WW LXXXI Highlander game thread ( D5 deadline 8:00 PM EST) - Page 6

path12 · 09-10-2008, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mustang

Kind of what I was starting to wonder. Not sure of the non wolf kill.

Either -

A. A name wasn't submitted
B. Wolfs can't kill when engaged in a duel
C. Ramirez blocked it
D. Wolfs can only kill when in the same city as their intended victim

Hmm. OK, A might be the option if Mrs. S was the lead wolf and was the only one who could order the kill. Sounds awkward though.

B -- I just don't understand what you're getting at here. Seems to me if a wolf was going to make a kill they would be exempt from a duel that night rather than the opposite. But I'm fuzzy on how the duels are determined anyway.

C -- Lathum pretty much ruled that one out.

D -- Possible. If that's the case we're in good shape the further along the game goes depending on how many wolves there are. But can you imagine how much the game could drag out towards the end if you've got say 1 wolf and two villagers and they're all bouncing to different cities every turn? Could make a month long game!

jeheinz72 · 09-10-2008, 12:02 PM

Anyone have any thoughts on my idea of setting up the locations?

path12 · 09-10-2008, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jeheinz72

I'd also add E. There is some sort of cap on kills per night

Frankly that was my thought going into the night, that there has to be some sort of preventative measure against something like 5 villager deaths in the same night.

This makes more sense to me. These duels are a weird dynamic. I'm hoping things clear up as we go along.

DaddyTorgo · 09-10-2008, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jeheinz72

It happens Mrs. S, I hope your daughter is feeling better!

+1

real-life has to take priority over WW sometimes, I think we all understand that.

Mustang · 09-10-2008, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

B -- I just don't understand what you're getting at here. Seems to me if a wolf was going to make a kill they would be exempt from a duel that night rather than the opposite. But I'm fuzzy on how the duels are determined anyway.

Just a way to avoid too many deaths. Wolf wins a duel and does a kill seems a little lopsided to me.

I'd buy the opposite too.. I'm unsure of the duel mechanic also

PackerFanatic · 09-10-2008, 12:07 PM

I am going to let things play out this afternoon a little before placing a vote. I am looking at two people in particular based on what has perspired up to this point and I am hoping that I can narrow it down a little.

jeheinz72 · 09-10-2008, 12:33 PM

Well, I'm of the ilk that someone had to have at least tried to save Mrs. S. Obviously Narc wasn't that person. I don't think Saldana is (he's better than that). I'll vote here instead

Vote Claphamsa

ntndeacon · 09-10-2008, 12:42 PM

I wonder whether if there are more than two in a city if there would be no duel. I have a feeling there were several folks in Boston last night.

Alan T · 09-10-2008, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ntndeacon

I wonder whether if there are more than two in a city if there would be no duel. I have a feeling there were several folks in Boston last night.

I was in Boston and I felt the presence of others there as well last night. So just being in the same city as someone else doesn't seem to trigger the duel.

claphamsa · 09-10-2008, 12:51 PM

I felt a presence.. in Miami, but didn't fight.. thank god! woulda lost all my points. now that i do in fact understand whats going on.....

path12 · 09-10-2008, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

I am looking at two people in particular based on what has perspired up to this point.

OK, sweatiest people step forward now!

path12 · 09-10-2008, 12:56 PM

I didn't get a sense of anyone else around in Seattle.

claphamsa · 09-10-2008, 01:05 PM

well yeah... Seattle?

Barkeep49 · 09-10-2008, 01:06 PM

My guess is that dueling depends on the weather (the rainier the higher the chance of a duel) and the presence of two people in a city.

PackerFanatic · 09-10-2008, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

OK, sweatiest people step forward now!

It sounded funny when I said it in my head too, but I still stand that it was the word I was looking for, lol.

DaddyTorgo · 09-10-2008, 01:29 PM

PF - transpired maybe what you meant??

Alan+whoever else - I was in Boston last night too. Sensed others but obviously no duel.

DaddyTorgo · 09-10-2008, 01:29 PM

which is prolly good cuz I would have smoked you guys!!

