01-08-2019, 07:36 AM | #1201 |
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I understand losing him after only a couple weeks sucks, but wasn't the absolute best case scenario that he was there for one year?
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01-08-2019, 09:29 AM | #1202 |
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Yeah I can see hiring him for an offensive coordinator/QB coach job but head coach when your team just had the worst record with a head coach 'born and raised" in the NFL? I'm just glad my Cards aren't interested in Marvin Lewis.
Jets also interested in Kingsbury-should make for an interesting turn in the Thomkal Jets/Cards rivalry with my brother
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01-08-2019, 10:20 AM | #1203 |
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Bright young coach seems to be coming to Tampa.
Bucs make Bruce Arians take full physical, include his doctor as part of interview process
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01-08-2019, 12:54 PM | #1204 |
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Yeah poor Cleveland loses again. I guess its good Arians is going back to coaching because his broadcast skills were never going to be as good. Is his family so sick of him already that they are ok with him going back to coaching? I think that and his health were just excuses for needing a break from coaching. Maybe he's found the spark he needed.
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01-08-2019, 03:15 PM | #1205 |
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I think the LaFleur hiring is interesting. He really didn't have a lot to work with with Walker going out in the preseason and one legit (while also inconsistent) WR in Davis. In the games Mariota played, the Titans went 8-4 and scored 23 ppg (including wins over Philly, Dallas and New England). He also did a lot to open their running game and they were much better on 3rd down than GB. I'm thinking if he can get an injured Mariota to complete 69% of his passes at an average of 7.6 ypa - he should be able to improve Rodgers' numbers (62% with a 7.4 ypa). The Titans OL was also pretty awful by most metrics.
In GB, he will have a better QB, better OL, better WR and some young RBs with promise. If you look at his route concepts, 3rd down playcalling and zone running scheme - it should be a nice change from McCarthy's "everybody win your matchup" offense. |
01-08-2019, 03:58 PM | #1206 | |
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The hope was he would be the HC after one year, although really that’s just the desire to have anyone else rather that the perception that Kingsbury is a great HC |
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01-08-2019, 04:03 PM | #1207 | |
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Looking like the Cards are the "winner" here, but not officially announced. Edit: It now has been announced
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01-08-2019, 04:43 PM | #1208 | |
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Right but unless you believe he would prefer to be the USC HC over an NFL HC, you weren't going to end up with him next year anyway. |
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01-08-2019, 09:23 PM | #1209 |
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Fair - I don’t think anybody anticipated the NFL head coaching interest for a coach who basically failed at a not-terrible school.
Let’s be honest, the Cards are taking a shot in the dark at a guy who might look a bit like Sean McVay if you squint hard enough, and if he falls flat on his face they will just Wilks him next year anyway along with a new GM who will bring in his own guy. There’s probably some sour grapes in that evaluation, but also some truth. |
01-09-2019, 09:45 AM | #1210 |
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Cards are trying to be the new Browns
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01-09-2019, 10:14 AM | #1211 |
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I think that Kingsbury seems like such a bad NFL hire that it might end up being good. Like, whenever 100% of pundits agree on something it ends up being wrong.
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01-09-2019, 11:43 AM | #1212 |
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Kitchens? I guess that's a good hire. Williams apparently wanted to make his son DC
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01-09-2019, 11:50 AM | #1213 |
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01-09-2019, 11:56 AM | #1214 |
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01-09-2019, 12:03 PM | #1215 |
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Is that better or worse than the Bengals trying to become the old Bengals?
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01-09-2019, 12:17 PM | #1216 |
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Broncos go with the Bears Fangio.
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01-09-2019, 12:57 PM | #1217 | |
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01-09-2019, 01:28 PM | #1218 |
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01-09-2019, 01:31 PM | #1219 |
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01-09-2019, 02:38 PM | #1220 |
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I have no idea why the Jets aren't jumping all over McCarthy, especially if the reports are to be believed that he wants the job so badly.
I get that he has his limitations but they just need a solid, dependable coach who can bring credibility to the whole organization. I like Rhule and maybe he has a higher ceiling but they can't afford a flop here. |
01-09-2019, 05:18 PM | #1221 |
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Pretty impressive duo leading the Broncos. While not as exciting as the new, shiny pennies found in some of these other jobs - Denver got two really good football guys running the show:
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01-09-2019, 07:01 PM | #1222 |
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Me too. Fangio didn't seem to get as much credit as Nagy for the Bears success, and that just wasn't right. No telling how good of a HC he will make; always a crapshoot even with the great coordinators.
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01-09-2019, 07:08 PM | #1223 | |
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Maybe he was just doing OJT with the Dolphins. I guess if he succeeds with the Jets, the NFL can contract the Dolphins. Adam Gase expected to be hired as New York Jets head coach
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01-09-2019, 07:27 PM | #1224 |
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Ha-ha Jets because he did so well for the Dolphins?
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01-09-2019, 07:41 PM | #1225 |
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I thought it was clear that Gase was overrated/unqualified after his Miami gig.
Dude road the OC coattails of an aging Pey pey to a real payday and then showed his shit. Silly Jets. Called the Denver Fangio hire a week ago, if you get a good DC HC , hire a guy to focus and only run the O (hence Kubiak) you have the workings of the system. Could be special. Now Im curious to see what might be Elways QB song , draft Haskins? Hit the FA market *lol taneyhill or deal for someone's bQB? This will sound sick but I said last month before the playoffs that the Donkeys should offer a 2nd rounder for Nick Mullens. SF got that ceesh tied up in Jeanne Garafolo. Win-win.
