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Old 09-12-2005, 11:54 PM   #1
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From Amazon.com.

The Complete Calvin & Hobbes is coming out. It weighs 22.5 pounds! Either this strip or the Far Side was the best comic strip ever.

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Old 09-13-2005, 12:06 AM   #2
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I have the Far Side collection, and that's one heavy sumbitch.

I need to get this one. Calvin & Hobbes is my all-time favorite.
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Old 09-13-2005, 12:12 AM   #3
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I have the Far Side collection, and that's one heavy sumbitch.

I need to get this one. Calvin & Hobbes is my all-time favorite.


Yes, it's incredibly heavy. Both books. Man they are good though. I must have reread those books about fifteen times each and still laugh my ass off.
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Old 09-13-2005, 12:32 AM   #4
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Told myself I would not spend anymore money on Amazon until I paid my credit card down some....things like this make it hard to keep that promise to myself.
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Old 09-13-2005, 01:18 AM   #5
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Wow, this looks good. Calvin and Hobbes was amazing.
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Old 09-13-2005, 01:24 AM   #6
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Without looking, my hunch is they aren't offering the free shipping on this one.
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Old 09-13-2005, 01:28 AM   #7
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The Complete Far Side is a beautiful collection. Got it for my wife (well, she was fiance at the time so what term do I use?) for her birthday this past year since she's a huge Far Side fan.

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Old 09-13-2005, 06:01 AM   #8
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Got my Father the Far Side collection, really cool.

This one is all mine.
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Old 09-13-2005, 07:32 AM   #9
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Old 09-13-2005, 09:43 AM   #10
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But they are back. Starting on 9/5, we get C&H dialy and starting last Sunday, in the color comics. Last week it started at the beginning with catching a tiger by a sandwich.

Incidentally, we had our comics shakeup that seems to happen once every 3 years (much of it based on a large reader survey). We do have one of the best comics section in the nation (2 full pages, 2 columns, 34 strips plus the crossword and a couple of other puzzles)...and nearly everything is readable. In this last shakeup, they took out 6 and brought in 6 and the ones they took out included the whiny Kathy, the one-joke Garfield plus Opus on Sundays (artistically brilliant but devoid of any reading value). There is nothing more in the paper that I follow more closely than the comics.
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Old 09-13-2005, 09:52 AM   #11
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I wish Watterson would just make books of new material now. That way, he wouldn't have to conform to the formats that the papers want, and he'd have total artistic control over the strip. I'm sure his publisher wouldn't turn him down if he said "Here's a book of new material. Print it exactly as I have given it to you or don't publish it at all."

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Old 09-13-2005, 09:53 AM   #12
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P.S. When I was a kid, I actually enjoyed Garfield. Did he used to be good and just became stale after a while, or did the strip always suck and I didn't realize it because I was a dumb kid?
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Old 09-13-2005, 09:54 AM   #13
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I thought Bloom County was probably the best ever at its peak, but Calvin and Hobbes was right up there.
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Old 09-13-2005, 09:55 AM   #14
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Bloom County was excellent for a long time. The Outland and everything since has been total ass.
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Old 09-13-2005, 10:56 AM   #15
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what was the strip that was mostly a guy and a dog.... i think the guy had a big nose?

i remember reading it all the time when i was younger and thinking it was great, and then all of a sudden one day it was gone and ive never seen it since, but i thought it was hilarious at the time... any ideas?

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Old 09-13-2005, 01:05 PM   #16
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P.S. When I was a kid, I actually enjoyed Garfield. Did he used to be good and just became stale after a while, or did the strip always suck and I didn't realize it because I was a dumb kid?

I think it was funny and every once in a while, it'll still get a good chuckle out of me. The problem is that he ran out of material quite a while ago and keeps recycling the same thing now that he was doing 10 years ago.

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Old 09-13-2005, 01:10 PM   #17
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Old 09-13-2005, 01:40 PM   #18
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Old 09-13-2005, 02:10 PM   #19
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Old 09-13-2005, 02:48 PM   #20
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Agree with Ksyrup.

Y'all may want to check out "Get Fuzzy." I think that it is the best comic in the paper today. If you like sarcastic animals (and if you don't, what are you doing in a Calvin and Hobbes thread), you may get a kick out of it.
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Old 09-13-2005, 06:33 PM   #21
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Oh I loved Calvin and Hobbes! I had about 5 of their books when i was growing up. Somebody buy me this! ...I'll make it worth your while

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Old 09-13-2005, 06:52 PM   #22
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Y'all may want to check out "Get Fuzzy." I think that it is the best comic in the paper today. If you like sarcastic animals (and if you don't, what are you doing in a Calvin and Hobbes thread), you may get a kick out of it.