The Jackal · 09-10-2008, 01:33 PM

I was in Philly and nothing remotely interesting happened - including the Phillies game I took in.

Mustang · 09-10-2008, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

My guess is that dueling depends on the weather (the rainier the higher the chance of a duel) and the presence of two people in a city.

Nice catch.

Given that Lathum commented on the 60% chance of rain in Dallas and linking to the weather channel in the opening.

Might want to stick to places with little to no chance of rain unless you are feeling frisky.

claphamsa · 09-10-2008, 01:35 PM

which would be great if we had any ideas....

Alan T · 09-10-2008, 01:39 PM

Maybe duels only happen when there are only 2 highlanders in one town, or an even number or something. Since there were 3+ in Boston last night, no duel?

PackerFanatic · 09-10-2008, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

PF - transpired maybe what you meant??

Alan+whoever else - I was in Boston last night too. Sensed others but obviously no duel.

I think that might be more likely. It's been a long day at work, lol.

PackerFanatic · 09-10-2008, 01:44 PM

Good call on the weather too.

And for continuity's sake, I was in Vegas again, this time throwing some money down on Aaron Rodger's becoming the NFL MVP

illinifan999 · 09-10-2008, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

I felt a presence.. in Miami, but didn't fight.. thank god! woulda lost all my points. now that i do in fact understand whats going on.....

That would be me. A vision of another duel, distracted me or something like that.

DaddyTorgo · 09-10-2008, 02:18 PM

VOTE ILLINIFAN999

saldana · 09-10-2008, 02:20 PM

only problem with the weather theory is that there is no mention of rain in my duel with telle.

saldana · 09-10-2008, 02:21 PM

dola, perhaps it is the other way around...no rain = duel, thats why the rain in dallas was a surprise.

Alan T · 09-10-2008, 02:34 PM

I don't see the weather theory is more likely than the one I threw out.

jeheinz72 · 09-10-2008, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

only problem with the weather theory is that there is no mention of rain in my duel with telle.

It's inherently shitty weather in San Francisco.

*rimshot*

DaddyTorgo · 09-10-2008, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jeheinz72

It's inherently shitty weather in San Francisco.

*rimshot*

lies

jeheinz72 · 09-10-2008, 03:03 PM

I wish I was lying about that (I live in the Bay Area)

Alan T · 09-10-2008, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jeheinz72

It's inherently shitty weather in San Francisco.

*rimshot*

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Originally Posted by jeheinz72

I wish I was lying about that (I live in the Bay Area)

I thought it was some kind of inside joke between you and DT or something.. yeah SF weather is miserable. My in-laws live there. As Mark Twain once said, "The coldest winter he ever spent was a summer in San Francisco"

jeheinz72 · 09-10-2008, 03:21 PM

It's pretty horrific actually *in* the city. Suburbs/San Jose where I am, it's nice. But in the city, it's like a blessed occasion or a heat wave if it tops 75. Ick.

jeheinz72 · 09-10-2008, 03:21 PM

Gotta add though, when hell is frozen over and it does happen to be nice in the city, it's a friggin majestic place to be.

Alan T · 09-10-2008, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Gotta add though, when hell is frozen over and it does happen to be nice in the city, it's a friggin majestic place to be.

Oh it is beautiful in the early afternoon. But around 4:30 when the fog rolls in, it just is gross.

jeheinz72 · 09-10-2008, 03:32 PM

Yeah that about sums it up.

claphamsa · 09-10-2008, 03:39 PM

Just in case i disappear, its cuz im going postal.

KTHXBAI!

PackerFanatic · 09-10-2008, 03:44 PM

VOTE CLAPHAMSA

I think he is more likely than illini and I want to make sure I get a vote in.

jeheinz72 · 09-10-2008, 03:45 PM

Anyone else out there? I split in about an hour-ish and would love to see what people have on their minds.

claphamsa · 09-10-2008, 03:48 PM

Why are people vetoing for me again?

Alan T · 09-10-2008, 03:54 PM

Yeah, I am actually leaving in about 15-20 minutes myself until after deadline most likely. I'm still trying to catch up to the discussion from day 1. Is there anyone that has not checked in, voted or anything yet this game? No wolf action for multiple days perhaps point to no wolf activity for multiple days?

