season of him getting to play less of a blocking role, but yeah, forgot about him and that could be an area they look for a big savings at if they like some of the options in the draft.

4: Are we at the point now that Seattle may get a chance at some discount UFAs? I know we saw a potential example last year with Winfield that didn't work out. Avril and Bennett were as much about timing/market as anything else, but maybe we see a few more of those types of pickups the next few years after how this year went?

5: I really want to see at least 3 offensive linemen added. T and G for sure to add to Bowie and Bailey. I can't help but feel like they could upgrade relatively cheaply at LG, RG and RT and solidify the biggest weakness on the team. I hope Carpenter is the backup next year and McQ is long gone. Shouldn't be hard to replace Breno's ability with somebody who'll take 1/3 the penalties too.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

Wondering how UW fans first reacted to Pete Carroll's hiring to the Seahawks? I'm sure how they feel now... but wondering how they felt then.

I was glad he was gone from USC and as someone who isn't a Seahawks fan I was curios to see how he would do.

[dawgfan]

Originally Posted by Travis

4: Are we at the point now that Seattle may get a chance at some discount UFAs? I know we saw a potential example last year with Winfield that didn't work out. Avril and Bennett were as much about timing/market as anything else, but maybe we see a few more of those types of pickups the next few years after how this year went?

Yeah, I think that could happen - guys that look at Seattle as a way to A) win and B) play a cheap one-year deal to try to parlay it into a bigger deal.

5: I really want to see at least 3 offensive linemen added. T and G for sure to add to Bowie and Bailey. I can't help but feel like they could upgrade relatively cheaply at LG, RG and RT and solidify the biggest weakness on the team. I hope Carpenter is the backup next year and McQ is long gone. Shouldn't be hard to replace Breno's ability with somebody who'll take 1/3 the penalties too.

It's actually kind of amazing to me that the Seahawks were as good as they were this year with this OL. It has to be a priority IMO, both through the draft and through free agency.

[Bigsmooth]

Holy crap...good times!

[path12]

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

Wondering how UW fans first reacted to Pete Carroll's hiring to the Seahawks? I'm sure how they feel now... but wondering how they felt then.

I hated it, and I was so so wrong. He won me over last year.

So happy today.

[Eaglesfan27]

As a Pete Carroll fan, I was rooting for them. Congrats to all of the Seahawks fans.

[RomaGoth]

Congrats Seahawks and fans. Nice to finally have a pro championship here in the Pacific NW...

[RomaGoth]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Really happy for all my Seattle friends. Having lived there for 5 years most of them are great fans who supported the team through good and bad times. And was really excited to see a Husky score an amazing TD in the Superbowl. I think Kearse is really developing into a weapon. He has had some amazing grabs this year.

Just noticed you aren't in Seattle anymore. When did you move?

[miked]

Wouldn't Sherman hold out this year? He is making next to nothing and just has this next season left. What is there to risk injury for?

[Vince, Pt. II]

His image? He backpedaled better than Deion from the backlash after his outburst after the NFC Championship game.

[ColtCrazy]

Hated it for Peyton Manning…one of the greats and just making 3 SBs is a helluva accomplishment. That said, Seattle deserves a championship. Great team.

Plus, at least the Colts can say they beat the SB champ.

[chesapeake]

Originally Posted by miked

Wouldn't Sherman hold out this year? He is making next to nothing and just has this next season left. What is there to risk injury for?

I think this is a great question, and you know he is smart enough to understand the business side of things. Assuming his ankle injury isn't anything serious, he will never have more value than he does right now, and CB isn't a position where a lot of guys can last forever. Look at what happened to Champ Bailey last night. If I were Sherman's agent, I would urge him to do it. And the sooner he gets a longterm deal in place, the better the chance he is still at the top of his game when it comes time to negotiate the next deal.

[stevew]

Originally Posted by miked

Wouldn't Sherman hold out this year? He is making next to nothing and just has this next season left. What is there to risk injury for?

He probably faces significant fines for doing so(I believe 30k/day). If they wanna hold the line, they can force him to play for 800ish k next year and then franchise him the following year. My guess is they'd end up losing the locker room with such a tactic.