Im sorry but when I mentioned that I read and love nearly all of the comics, the two that I avoid like the plague are "Get Fuzzy" and "Pickles". I don't know why but I when they first started appearing a couple of years ago, I found them to be intolerable to read.
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Old 09-13-2005, 07:23 PM   #23
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I was a big fan of Shoe for a long time. I also enjoyed Zits during it's peak... there's not much today I really enjoy.
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Old 09-13-2005, 07:26 PM   #24
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I was a big fan of Shoe for a long time. I also enjoyed Zits during it's peak... there's not much today I really enjoy.

That's interesting, with Zits being my 2nd favorite currently (after Frazz), when or what was its peak?
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Old 09-13-2005, 07:31 PM   #25
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Zits peaked early and, like most strips, has just been recycling the same material for quite a few years now.
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Old 09-13-2005, 09:42 PM   #26
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Comics just aren't cut out of the same mold as they used to be. Now you have to pick some niche to put your comic and can't have the universal comics that touched humor in many facets of society as before. Frankly, I can't think of a "new" comic since about Dilbert that has had huge appeal that people who aren't avid comic readers recognized (tho, like many others has burned itself out much too quickly) and that's early 90s.

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Old 09-13-2005, 09:49 PM   #27
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Comics just aren't cut out of the same mold as they used to be. Now you have to pick some niche to put your comic and can't have the universal comics that touched humor in many facets of society as before. Frankly, I can't think of a "new" comic since about Dilbert that has had huge appeal that people who aren't avid comic readers recognized (tho, like many others has burned itself out much too quickly) and that's early 90s.

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That's interesting and I agree that it has become a niche. In the survey I mentioned above, they said that Dilbert, as popular as it is, is truly a niche comic because while it scored high in the 25-50 group, it scored almost 0 in the under 18 group. Many of the new comics (esp. the ones I occassionaly see in the Denver paper) are like today's sitcoms: trying to be trendy and hip but lacking of anything funny or substance.

By the way, I liked the way they did the Blondie/Dagwood 75th thing with all of the crossovers in other strips (and vice versa). That showed respect.
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Old 09-13-2005, 09:50 PM   #28
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to me, there's calvin and hobbes, and not much else. peanuts perhaps second (unlike Bucc, who was probably around for Socrates, I've only read it in book format ). I like Zits and Get Fuzzy, though the latter gets old quickly.

oh yeah- I frigging hate Dagwood.
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Old 09-13-2005, 09:50 PM   #29
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Old 09-13-2005, 09:53 PM   #30
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Frazz is Calvin all grown up but it's still good see him and Hobbes back.
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Old 09-13-2005, 09:54 PM   #31
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That's interesting and I agree that it has become a niche. In the survey I mentioned above, they said that Dilbert, as popular as it is, is truly a niche comic because while it scored high in the 25-50 group, it scored almost 0 in the under 18 group. Many of the new comics (esp. the ones I occassionaly see in the Denver paper) are like today's sitcoms: trying to be trendy and hip but lacking of anything funny or substance.

By the way, I liked the way they did the Blondie/Dagwood 75th thing with all of the crossovers in other strips (and vice versa). That showed respect.

Yeah, but to be fair, I bet things like Peanuts, Garfield, Calvin and Hobbes, The Far Side, etc- get really low scores, too, just because they are more "old school" comics (or not even written any more in all but Garfield's case but still in papers).

For reference, you get 3 comics in my.yahoo and I've got Garfield for nostalgia's sake, Foxtrot which looks old style but it still kindof a niche as it's less than 20 years old and it's basically nerd humor crossed with family humor, and then Boondocks for a modern style comic but it's definitely a niche comic, too.

Agreed- I liked the Blondie/Dagwood thing. Saw some of those in Garfield- wanted to look up the others but forgot. I don't suppose you have a list of the comics that did it.

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Old 09-13-2005, 09:58 PM   #32
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Frazz is Calvin all grown up but it's still good see him and Hobbes back.

I've heard that a bunch of times, down to the belief that watterson is behind frazz- but no dice, as I recall. I think Frazz is trying to be "Calvin" all grown up, right down to the hair but eh - it doesnt work as well.

I believe it was Mallett who said " All comics are influenced by Calvin and Hobbes or trying desperately to hide that they were influenced by Calvin and Hobbes."
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I've heard that a bunch of times, down to the belief that watterson is behind frazz- but no dice, as I recall. I think Frazz is trying to be "Calvin" all grown up, right down to the hair but eh - it doesnt work as well.

