Small Game - Vanilla WW (Village Wins)

EagleFan · 08-02-2009, 06:24 PM

Looking back to do the history thread I see the small games are not given numbers. Because of that I will do a quick basic small game for a maximum of 8 players.

The rules are very generic WW. No backstory other than you are trapped in a room and can only get out when either the wolves win (1:1) and only they get out or the village wins by eliminating the wolves.

Village Roles:
Seer - you can scan someone to find out their allegiance once a night

BG - you may protect someone at night (you will not learn the identity of the attacker upon successful block), you may not protect the same person on back to back nights

Wolf Roles:
Brutal - when/if you get lynched you take a villager with you

Day Deadline: 9 PM EST

Night Deadline: 10 PM EST

EagleFan · 08-02-2009, 06:25 PM

Signups:

1. PurdueBrad - seer (day/night 2 "duke")
2. Danny - villager (killed night three)
3. claphamsa - brutal wolf
4. J23
5. nfg22 - villager (killed night one)
6. KWhit - wolf (lynched day one)
7. JetsIn06 - villager (lynched day three)
8. Lathum

PurdueBrad · 08-02-2009, 07:37 PM

I'll play, for sure. And you can't even vote me on D1 EF, perfect!

Danny · 08-02-2009, 07:54 PM

Sure, I can play too though if someone who is new or hasn't played in a while wants my spot, feel free to give it to them.

EagleFan · 08-02-2009, 08:05 PM

New rule, mandatory PB vote day one....

claphamsa · 08-02-2009, 08:42 PM

sinmple? I R IN

J23 · 08-02-2009, 09:56 PM

I'll join in if you don't mind that it would be my first game.

All I need to know is to vote for PurdueBrad on day one, right?

Lathum · 08-02-2009, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J23

I'll join in if you don't mind that it would be my first game.

All I need to know is to vote for PurdueBrad on day one, right?

do you know him from another board?

J23 · 08-02-2009, 10:25 PM

Nope, just folloing EagleFan's late addition to the rules!

EagleFan · 08-02-2009, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J23

Nope, just folloing EagleFan's late addition to the rules!

I like this guy.

Now if he could teach my wife to listen that easily....

Just to clarify since this is a message board and sarcasm doesn't always translate. No need to vote for PB, he just has some odd paranoia that I actually vote for him every day one. Not sure where he gets that from...

EagleFan · 08-02-2009, 11:42 PM

On another note, welcome J23. New players are always a good thing.

Danny · 08-03-2009, 12:24 AM

Welcome J23! A bulls fan I assume.

J23 · 08-03-2009, 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

Welcome J23! A bulls fan I assume.

Yes, but not where my handle came from actually.

Danny · 08-03-2009, 12:49 AM

Ah, so where did the handle come from them if you don't my curiosity?

J23 · 08-03-2009, 01:17 AM

Nothing to do with sports, and nothing particualarly interesting.

DaddyTorgo · 08-03-2009, 09:08 AM

is a cunning unbalancing in a game this small?

EagleFan · 08-03-2009, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

is a cunning unbalancing in a game this small?

Wasn't sure about that one to be honest. If the thought is that it will unbalance the game I can remove the cunning.

DaddyTorgo · 08-03-2009, 01:03 PM

i'm just raising the issue - not sure if it does or doesn't.

still debating if i have the time to play too

nfg22 · 08-03-2009, 02:36 PM

I guess ill join...

KWhit · 08-03-2009, 03:10 PM

I'll play.

Danny · 08-03-2009, 06:20 PM

EF, I was actually going to send a PM, I definitely think having a cunning wolf, with only 8 players is a bit much. It'll be a challenge for the village as it is, without the wolf roles.

EagleFan · 08-03-2009, 07:14 PM

Does a seer and BG tip the scales toward the village if there is no cunning?

Danny · 08-03-2009, 07:24 PM

I don't think so with 8 players. Two bad lynches and kills and the wolves win. Usually two wolves have 10-11 players, so having the two roles in there is fine since there is only 8 players.

JetsIn06 · 08-03-2009, 07:25 PM

In if there is room.

Lathum · 08-03-2009, 08:20 PM

I'll play if you wanna get this thing started

EagleFan · 08-03-2009, 08:29 PM

Going to send out the roles shortly and it will be game on.

EagleFan · 08-03-2009, 08:43 PM

Game on. Day one deadline is 9 PM EST Tuesday. Night one 10 PM EST Tuesday.

For the record, the vanilla villagers received the following PM:

You are a vanilla villager.

For lynch votes please bold the vote and seperate it from the rest of the post, if it includes more than just a vote.

No major background to the game. You're trapped in a room. Last night you woke up and found EagleFan mauled horribly. At least one of you is a werewolf and you aren't getting out until you rid yourselves of him/them.

PurdueBrad · 08-03-2009, 08:48 PM

Checking in and, although I'm a good guy, I definitely don't hate the fact that EF got mauled by something.

Danny · 08-03-2009, 08:48 PM

First deadline tomorrow night right?