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01-09-2019, 08:09 PM | #1226 | |
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Is this the new coaching model? I hear everyone talking about finding the next Sean McVay and it is associated with his ability to develop a QB and scheme up offenses. Could it also be about hiring a great offense mind and turning the defense over to a great defensive mind and vice versa? Someone has to be the "head coach" and make the "head coaching" decisions of course but does it really make sense for Fangio to force Kubiak to run the ball more or Kubiak to force Fangio to play more zone coverage? Could the head coaching decisions be something that comes from the analytic department a la baseball? Just curious.
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01-09-2019, 08:25 PM | #1227 |
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I get the impression that someone's ability to be a successful head coach relies just as much on their social/organizational skills than their abilities regarding football strategy. In essence, the higher one rises within the front office, the more likely that a lack in those social & organizational skills will serve to bottleneck whatever technical football knowledge that person is trying to pass on to their team.
Someone like Sean McVay comes along, and the press runs with a kind of "Beautiful Mind" narrative, based entirely on promoting the dude's remarkable recall and strategic thinking, while ignoring any of the adjacent skills that allow for any of that information to be communicated effectively to his team of players and coaches.
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01-09-2019, 08:38 PM | #1228 |
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ahaha ha haha Gase got another job... poor Sam Darnold.
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01-09-2019, 09:05 PM | #1229 |
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I'm just glad that Colts DC and Toledo alum Matt Eberflus hasn't been plucked by another team.
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01-11-2019, 04:24 PM | #1230 |
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Just saw another amazing Pat Mahomes stat:
- Patrick Mahomes has thrown 5 more TDs (50) than Dustin Colquitt has punted (45) Wonder if that's ever happened before...
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01-11-2019, 05:46 PM | #1231 | |
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01-11-2019, 07:53 PM | #1232 |
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01-12-2019, 05:33 PM | #1233 |
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So was that a penalty just because the dance was close to the ref?
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01-13-2019, 02:58 PM | #1234 |
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It doesn't matter, especially since I think they said "no conclusive evidence of a recovery so the call stands" instead of "it was a fumble, recovered by San Diego". But in the second scenario would we win and get a 3rd challenge chance? Heck, even in the first if Belichick challenged that the ball was fumbled & it conclusively was shouldn't that be enough to count as a win?
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01-13-2019, 03:24 PM | #1235 |
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I dunno if this is baseball thread or football thread but just curious how much of his bonus Kyler Murray gives up if ge chooses football? And the A's lose the pick regardless, right?
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01-13-2019, 03:24 PM | #1236 |
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I don't think one close/competitive game this weekend is too much to ask for, is it?
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01-13-2019, 04:19 PM | #1237 |
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If/when Foles wins another Superbowl this year, Wentz to the Jags/Broncos/Bengals for 3 #1s and some seconds?
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01-13-2019, 04:34 PM | #1238 |
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I don't like that decision to decline the holding to leave the Saints with 4th and a short 1, and even if you do decide to leave them that you have got to be ready for the fake keeper with Hill out there.
Pick your poison a bit by giving the ball back to Brees on 3rd and 11, but with the way he's started the game, I'm taking that option every time. |
01-13-2019, 04:38 PM | #1239 | |
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I believe he gives it all up, which is why it's such a fascinating decision. A lot of money to play minor league baseball for the next 3-5 years with a decent shot of making the majors, or less money to play football in the NFL right away, but knowing that a player of his size and stature has almost never succeeded at that position and he might not get a second contract if he falls flat on his face. |
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01-13-2019, 10:17 PM | #1240 |
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Kyler Murray: Is The NFL A More Lucrative Option Than MLB for Oklahoma QB?
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01-14-2019, 07:24 AM | #1241 |
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Not to bring politics in the NFL thread but...,
How long after a Saints win on Sunday would a state of emergency be declared for the state of Georgia? Can a wall be built at the Georgia western borders in time for Super Bowl week?
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01-14-2019, 07:43 AM | #1242 | |
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01-14-2019, 10:50 AM | #1243 |
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I have a feeling that this is the season the Patriots dynasty ends, as it began: against the Rams.
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01-14-2019, 11:08 AM | #1244 |
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Predicting a high of 14 degrees in Arrowhead on Sunday.
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01-14-2019, 11:09 AM | #1245 |
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Pats vs Saints is a game I have no desire to watch.
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01-14-2019, 11:20 AM | #1246 |
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Certainly no "good guys" in that situation. |
01-14-2019, 12:15 PM | #1247 |
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How are the Saints the bad guys? Payton? Brees is a stand up individual unlike the devil spawn that Tom Brady is.
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01-14-2019, 12:40 PM | #1248 |
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Exactly. Payton is still in place after the bounty thing. That was a never coach again offense in my book.
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01-14-2019, 01:08 PM | #1249 | |
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That’s one of the angles. The others: NE/NO: Veteran, future HOF QB KC/LA: Missouri grudge match KC/NO: Hank Stram Bowl! I’m rooting for matriculation.
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01-14-2019, 01:45 PM | #1250 |
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KC vs. LA would be good.
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