FOFC's Favorite Rock Act - Round 1 Group I

BYU 14 · 07-09-2017, 08:40 AM

No upsets in group H, which also gives us our second shutout of the tournament. This group involves several "oldies" and a very interesting matchup between Paul Simon and Billy Idol.

Most votes one act	Most votes both acts	Fewest votes winner	Most votes loser
68 - Guns n' Roses - 1st rd	74 - Chuck Berry vs J Geils Band - 1st rd	23 - Jeff Buckley - Play in rd	33 - Eric Burdon & The Animals - 1st rd
66 - Neil Young - 1st rd	74 - Neil Young vs Artic Monkeys - 1st rd	23 - Counting Crows - Play in rd	29 - Phil Collins - 1st rd
64 - The Doors - 1st rd	73 - Rush vs Golden Earring - 1st rd	24 - Sammy Hagar - Play in rd	28 - Three acts tied - 1st rd
64 - Queen - 1st rd
Largest margin of victory	Smallest margin of victory	Biggest upset	Largest Shutout
64 - Guns n' Roses vs Slipknot (68-4) - 1st rd	1 - Elvis Costello vs STP (29-28) 1st rd	185/96 - No Doubt over Eric Burdon - 1st rd	Chicago 63 - Arcana 0 - 1st rd
64 - Queen vs Counting Crows (67-3) 1st rd	3 - The Pretenders vs The Smiths (30-27) 1st rd	149/69 - Crosby, Stills & Nash over Alice Cooper	The Kinks 63 - Free 0 - 1st rd
63 - Chicago vs Arcana (63-0) - 1st rd	3 - Steppenwolf vs The Offspring (31-28) 1st rd	140/109 - Elvis Costello over STP - 1st rd
63 - The Kinka vs Free (63-0) - 1st rd	3 - REO Speedwagon vs Santana (30-27) 1st rd

albionmoonlight · 07-09-2017, 11:30 AM

I spent way more time on Janis Joplin v. The Monkees than I should have.

JonInMiddleGA · 07-09-2017, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

I spent way more time on Janis Joplin v. The Monkees than I should have.

I almost did that ... then realized I had no desire to vote for either.

BYU 14 · 07-09-2017, 12:48 PM

Damn, Janis and the Monkees is looking like a Dog fight.

cartman · 07-09-2017, 01:10 PM

One of my favorite albums:

Buccaneer · 07-09-2017, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BYU 14

Damn, Janis and the Monkees is looking like a Dog fight.

As it should be. Monkees one of the most underrated acts, sold more albums in 1967 than anyone else.

CrimsonFox · 07-09-2017, 02:38 PM

Indeed. The Monkees wee at the forefront of breaking free of their corporate claptrap. So rock and roll that Mike put his fist through a wall and shouting "That could have been your f***ing head!" to get out of their contract and be their own band.

They were completely influential in psychadelic music as well as ROckabilly.

And micky has a ton of cred as a singer.

CrimsonFox · 07-09-2017, 02:45 PM

First appearance of the Moog Synthesizer too

Grammaticus · 07-09-2017, 03:00 PM

Not sure how Cher or even Paul Simon qualify as rock acts. Lame

CrimsonFox · 07-09-2017, 03:03 PM

Had plenty of rocky tunes

CrimsonFox · 07-09-2017, 03:04 PM

cher I dunno. Only solo cher I've heard was that autotuned pop stuff in the 80s and 90s. I assume this isn't SONNY & Cher

CrimsonFox · 07-09-2017, 03:09 PM

Love this letterman appearance:

thesloppy · 07-09-2017, 03:36 PM

Cher had some solo hits in the '60s and '70s that I'm still familiar with, "Bang Bang", a cover of "All I Really Wanna Do", "Alfie", "Gypsies, Tramps & Thieves", "Half-Breed" and "Dark Lady".....whether any of that qualifies as 'rock' certainly seems debatable.

Scarecrow · 07-09-2017, 04:59 PM

Damn, Asia with a brutal 1st round. Not sure they should be 'ranked' 254...

CarterNMA · 07-09-2017, 05:10 PM

Good to be getting back to rounds where I have opinions.

I really loved Asia a lot as a teenager. Their first record was the first vinyl album I ever bought.

Liked AC/DC as a teenager but as an adult I recognize that they are very limited in their sound. A coworker's six-year-old even pointed that out.

Regarding the Monkees, don't forget Michael Nesmith's influence on early music videos.

