Super Bowl XLVI Thread - Giants Vs. Patriots - Page 13

Fidatelo · 02-06-2012, 01:18 PM

When discussing Eli v Peyton, shouldn't it be mentioned that Peyton is also a defacto offensive coordinator? I've never seen another NFL QB handle the pre-snap offense the way Manning does, and it has always been the most amazing/unique trait I feel he possesses.

I've only been an NFL fan since the mid-90's, but to my eyes in that 15-20 years no one has even come close to Peyton in terms of controlling the outcome of his offense. If and when he does retire, I will miss watching all his pointing and shenanigans a whole bunch. To me, Peyton still > Eli.

Rizon · 02-06-2012, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Yeah but Timmy Smith's been driving a bus full of kids every day to school for the past 20 years, for a paycheck. You choose.

East coast or west coast? Cause I ain't drivin kids in the snow.

ISiddiqui · 02-06-2012, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Fidatelo

When discussing Eli v Peyton, shouldn't it be mentioned that Peyton is also a defacto offensive coordinator? I've never seen another NFL QB handle the pre-snap offense the way Manning does, and it has always been the most amazing/unique trait I feel he possesses.

I've only been an NFL fan since the mid-90's, but to my eyes in that 15-20 years no one has even come close to Peyton in terms of controlling the outcome of his offense. If and when he does retire, I will miss watching all his pointing and shenanigans a whole bunch. To me, Peyton still > Eli.

Indeed. Peyton may be one of the most intelligent QB's to have ever played the game.

sterlingice · 02-06-2012, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rizon

East coast or west coast? Cause I ain't drivin kids in the snow.

Uphill? Both ways?

SI

Rizon · 02-06-2012, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

Uphill? Both ways?

SI

Uphill isn't so bad, I guess. I think I'll be Barry, though. Not sure I want to spend 2 years in prison getting cornholed.

sabotai · 02-06-2012, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince, Pt. II

I think there's a great argument that Tuck should have won the Super Bowl MVP.

Of Tuck's 2 sacks, he was the clean up man on both of them. He didn't get the initial pressure. And on the vast majority of Brady's passes, he wasn't pressured at all. I think those who are saying Tuck for MVP are over thinking it and trying to think too much outside of the box. Tuck didn't have a very good game. JPP was the only one on the defense that played well all game, but he didn't have a "jaw dropping performance" either.

DanGarion · 02-06-2012, 02:15 PM

Ok can someone explain to me why the Giants when for 2 at the end of the game? None of the scoring I could calculate would have mattered with 0, 1, or 2. Either way the Giants are up by 4, 5, or 6?

cartman · 02-06-2012, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DanGarion

Ok can someone explain to me why the Giants when for 2 at the end of the game? None of the scoring I could calculate would have mattered with 0, 1, or 2. Either way the Giants are up by 4, 5, or 6?

Only reason would be if they made it, it would leave ever so slightly the door open for OT if the Pats got a TD and missed the XP.

Logan · 02-06-2012, 02:17 PM

Maybe I missed it or it just wasn't shown on the broadcast, but I was surprised Brady didn't do more to argue against the grounding call. Not that it wasn't the right call, but you gotta sell that better...wrong route, airmailing the throw, something. He just put his head down and ran off the field.

DanGarion · 02-06-2012, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

Only reason would be if they made it, it would leave ever so slightly the door open for OT if the Pats got a TD and missed the XP.

Oh shit yeah, forgot about that.

spleen1015 · 02-06-2012, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DanGarion

Ok can someone explain to me why the Giants when for 2 at the end of the game? None of the scoring I could calculate would have mattered with 0, 1, or 2. Either way the Giants are up by 4, 5, or 6?

Because Coughlin wanted to fuck with the people that had 1-7, 2-7, & 3-7 in their Super Bowl Squares pool.

Rizon · 02-06-2012, 03:02 PM

johnnyshaka · 02-06-2012, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan

Maybe I missed it or it just wasn't shown on the broadcast, but I was surprised Brady didn't do more to argue against the grounding call. Not that it wasn't the right call, but you gotta sell that better...wrong route, airmailing the throw, something. He just put his head down and ran off the field.

His wife is the one that runs their mouth in that family...duh.

cartman · 02-06-2012, 03:15 PM

No wonder Joe's numbers tailed off badly the last few seasons of his career. Gotta be hard to grip and throw the ball wearing that many rings.

jbergey22 · 02-06-2012, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

So is Brady clutch or a choker?

Brady is also clutch.