Otherwise the only person that I got a bad feel about earlier was Path based on some comments he made , or how he made them.. but I know he was one of the ones that broke the tie on Mrs.Schmidty yesterday. That could have been a hedged bet that since she didn't show up yet in PM to him either, and was close on the vote race he cut his losses there to gain trust later.. but I think on day 2, its probably better to give him the benefit of the doubt since he was one of 2-3 guys that had important votes on killing off Mrs.Schmidty...

So right now I'm going to try to see if there is anyone else who has yet to be active this game and may just go that way.

Alan T · 09-10-2008, 03:58 PM

Did The Jackal get a vote in yesterday? Looking through people's summarization of the vote counts I don't see where he got one in. I saw night 1 (I think) he mentioned something about trying to get an order in but not getting it in on time, and then yesterday didn't see any vote or comments from him in quick skimming.

I'm thinking I might vote for him if nothing else presents itself before I have to leave. I really should have caught up on day 1 reading today, but it was just too busy at work.. so if something happened during day 1 that explained the jackal's actions or why I'm going down the wrong road here, please someone tell me so.

Alan T · 09-10-2008, 04:01 PM

Ahh, reading back through I see where he posted at 7:30am this morning explaining his no vote.. but more importantly if he was bad he could easily have gotten an order in.. so that shoots holes in that theory.

Grammaticus · 09-10-2008, 04:02 PM

Possibly the weather in New York is key and not the other cities. Also, is it possible that chances of a duel increase if you go to the same place in a city? I got referenced to a baseball game, then last night I was in DC and visited the shopping district. but I got no feeling of anyone else's presence which I did get the prior night in Philly.

jeheinz72 · 09-10-2008, 04:03 PM

Yeah Jackal has been probably the "least" active thus far. But yeah, I think we can't possibly get lucky on that road twice.

claphamsa · 09-10-2008, 04:04 PM

why not?

claphamsa · 09-10-2008, 04:04 PM

its not like your gonna get lucky voting for me randomly!

path12 · 09-10-2008, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by illinifan999

My degree of feeling that he isn't a wolf is that high. I thought Mrs. S was going to by lynched, so I wanted to vote for a 3rd party and see if that would start up some discussion. I got my wish, and it did, unfortunately I started up the discussion on myself.

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Originally Posted by path12

Curious as to why you would have such a feeling about someone on day 1. Could you elaborate?

Illini, I didn't get a response to this. I noticed Narcizo asked the same thing -- what was it about NTN that had you feeling "that high" that he isn't a wolf?

jeheinz72 · 09-10-2008, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

Why are people vetoing for me again?

I'm not vetoing you.

I'm voting for you though. Basically because I think you tried to artificially start crap on me yesterday when I was championing a pretty standard Day One line of thinking, one that actually worked in fact.

Plus I didn't like your vote at all (breaking a 2-2 tie the wrong direction, or at least the supposed wrong direction if we weren't wolf/wolf). In my experience it's around the 2-3 vote level that wolves start to worry about one of their own getting heat.

Grammaticus · 09-10-2008, 04:08 PM

I'm going to vote

vote Illinifan

best I have to go on so far is his jumping in thread right after receiving a vote yesterday. Not much but I have to get in a vote and may not be back before lynch (flying today).

09-10-2008, 12:07 PM	#256
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	I am going to let things play out this afternoon a little before placing a vote. I am looking at two people in particular based on what has perspired up to this point and I am hoping that I can narrow it down a little. __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

09-10-2008, 12:51 PM	#260
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	I felt a presence.. in Miami, but didn't fight.. thank god! woulda lost all my points. now that i do in fact understand whats going on..... __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

09-10-2008, 12:56 PM	#262
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	I didn't get a sense of anyone else around in Seattle. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

09-10-2008, 01:05 PM	#263
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	well yeah... Seattle? __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

09-10-2008, 01:35 PM	#270
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	which would be great if we had any ideas.... __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

09-10-2008, 12:42 PM	#258
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	I wonder whether if there are more than two in a city if there would be no duel. I have a feeling there were several folks in Boston last night.