R.E.M. was also another favorite of my youth. Until about '89 or so then I started losing interest.

Prince v. Meatloaf was a difficult one and I wish I could change my Meatloaf pick to Prince.

U2...my most hated band of all-time. F Bono, F The Edge, F these self-righteous pricks right in the ear hole. Their stuff before 1984 was good but since then...crap.

CrimsonFox · 07-09-2017, 05:18 PM

yes nesmith pretty much invented MTV

CrimsonFox · 07-09-2017, 05:21 PM

AHAHAHAHA about u2. Yeah I like some of their song but agree on the selfrighteous image.

i like meatloaf's bat out of hell but prince...i cannot vote against his royal badness.

acdc meh. I do like asia.

ELP is the real goods

oh yeah cher stuff. gypsy is a good song. santana is a rock god but korn has some really good stuff

never did care for janis joplin. one hit wonder that she didn't even write. gogo alcoholic...

Groundhog · 07-09-2017, 05:45 PM

ELP had a few nice moments (Take a Pebble in particular), but IMO at least they exemplified the worst aspects of prog rock.

No idea who Stray Cats are, but can't bring myself to vote for U2.

CrimsonFox · 07-09-2017, 05:49 PM

50's throwback in the 80s.

Vince, Pt. II · 07-09-2017, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

never did care for janis joplin. one hit wonder that she didn't even write. gogo alcoholic...

Seriously?

CrimsonFox · 07-09-2017, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Groundhog

ELP had a few nice moments (Take a Pebble in particular), but IMO at least they exemplified the worst aspects of prog rock.

I think that was more King Crimson

Greg Lake was always solid to me...

sad both he and Emerson died this past year

Groundhog · 07-09-2017, 06:09 PM

From the Beginning and Take a Pebble are easily my 2 favourites. I would struggle to find a third to be honest, having heard all their albums from their peak period - s/t debut through Brain Salad Surgery. The circumstances around Emerson's death were bloody tragic though.

I was never a fan of the improv King Crimson stuff, but I rank them miles ahead of ELP. Red is a classic, but their first album is probably my favourite. Atmospheric proto-prog, and very understated compared to what they would do on later albums.

Breeze · 07-10-2017, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by CarterNMA

Liked AC/DC as a teenager but as an adult I recognize that they are very limited in their sound. A coworker's six-year-old even pointed that out.

Someone in rock, I believe it was Eddie Van Halen, had a quote about AC/DC that touched on this. It was something like:

"They only play 1 song, but it's a damn good song!"

Kodos · 07-10-2017, 07:34 AM

CrimsonFox is an unabashed fanboy of ----- .

Umbrella · 07-10-2017, 12:59 PM

I was convinced I would be the only Stray Cats vote, but I guess there is more U2 hate than I thought.

Prince vs. Meat Loaf was the toughest pick for me this round. The rest were pretty easy.

QuikSand · 07-10-2017, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CarterNMA

Regarding the Monkees, don't forget Michael Nesmith's influence on early music videos.

Hmm, I feel like the construct here is that we are supposed to do exactly that - and forget/ignore the accomplishments of single people when considering the band as the "act." That's why individuals are listed separately... cf. Santana/Carlos and many other examples we have already seen.

Kodos · 07-10-2017, 01:40 PM

I really thought Asia would be closer than they are. I like AC/DC, and they definitely have bigger hits, but I think I probably like the average Asia song more than the average AC/DC song.

View Poll Results: Round 1 Group I
7 - AC/DC	68	90.67%
254 - Asia	7	9.33%
-----	1	1.33%
122 - Emerson, Lake & Palmer	45	60.00%
135 - Cher	12	16.00%
-----	4	5.33%
66 - Janis Joplin	41	54.67%
146 - The Monkees	28	37.33%
-----	3	4.00%
58 - Santana	53	70.67%
207 - Korn	17	22.67%
-----	3	4.00%
47 - R.E.M.	62	82.67%
210 - The Cult	9	12.00%
-----	1	1.33%
87 - Prince	61	81.33%
162 - Meat Loaf	13	17.33%
-----	1	1.33%
106 - Paul Simon	42	56.00%
143 - Billy Idol	33	44.00%
-----	0	0%
18 - U2	61	81.33%
239 - Stray Cats	10	13.33%
-----	1	1.33%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 75. You may not vote on this poll

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07-09-2017, 03:09 PM	#12
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07-09-2017, 03:36 PM	#13
thesloppy Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: PDX	Cher had some solo hits in the '60s and '70s that I'm still familiar with, "Bang Bang", a cover of "All I Really Wanna Do", "Alfie", "Gypsies, Tramps & Thieves", "Half-Breed" and "Dark Lady".....whether any of that qualifies as 'rock' certainly seems debatable. __________________ Last edited by thesloppy : Today at 05:35 PM.