JonInMiddleGA · 02-06-2012, 03:49 PM

Heard an interesting note mentioned on sports radio earlier today, I believe the figures were essentially 9 drives for each team as opposed to the average 12 drives per team in a normal game. The general point was that the limited possessions contributed to the scoring being down a bit.

Terps · 02-06-2012, 04:04 PM

GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG-Men!

cartman · 02-06-2012, 04:10 PM

Women also like Eli more than Brady, because Brady endorses a cologne that smells like date rape.

Women for Eli Manning from Alison Haislip, Avin Das, Andy Maxwell, Pisha Warden, Funny Or Die, Juliet Seniff, BoTown Sound, and Alex Richanbach

(probably not safe for work)

Scoobz0202 · 02-06-2012, 04:15 PM

Weren't people earlier this season questioning Coughlin's job security? A few months later he wins a Super Bowl and now the talk is if he is a lock for the Hall of Fame. Funny the difference a couple of months makes.

Is he now probably a Giant for life until he decides to call it quits?

sabotai · 02-06-2012, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Scoobz0202

Is he now probably a Giant for life until he decides to call it quits?

Don't think there is such a thing for a coach of any New York sports team.

Matthean · 02-06-2012, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Scoobz0202

Weren't people earlier this season questioning Coughlin's job security? A few months later he wins a Super Bowl and now the talk is if he is a lock for the Hall of Fame. Funny the difference a couple of months makes.

Is he now probably a Giant for life until he decides to call it quits?

He's not a lock for the HoF, see Parcells. He has job security due to 2 rings and Eli being his QB.

EagleFan · 02-06-2012, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rizon

Not sure I want to spend 2 years in prison getting cornholed.

Not sure he wants that... I see he's leaving room just in case he decides he does.

JPhillips · 02-06-2012, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Brady is also clutch.

So Manning is clutch because he wasn't but now is and Brady is clutch because he was but now isn't but is anyway?

SteveMax58 · 02-06-2012, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Scoobz0202

Weren't people earlier this season questioning Coughlin's job security? A few months later he wins a Super Bowl and now the talk is if he is a lock for the Hall of Fame. Funny the difference a couple of months makes.

Is he now probably a Giant for life until he decides to call it quits?

I know I was. I was one of those people that insisted the game was too complicated for Coughlin & Fewell (the DC) to keep up with. I am happily eating those words today.

But I think it does go to show that there is a reason people (including me) were so overtly pissed off earlier in the season. The very reason they could run the table on the Falcons, Pack, 49ers, and Pats consecutively is the precise reason that fans found it unacceptable to lose twice to the Redskins...with the last being a real must-win situation in order to control their own fate.

And honestly...its not like Eli was out for 6 weeks when they dropped 5 or 6 games or something. They had no excuses really for some of those games they dropped just as there was no magic return of anybody substantial when they started winning. They simply got smarter on defense and perhaps played harder as well. And that is what Giants fans expected.

Logan · 02-06-2012, 05:07 PM

You also need to remember that there were a lot of changes to the offensive line and it took time for them to get together, and a lot of injuries within the two deep at LB and DB. Those guys weren't great players, but added in with the shortened offseason likely had an effect on early performance.

larrymcg421 · 02-06-2012, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

So Manning is clutch because he wasn't but now is and Brady is clutch because he was but now isn't but is anyway?

What if all 32 starting QB's in the league were clutch?

Rizon · 02-06-2012, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

So Manning is clutch because he wasn't but now is and Brady is clutch because he was but now isn't but is anyway?

Orr was crazy and could be grounded. All he had to do was ask; and as soon as he did, he would no longer be crazy and would have to fly more missions. Orr would be crazy to fly more missions and sane if he didn't, but if he was sane, he had to fly them. If he flew them, he was crazy and didn't have to; but if he didn't want to, he was sane and had to.

jbergey22 · 02-07-2012, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

So Manning is clutch because he wasn't but now is and Brady is clutch because he was but now isn't but is anyway?

Nope, Manning earned the clutch reputation a few years ago. Now he is just living up to it. Brady gets grandfathered in since he earned it at one time

JPhillips · 02-07-2012, 06:22 AM

So if you're clutch once, you're clutch always.

JPhillips · 02-07-2012, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421

What if all 32 starting QB's in the league were clutch?

You just blew my mind.

Ksyrup · 02-07-2012, 06:43 AM

CrimsonFox · 02-07-2012, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421

What if all 32 starting QB's in the league were clutch?