09-10-2008, 01:06 PM	#264
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	My guess is that dueling depends on the weather (the rainier the higher the chance of a duel) and the presence of two people in a city.

09-10-2008, 01:29 PM	#266
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	PF - transpired maybe what you meant?? Alan+whoever else - I was in Boston last night too. Sensed others but obviously no duel.

09-10-2008, 01:29 PM	#267
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	which is prolly good cuz I would have smoked you guys!!

09-10-2008, 01:33 PM	#268
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	I was in Philly and nothing remotely interesting happened - including the Phillies game I took in.

09-10-2008, 01:39 PM	#271
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Maybe duels only happen when there are only 2 highlanders in one town, or an even number or something. Since there were 3+ in Boston last night, no duel? __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

09-10-2008, 01:44 PM	#273
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	Good call on the weather too. And for continuity's sake, I was in Vegas again, this time throwing some money down on Aaron Rodger's becoming the NFL MVP __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

09-10-2008, 02:18 PM	#275
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	VOTE ILLINIFAN999

09-10-2008, 02:20 PM	#276
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	only problem with the weather theory is that there is no mention of rain in my duel with telle.

09-10-2008, 02:21 PM	#277
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	dola, perhaps it is the other way around...no rain = duel, thats why the rain in dallas was a surprise.

09-10-2008, 02:34 PM	#278
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	I don't see the weather theory is more likely than the one I threw out. __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

09-10-2008, 03:39 PM	#287
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	Just in case i disappear, its cuz im going postal. KTHXBAI! __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

09-10-2008, 03:44 PM	#288
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	VOTE CLAPHAMSA I think he is more likely than illini and I want to make sure I get a vote in. __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

09-10-2008, 03:48 PM	#290
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	Why are people vetoing for me again? __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

09-10-2008, 03:54 PM	#291
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Yeah, I am actually leaving in about 15-20 minutes myself until after deadline most likely. I'm still trying to catch up to the discussion from day 1. Is there anyone that has not checked in, voted or anything yet this game? No wolf action for multiple days perhaps point to no wolf activity for multiple days? Otherwise the only person that I got a bad feel about earlier was Path based on some comments he made , or how he made them.. but I know he was one of the ones that broke the tie on Mrs.Schmidty yesterday. That could have been a hedged bet that since she didn't show up yet in PM to him either, and was close on the vote race he cut his losses there to gain trust later.. but I think on day 2, its probably better to give him the benefit of the doubt since he was one of 2-3 guys that had important votes on killing off Mrs.Schmidty... So right now I'm going to try to see if there is anyone else who has yet to be active this game and may just go that way. __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

09-10-2008, 03:58 PM	#292
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Did The Jackal get a vote in yesterday? Looking through people's summarization of the vote counts I don't see where he got one in. I saw night 1 (I think) he mentioned something about trying to get an order in but not getting it in on time, and then yesterday didn't see any vote or comments from him in quick skimming. I'm thinking I might vote for him if nothing else presents itself before I have to leave. I really should have caught up on day 1 reading today, but it was just too busy at work.. so if something happened during day 1 that explained the jackal's actions or why I'm going down the wrong road here, please someone tell me so. __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

09-10-2008, 04:01 PM	#293
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Ahh, reading back through I see where he posted at 7:30am this morning explaining his no vote.. but more importantly if he was bad he could easily have gotten an order in.. so that shoots holes in that theory. __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

09-10-2008, 04:02 PM	#294
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	Possibly the weather in New York is key and not the other cities. Also, is it possible that chances of a duel increase if you go to the same place in a city? I got referenced to a baseball game, then last night I was in DC and visited the shopping district. but I got no feeling of anyone else's presence which I did get the prior night in Philly.

09-10-2008, 04:04 PM	#296
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	why not? __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

09-10-2008, 04:04 PM	#297
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	its not like your gonna get lucky voting for me randomly! __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

09-10-2008, 04:08 PM	#300
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	I'm going to vote vote Illinifan best I have to go on so far is his jumping in thread right after receiving a vote yesterday. Not much but I have to get in a vote and may not be back before lynch (flying today).

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