[stevew]

Wilson played about as flawlessly as you could hope for. He's way more than just a game manager. As someone who is a bit of a numbers junkie. I thought it was cool that Seattle's top 2 receivers had both worn #15. I really think they need to retain Tate or Bennett via the franchise tag. Maybe the other WR step up for Tate, but he's really good. Dropping down to just Kearse and Baldwin would be dangerous due to Harvin's issues.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by RomaGoth

Just noticed you aren't in Seattle anymore. When did you move?

December 2012. Moved back to Cinci for my wifes job. There are a lot of things I miss about the PNW and some I don't.

[RomaGoth]

Originally Posted by stevew

Wilson played about as flawlessly as you could hope for. He's way more than just a game manager. As someone who is a bit of a numbers junkie. I thought it was cool that Seattle's top 2 receivers had both worn #15. I really think they need to retain Tate or Bennett via the franchise tag. Maybe the other WR step up for Tate, but he's really good. Dropping down to just Kearse and Baldwin would be dangerous due to Harvin's issues.

I see Wilson as a very good game manager with a chance to develop a little further than that even. He makes great decisions, doesn't turn the ball over, and makes plays with his feet. However, he doesn't have the size in the pocket to be a drop-back passer, nor would I want him to do that in any case. He doesn't come off to me as a guy who will throw for 300-400 yards a game and shred a defense. He needs a decent running game and playmaking receivers.

With that being said, I would take him over my team's QB in a second. And that isn't just because he won the super bowl and still makes league minimum. Wilson is a good player with a chance to be great.

[RomaGoth]

Originally Posted by Lathum

December 2012. Moved back to Cinci for my wifes job. There are a lot of things I miss about the PNW and some I don't.

Not a big fan of Ohio, but I grew up in Michigan so...

[Bigsmooth]

Good article that kind of dispels the myth that Wilson is simply a "game manager":

Game manager: Russell Wilson has been stamped with a label most quarterbacks resent, but what kind of player is he really? - SBNation.com

If nothing else, take a look at the gifs. He has some pretty serious arm talent but he will never be fully unleashed under Carroll since that is not the way Pete wants to win games. Seems like a lot of analysts are missing the boat about the Seattle passing game. They value efficiency above all else and putting up big numbers in the passing game isn't a priority.

[Vince, Pt. II]

Originally Posted by RomaGoth

...he doesn't have the size in the pocket to be a drop-back passer...

Drew Brees?

[RomaGoth]

Originally Posted by Vince, Pt. II

Drew Brees?

Drew Brees is at least an inch taller than Wilson, but far less mobile. They are different types of QB's, at least imo.

[Vince, Pt. II]

I'll admit, I've never looked up to compare their height. Everyone in the world comparing the two because they're both short is what made me question.

[Travis]

The problem with Wilson being a pocket passer has been the lack of a consistent pocket. He's just fine in that situation, but the offensive line has been so porous that they haven't been able to rely on that sort of approach. I think a lot of people are going to be very surprised by this offense if they can fix the line this offseason.

[stevew]

Just heard for the second time some variation of "I'm glad Seattle won so that nobody got closer to the Steelers 6 titles.". I need to move.

[stevew]

I would wager that Wilson has longer arms than Brees. 1" in height really is irrelevant. Wilson has to be accounted for on the scramble because he makes excellent rushing decisions. I feel like the median for his runs has gotta be like 10+ yards(or at least of "first down length). He also avoids several sacks per game with his escapability.

[Matthean]

Doug Baldwin Rips Cris Carter for Comments About Seahawks WRs | Bleacher Report

That dude who said that we were appetizers, he told me to Google him, and I did Google him, but I didn't see any Super Bowl appearances, and I also saw two losses in conference championships. I have a Super Bowl ring, and I would gladly show that to him. And if he doesn't have time to come see it, tell him he can Google it.

[dawgfan]

Originally Posted by stevew

Wilson played about as flawlessly as you could hope for. He's way more than just a game manager. As someone who is a bit of a numbers junkie. I thought it was cool that Seattle's top 2 receivers had both worn #15. I really think they need to retain Tate or Bennett via the franchise tag. Maybe the other WR step up for Tate, but he's really good. Dropping down to just Kearse and Baldwin would be dangerous due to Harvin's issues.

Tate really stepped up this year, but they need to be smart about their finances. If Tate asks for too much, I think Baldwin and Kearse are good enough to be the main two with Lockette as depth and Harvin the wild card, plus they can always supplement again in the next draft and free agency.