PurdueBrad · 08-03-2009, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

First deadline tomorrow night right?

Yeah, 9 pm EST.

EagleFan · 08-03-2009, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Checking in and, although I'm a good guy, I definitely don't hate the fact that EF got mauled by something.

EagleFan · 08-03-2009, 08:57 PM

Jumping on WoW for a bit. Will check back to see if there are any questions for me after a while.

Lathum · 08-03-2009, 09:01 PM

checking in.

I wont be around for the Wed deadline if I am still alive.

claphamsa · 08-03-2009, 09:02 PM

hmmm, I think the mods have collectively decided im too likely to get lynched day 1 to ever make a wolf

villegar here!

KWhit · 08-03-2009, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Checking in and, although I'm a good guy, I definitely don't hate the fact that EF got mauled by something.

Wow. That sounds wolfish.

Oh wait. Eaglefan got mauled? Yeah, I agree.

Danny · 08-03-2009, 09:05 PM

Regarding strategy, since we are in such a small game and there are only two wolves, the seer should reveal after day 1 if they can clear someone or find a wolf. That guarantees another scan as the BG can protect them.

For example right now we are 6-2. If we miss on the first day which we likely will that puts us at 4-2. If the seer reveals, clears someone that puts us with a 50% of finding a wolf and not losing the game on day 2. If the BG or Seer are up for a lynch, don't wait too long to reveal, especially the BG who can protect themselves night 1 and then shift to protecting the seer night 2 after he reveals.

claphamsa · 08-03-2009, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

Regarding strategy, since we are in such a small game and there are only two wolves, the seer should reveal after day 1 if they can clear someone or find a wolf. That guarantees another scan as the BG can protect them.

For example right now we are 6-2. If we miss on the first day which we likely will that puts us at 4-2. If the seer reveals, clears someone that puts us with a 50% of finding a wolf and not losing the game on day 2. If the BG or Seer are up for a lynch, don't wait too long to reveal, especially the BG who can protect themselves night 1 and then shift to protecting the seer night 2 after he reveals.

this stuck me as odd... but the math adds up! wow to small games!

Lathum · 08-03-2009, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

Regarding strategy, since we are in such a small game and there are only two wolves, the seer should reveal after day 1 if they can clear someone or find a wolf. That guarantees another scan as the BG can protect them.

For example right now we are 6-2. If we miss on the first day which we likely will that puts us at 4-2. If the seer reveals, clears someone that puts us with a 50% of finding a wolf and not losing the game on day 2. If the BG or Seer are up for a lynch, don't wait too long to reveal, especially the BG who can protect themselves night 1 and then shift to protecting the seer night 2 after he reveals.

you assume the BG will automaticaly protect themselves N1

claphamsa · 08-03-2009, 09:46 PM

im going to bed!!

J23 · 08-03-2009, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

you assume the BG will automaticaly protect themselves N1

Wouldn't that be the best choice given the lack of information so early in the game?

Lathum · 08-03-2009, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J23

Wouldn't that be the best choice given the lack of information so early in the game?

not always. I know when I am the BG there are times I don't self protect night 1 so if I need to reveal day 2 I keep the wolves guessing.

Danny · 08-03-2009, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

not always. I know when I am the BG there are times I don't self protect night 1 so if I need to reveal day 2 I keep the wolves guessing.

I think provided that the seer is not revealed that the BG protecting themselves night 1 makes by far the most sense. That way the seer can reveal after night 1 and be assured of getting one more scan in.

Danny · 08-03-2009, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

not always. I know when I am the BG there are times I don't self protect night 1 so if I need to reveal day 2 I keep the wolves guessing.

In bigger games, it can depend of course. But I think in this small game the BG protecting himself is a good choice.

Lathum · 08-03-2009, 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

I think provided that the seer is not revealed that the BG protecting themselves night 1 makes by far the most sense. That way the seer can reveal after night 1 and be assured of getting one more scan in.

yeah, but as long as the BG didnt protect the seer night 1 they still can protect them, plus, the wolves would never know anyway.

I'm just saying it isn't so cut and dry.

nfg22 · 08-04-2009, 12:25 AM

Checking in as a VV...

JetsIn06 · 08-04-2009, 02:03 AM

Checking in.

jeheinz72 · 08-04-2009, 09:43 AM

FYI gents, clap wanted me to let you guys know he's having technical issues today.

Have a good game!

PurdueBrad · 08-04-2009, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

FYI gents, clap wanted me to let you guys know he's having technical issues today.

Have a good game!

Clap is his own technical issue. If you talk to him, ask him if he's asked out that girl from the Metro yet. If he hasn't, then I may have to vote him.

EagleFan · 08-04-2009, 09:55 AM

FYI: Today is my 15th anniversay so I will be out for dinner with the wife and kids tonight. I will be able to be online for the deadlines and maybe some throughout the night but not constant.

Alan T · 08-04-2009, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan

FYI: Today is my 15th anniversay so I will be out for dinner with the wife and kids tonight. I will be able to be online for the deadlines and maybe some throughout the night but not constant.