Then they can all hobble off the field on their clutches.

RendeR · 02-07-2012, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Logan

You also need to remember that there were a lot of changes to the offensive line and it took time for them to get together, and a lot of injuries within the two deep at LB and DB. Those guys weren't great players, but added in with the shortened offseason likely had an effect on early performance.

They were 6 and 2 to start the season then dropped 5 of 6. Your logic, and the facts they do not say what you think they say.

EagleFan · 02-07-2012, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by RendeR

They were 6 and 2 to start the season then dropped 5 of 6. Your logic, and the facts they do not say what you think they say.

It took a while for them ro realize they hadn't gotten together. Once they realized that they were able to work on getting it together.

jbergey22 · 02-07-2012, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

So if you're clutch once, you're clutch always.

Sure, if thats what you want.

Kodos · 02-07-2012, 10:50 AM

Tom Brady: "He thinks they are only going to hold us to seventeen points?"

Yep. Twice in a row.

JediKooter · 02-07-2012, 11:07 AM

So, the game was pretty much what I expected it to be until the game winning drive in the 4th quarter...a snooze fest. It was like watching a pre-season game, but, without the change to the 3rd string quarterback in the 2nd quarter. Even the commercials sucked. Good thing it was an east coast team that won the game or there would have been mass suicides at ESPN headquarters.

Now before anyone even tries to bring up, "It was the most watched game in history" argument...it's the Super Bowl, it's pretty much always the most watched game in history.

That being said, congrats to Eli and the Giants. Nice try Patriots, unfortunately your 'do no wrong' receivers caught a case of Braylon Edwarditis.

Ksyrup · 02-07-2012, 11:49 AM

Madonna’s NFL Satanic Ritual disguised in the Half Time Show. « hollywoodilluminatidotcom

Drake · 02-07-2012, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Madonna’s NFL Satanic Ritual disguised in the Half Time Show. « hollywoodilluminatidotcom

That is magnificent.

Coffee Warlord · 02-07-2012, 12:52 PM

That is my new favorite blog.

Ksyrup · 02-07-2012, 01:02 PM

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We see the male dancers doing acrobats for her track “Music”. During this chaos, there were two male dancers that got down on all fours, like the Muslims do when they pray to Allah. Most cheerleading teams, do not actually assume a prostration position when building a pyramid but in Satanic Rituals, it is believed that Lucifer or the devil would assume a prostration position and the witches would line up and kiss his anus as a sign of respect. We not only saw a classic Lucifer Ritual Pose but we also saw the quick building of a pyramid by her dancers.

So, to put this in lyrical form:

On all fours
In your Lucifer Ritual Pose
Tongue held out
Like you've been licking his black rose

JPhillips · 02-07-2012, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

That is my new favorite blog.

Never saw Sarah Palin quite like this:

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Former Gov of Alaska, Sarah Palin, used to get ridiculed by the media for praying to fight off demons, but once she got the nomination to run for VP under John McCain, we can see that someone or something made her change and as a result of her being loyal to Satan, she was awarded with a reality tv show along with her daughter

Coffee Warlord · 02-07-2012, 01:29 PM

Bah. Hillary is FAR more depraved than Palin.

Achieving Satanic Youth through Female Sexual Abuse. Secrets of Hillary Clinton’s Lesbian Blood Rituals. « hollywoodilluminatidotcom

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Hillary Clinton, according to Fritz the author Illuminati Blood lines, does lesbian rituals at a castle in Belgium.

...

At this time, the female animal has an energy that can extend one’s life and give one beauty but to harness this energy the Fallen Angel and even early Jews, had to have sex with the animal pre-teen female and would often keep them as slaves in a room. This is how the Earth Animals, which looked like Big Foots, became hybrid humans.

...

So, what Hillary Clinton is doing when she is at this castle in Belgium is simply a warped version of a ritual that was passed down through the ages.

Ksyrup · 02-07-2012, 01:39 PM

No wonder Hilary took the Secretary of State job so quickly - free trips to Belgium!

DanGarion · 02-07-2012, 01:39 PM

Ok this is no longer the Super Bowl thread. WTF.

spleen1015 · 02-07-2012, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DanGarion

Ok this is no longer the Super Bowl thread. WTF.

Whatever keeps the thread alive!!!

How about a Mila Kunis and an 80s Susanna Huffs mud wrestling match?!

Matthean · 02-07-2012, 01:47 PM

JPhillips · 02-07-2012, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Bah. Hillary is FAR more depraved than Palin.