07-09-2017, 04:59 PM	#14
Scarecrow College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Flatlands of America	Damn, Asia with a brutal 1st round. Not sure they should be 'ranked' 254... __________________ Post Count: Eleventy Billion - so deal with it!

07-09-2017, 11:30 AM	#2
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	I spent way more time on Janis Joplin v. The Monkees than I should have.

07-09-2017, 12:48 PM	#4
BYU 14 Coordinator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The scorched Desert	Damn, Janis and the Monkees is looking like a Dog fight.

07-09-2017, 02:38 PM	#7
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	Indeed. The Monkees wee at the forefront of breaking free of their corporate claptrap. So rock and roll that Mike put his fist through a wall and shouting "That could have been your f***ing head!" to get out of their contract and be their own band. They were completely influential in psychadelic music as well as ROckabilly. And micky has a ton of cred as a singer.

07-09-2017, 02:45 PM	#8
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	First appearance of the Moog Synthesizer too

07-09-2017, 03:00 PM	#9
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	Not sure how Cher or even Paul Simon qualify as rock acts. Lame

07-09-2017, 03:03 PM	#10
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	Had plenty of rocky tunes

07-09-2017, 03:04 PM	#11
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	cher I dunno. Only solo cher I've heard was that autotuned pop stuff in the 80s and 90s. I assume this isn't SONNY & Cher

07-09-2017, 05:10 PM	#15
CarterNMA Mascot Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Maryland by way of Arizona	Good to be getting back to rounds where I have opinions. I really loved Asia a lot as a teenager. Their first record was the first vinyl album I ever bought. Liked AC/DC as a teenager but as an adult I recognize that they are very limited in their sound. A coworker's six-year-old even pointed that out. Regarding the Monkees, don't forget Michael Nesmith's influence on early music videos. R.E.M. was also another favorite of my youth. Until about '89 or so then I started losing interest. Prince v. Meatloaf was a difficult one and I wish I could change my Meatloaf pick to Prince. U2...my most hated band of all-time. F Bono, F The Edge, F these self-righteous pricks right in the ear hole. Their stuff before 1984 was good but since then...crap.

07-09-2017, 05:18 PM	#16
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	yes nesmith pretty much invented MTV

07-09-2017, 05:21 PM	#17
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	AHAHAHAHA about u2. Yeah I like some of their song but agree on the selfrighteous image. i like meatloaf's bat out of hell but prince...i cannot vote against his royal badness. acdc meh. I do like asia. ELP is the real goods oh yeah cher stuff. gypsy is a good song. santana is a rock god but korn has some really good stuff never did care for janis joplin. one hit wonder that she didn't even write. gogo alcoholic...

07-09-2017, 05:45 PM	#18
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	ELP had a few nice moments (Take a Pebble in particular), but IMO at least they exemplified the worst aspects of prog rock. No idea who Stray Cats are, but can't bring myself to vote for U2. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

07-09-2017, 05:49 PM	#19
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	50's throwback in the 80s.

07-09-2017, 06:09 PM	#22
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	From the Beginning and Take a Pebble are easily my 2 favourites. I would struggle to find a third to be honest, having heard all their albums from their peak period - s/t debut through Brain Salad Surgery. The circumstances around Emerson's death were bloody tragic though. I was never a fan of the improv King Crimson stuff, but I rank them miles ahead of ELP. Red is a classic, but their first album is probably my favourite. Atmospheric proto-prog, and very understated compared to what they would do on later albums. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

07-10-2017, 07:34 AM	#24
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	CrimsonFox is an unabashed fanboy of ----- . __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

07-10-2017, 12:59 PM	#25
Umbrella High School Varsity Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Back in the desert	I was convinced I would be the only Stray Cats vote, but I guess there is more U2 hate than I thought. Prince vs. Meat Loaf was the toughest pick for me this round. The rest were pretty easy.

07-10-2017, 01:40 PM	#27
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	I really thought Asia would be closer than they are. I like AC/DC, and they definitely have bigger hits, but I think I probably like the average Asia song more than the average AC/DC song. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

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