I believe it was Mallett who said " All comics are influenced by Calvin and Hobbes or trying desperately to hide that they were influenced by Calvin and Hobbes."

And the other half are trying to be like Far Side. One of the new ones we got is "Brevity". Between that, Non-Seq in our paper and about 6 more in the Denver paper, they're all trying to be like Larsen.
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And the other half are trying to be like Far Side. One of the new ones we got is "Brevity". Between that, Non-Seq in our paper and about 6 more in the Denver paper, they're all trying to be like Larsen.

Yeah- "Far Side" lookalikes are a genre all there own at this point.

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Yeah, but to be fair, I bet things like Peanuts, Garfield, Calvin and Hobbes, The Far Side, etc- get really low scores, too, just because they are more "old school" comics (or not even written any more in all but Garfield's case but still in papers).

For reference, you get 3 comics in my.yahoo and I've got Garfield for nostalgia's sake, Foxtrot which looks old style but it still kindof a niche as it's less than 20 years old and it's basically nerd humor crossed with family humor, and then Boondocks for a modern style comic but it's definitely a niche comic, too.

Agreed- I liked the Blondie/Dagwood thing. Saw some of those in Garfield- wanted to look up the others but forgot. I don't suppose you have a list of the comics that did it.

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I guess I fall in the middle because the truly classics don't do much for me. These include Dennis the Menace, Peanuts, Garfield, Beetle Bailey and a few others that we don't get any more. Blondie are Family Circus are ok, they did bring them into the current age.

As far as the ones that I saw that did the Blondie crossover thing include: Family Circus, Wizard of ID, Garfield, Hagar, Zits, Rose is Rose, Beetle, Hi & Lois and Mother Goose.

Believe it or not, one of the main reasons I look at the Denver comics is for Boondocks.
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to me, there's calvin and hobbes, and not much else. peanuts perhaps second (unlike Bucc, who was probably around for Socrates, I've only read it in book format ). I like Zits and Get Fuzzy, though the latter gets old quickly.

oh yeah- I frigging hate Dagwood.

That's not too far off actually. I started reading comic strips very early on, before watching TV (not like there were much on in 1964-1965). That's 40 years of reading comics all over the country, including political cartoons. I think I get it from my mother who had many comic strip books from the 1940s and 1950s plus a ton of Disney. I distinctly remember being absorbed in "Sad Sack", a WW2-era comic that was my first exposure to WW2 and military life.
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Old 09-13-2005, 10:45 PM   #37
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We brother used to buy Sad Sack comic books in the early eighties...I always thought it was a rip-off of Beatle Bailey.
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Yeah- "Far Side" lookalikes are a genre all there own at this point.

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Some try to be both. After reading today's section, I just realized that not only is Non-Sequitor a Far Side ripoff, they also ripped off Calvin. Today's C&H was the one were Calvin announced his Dad's poll took a dive in "overall Dad performance" rating. Non-Seq with Deane (however you spell her name) did the exact same thing.
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We brother used to buy Sad Sack comic books in the early eighties...I always thought it was a rip-off of Beatle Bailey.

Other way around. A quick check shows Sad Sack starting in 1942 (obviously) and running in Harvey Comics from 1949-1982. Beetle didn't start until late 1940s.

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I guess I fall in the middle because the truly classics don't do much for me. These include Dennis the Menace, Peanuts, Garfield, Beetle Bailey and a few others that we don't get any more. Blondie are Family Circus are ok, they did bring them into the current age.

As far as the ones that I saw that did the Blondie crossover thing include: Family Circus, Wizard of ID, Garfield, Hagar, Zits, Rose is Rose, Beetle, Hi & Lois and Mother Goose.

Believe it or not, one of the main reasons I look at the Denver comics is for Boondocks.

I'm with you actually - I really enjoy the Boondocks, more so when it was more general racial commentary as opposed to the Bush only rant McGruder's been on for the past 2 years. That being said, I appreciate he has no sacred cows, and recognizes the absurdities in his own characters.
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Old 09-14-2005, 08:37 AM   #41
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Red & Rover is worth a look. Not Calvin, but a good strip about a boy and his dog.
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When I was in 6th or 7th grade we had to do these presentations where you memorize a short story or something and tell it to the class, had to do it every year, it really sucked actually. I did the C&H poem A Nauseous Nocturne, was rather cool.

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what was the strip that was mostly a guy and a dog.... i think the guy had a big nose?

i remember reading it all the time when i was younger and thinking it was great, and then all of a sudden one day it was gone and ive never seen it since, but i thought it was hilarious at the time... any ideas?

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I think I still have the old News & Observer Sunday comic section that had this cartoon in it. At least I hope so. I wonder how many others did so?
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