Achieving Satanic Youth through Female Sexual Abuse. Secrets of Hillary Clinton’s Lesbian Blood Rituals. « hollywoodilluminatidotcom

Bigfoot is a pre-teen lesbian?

MIJB#19 · 02-07-2012, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

Good thing the Giants won!

02-06-2012, 01:18 PM	#601
Fidatelo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB	When discussing Eli v Peyton, shouldn't it be mentioned that Peyton is also a defacto offensive coordinator? I've never seen another NFL QB handle the pre-snap offense the way Manning does, and it has always been the most amazing/unique trait I feel he possesses. I've only been an NFL fan since the mid-90's, but to my eyes in that 15-20 years no one has even come close to Peyton in terms of controlling the outcome of his offense. If and when he does retire, I will miss watching all his pointing and shenanigans a whole bunch. To me, Peyton still > Eli. __________________ "Breakfast? Breakfast schmekfast, look at the score for God's sake. It's only the second period and I'm winning 12-2. Breakfasts come and go, Rene, but Hartford, the Whale, they only beat Vancouver maybe once or twice in a lifetime."

02-06-2012, 02:15 PM	#607
DanGarion Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Great Northwest	Ok can someone explain to me why the Giants when for 2 at the end of the game? None of the scoring I could calculate would have mattered with 0, 1, or 2. Either way the Giants are up by 4, 5, or 6? __________________ Los Angeles Dodgers Check out the FOFC Groups on Facebook! and Reddit! DON'T REPORT ME BRO!

02-06-2012, 03:15 PM	#614
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	No wonder Joe's numbers tailed off badly the last few seasons of his career. Gotta be hard to grip and throw the ball wearing that many rings. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

02-06-2012, 03:49 PM	#616
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Heard an interesting note mentioned on sports radio earlier today, I believe the figures were essentially 9 drives for each team as opposed to the average 12 drives per team in a normal game. The general point was that the limited possessions contributed to the scoring being down a bit. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

02-06-2012, 04:10 PM	#618
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Women also like Eli more than Brady, because Brady endorses a cologne that smells like date rape. Women for Eli Manning from Alison Haislip, Avin Das, Andy Maxwell, Pisha Warden, Funny Or Die, Juliet Seniff, BoTown Sound, and Alex Richanbach (probably not safe for work) __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

02-06-2012, 02:17 PM	#609
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Maybe I missed it or it just wasn't shown on the broadcast, but I was surprised Brady didn't do more to argue against the grounding call. Not that it wasn't the right call, but you gotta sell that better...wrong route, airmailing the throw, something. He just put his head down and ran off the field.

02-06-2012, 04:04 PM	#617
Terps College Prospect Join Date: Jul 2001	GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG-Men!

02-06-2012, 04:15 PM	#619
Scoobz0202 Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dayton, Ohio	Weren't people earlier this season questioning Coughlin's job security? A few months later he wins a Super Bowl and now the talk is if he is a lock for the Hall of Fame. Funny the difference a couple of months makes. Is he now probably a Giant for life until he decides to call it quits?

02-06-2012, 05:07 PM	#625
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	You also need to remember that there were a lot of changes to the offensive line and it took time for them to get together, and a lot of injuries within the two deep at LB and DB. Those guys weren't great players, but added in with the shortened offseason likely had an effect on early performance.

02-07-2012, 06:22 AM	#629
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	So if you're clutch once, you're clutch always. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

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Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	__________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

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02-07-2012, 11:07 AM	#637
JediKooter Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: San Diego via Sausalito via San Jose via San Diego	So, the game was pretty much what I expected it to be until the game winning drive in the 4th quarter...a snooze fest. It was like watching a pre-season game, but, without the change to the 3rd string quarterback in the 2nd quarter. Even the commercials sucked. Good thing it was an east coast team that won the game or there would have been mass suicides at ESPN headquarters. Now before anyone even tries to bring up, "It was the most watched game in history" argument...it's the Super Bowl, it's pretty much always the most watched game in history. That being said, congrats to Eli and the Giants. Nice try Patriots, unfortunately your 'do no wrong' receivers caught a case of Braylon Edwarditis. __________________ I'm no longer a Chargers fan, they are dead to me Coming this summer to a movie theater near you: The Adventures of Jedikooter: Part 4

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Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Madonna’s NFL Satanic Ritual disguised in the Half Time Show. « hollywoodilluminatidotcom __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

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Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	That is my new favorite blog.

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Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	No wonder Hilary took the Secretary of State job so quickly - free trips to Belgium! __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

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