Happy Anniversary!

08-02-2009, 06:25 PM	#2
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Signups: 1. PurdueBrad - seer (day/night 2 "duke") 2. Danny - villager (killed night three) 3. claphamsa - brutal wolf 4. J23 5. nfg22 - villager (killed night one) 6. KWhit - wolf (lynched day one) 7. JetsIn06 - villager (lynched day three) 8. Lathum Last edited by EagleFan : 08-08-2009 at 02:09 AM.

08-02-2009, 08:42 PM	#6
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	sinmple? I R IN __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

08-03-2009, 09:08 AM	#16
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	is a cunning unbalancing in a game this small? __________________ Get bent whoever hacked my pw and changed my signature.

08-03-2009, 01:03 PM	#18
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	i'm just raising the issue - not sure if it does or doesn't. still debating if i have the time to play too __________________ Get bent whoever hacked my pw and changed my signature.

08-03-2009, 09:02 PM	#34
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	hmmm, I think the mods have collectively decided im too likely to get lynched day 1 to ever make a wolf villegar here! __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

08-02-2009, 07:37 PM	#3
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	I'll play, for sure. And you can't even vote me on D1 EF, perfect!

08-02-2009, 07:54 PM	#4
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Sure, I can play too though if someone who is new or hasn't played in a while wants my spot, feel free to give it to them.

08-02-2009, 08:05 PM	#5
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	New rule, mandatory PB vote day one....

08-02-2009, 09:56 PM	#7
J23 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jul 2009	I'll join in if you don't mind that it would be my first game. All I need to know is to vote for PurdueBrad on day one, right?

08-02-2009, 10:25 PM	#9
J23 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jul 2009	Nope, just folloing EagleFan's late addition to the rules!

08-02-2009, 11:42 PM	#11
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	On another note, welcome J23. New players are always a good thing.

08-03-2009, 12:24 AM	#12
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Welcome J23! A bulls fan I assume.

08-03-2009, 12:49 AM	#14
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Ah, so where did the handle come from them if you don't my curiosity?

08-03-2009, 01:17 AM	#15
J23 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jul 2009	Nothing to do with sports, and nothing particualarly interesting.

08-03-2009, 02:36 PM	#19
nfg22 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2004	I guess ill join...

08-03-2009, 03:10 PM	#20
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	I'll play.

08-03-2009, 06:20 PM	#21
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	EF, I was actually going to send a PM, I definitely think having a cunning wolf, with only 8 players is a bit much. It'll be a challenge for the village as it is, without the wolf roles.

08-03-2009, 07:14 PM	#22
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Does a seer and BG tip the scales toward the village if there is no cunning?

08-03-2009, 07:24 PM	#23
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I don't think so with 8 players. Two bad lynches and kills and the wolves win. Usually two wolves have 10-11 players, so having the two roles in there is fine since there is only 8 players.

08-03-2009, 07:25 PM	#24
JetsIn06 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Rahway, NJ	In if there is room.

08-03-2009, 08:20 PM	#25
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I'll play if you wanna get this thing started

08-03-2009, 08:29 PM	#26
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Going to send out the roles shortly and it will be game on.

08-03-2009, 08:43 PM	#27
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Game on. Day one deadline is 9 PM EST Tuesday. Night one 10 PM EST Tuesday. For the record, the vanilla villagers received the following PM: You are a vanilla villager. For lynch votes please bold the vote and seperate it from the rest of the post, if it includes more than just a vote. No major background to the game. You're trapped in a room. Last night you woke up and found EagleFan mauled horribly. At least one of you is a werewolf and you aren't getting out until you rid yourselves of him/them.

08-03-2009, 08:48 PM	#28
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Checking in and, although I'm a good guy, I definitely don't hate the fact that EF got mauled by something.

08-03-2009, 08:57 PM	#32
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Jumping on WoW for a bit. Will check back to see if there are any questions for me after a while.

08-03-2009, 09:01 PM	#33
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	checking in. I wont be around for the Wed deadline if I am still alive.

08-03-2009, 09:05 PM	#36
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Regarding strategy, since we are in such a small game and there are only two wolves, the seer should reveal after day 1 if they can clear someone or find a wolf. That guarantees another scan as the BG can protect them. For example right now we are 6-2. If we miss on the first day which we likely will that puts us at 4-2. If the seer reveals, clears someone that puts us with a 50% of finding a wolf and not losing the game on day 2. If the BG or Seer are up for a lynch, don't wait too long to reveal, especially the BG who can protect themselves night 1 and then shift to protecting the seer night 2 after he reveals.

08-03-2009, 09:46 PM	#39
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	im going to bed!! __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

08-04-2009, 12:25 AM	#45
nfg22 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2004	Checking in as a VV...

08-04-2009, 02:03 AM	#46
JetsIn06 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Rahway, NJ	Checking in.

08-04-2009, 09:55 AM	#49
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	FYI: Today is my 15th anniversay so I will be out for dinner with the wife and kids tonight. I will be able to be online for the deadlines and maybe some throughout the night but not constant.

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