Xbox One vs. PS4

[Kodos]

Which do you prefer, if you could only buy one for the whole next generation today?

[gstelmack]

Note: I'm an outlier here - my family and I actually USE the Kinect on a regular basis, and I'm actually excited about the improvements to it. So all of my reasons probably fall flat for most others.

[Marc Vaughan]

I'll end up with both, but XBox One gets my vote purely because of my current 360 usage really ...

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by gstelmack

Note: I'm an outlier here - my family and I actually USE the Kinect on a regular basis, and I'm actually excited about the improvements to it. So all of my reasons probably fall flat for most others.

Same here. My little girl loves our kinect games.

[Kodos]

I've always preferred the PS controller, although the 360 controller is pretty solid too (the orignal Xbox controller was awful). The 360 won this generation for me because online leagues in the NCAA football series (plus a few other online games like Left 4 Dead). More people had the Xbox version, so I ended up buying the 360 version of games for the most part.

[CraigSca]

Interesting to read the "why"s above. PS4 for me, only because of MLB the Show. If the XBOX had a baseball game on par, it'd be more of an even race.

[MizzouRah]

Not enough data yet...

If someone said, you can get one of them free today only, I'd choose the ps4, which was different than a week or so ago.

That could change though depending on a number of things... mainly exclusive games.

Probably January or so I'll make my choice.

[nilodor]

PS4 for me, can't handle the XBOX controller. I also like the way the media stuff works on the PS vs the XBOX and for my future wife that has been a huge bonus.

[cougarfreak]

I let my kids do a week this week in my current events class on "what they wanted to present on", they had to research a topic that interested them, and present today. One did this very topic. From what I saw, Xbox blows the PS4 out of the water. And I'm a PS3 guy. Either way, I won't be buying the next gen for a while, not enough interest from me.

[Kodos]

Yep. I can definitely wait a while.

[Julio Riddols]

I prefer XBox, but mostly because I want to keep the same button layout I am used to. Back when I owned a PS2 and the original XBOX I always used to press the wrong button multiple times when switching between systems and playing games that featured heavy use of the X button.

[cartman]

Originally Posted by nilodor

PS4 for me, can't handle the XBOX controller. I also like the way the media stuff works on the PS vs the XBOX and for my future wife that has been a huge bonus.

This might be of interest to you then:

17 things we learned from Sony’s massive PS4 FAQ | Ars Technica

The PS4 can’t play MP3s or audio CDs, and it doesn’t have an audio visualizer
The PS4 can’t stream audio and video files from a PC over DLNA

[dubb93]

PS4 simply because of first party track record. I don't care about launch, I have this feeling that in 2, 3, 4 years it will be much like this generation where Sony has the only exclusives I care about.

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by dubb93

PS4 simply because of first party track record. I don't care about launch, I have this feeling that in 2, 3, 4 years it will be much like this generation where Sony has the only exclusives I care about.

Same for me. Went with PS3 this gen because of the exclusive lineup and if I had to chose right now I'd go with it on that track record and the fact that more of the announced PS4 exclusives look interesting to me (The Order: 1886, inFamous: Second Sun, Rime, Everybody's Gone to the Rapture, plus knowing Naughty Dog and and Quantic Dreams are working on games) compared to those on the XBox One (mostly D4 and Quantum Break right now).

[Ryan S]

PS4, mainly due to being a fan of many of the Sony exclusives. I don't plan to buy anything for a while as I need to get through my steam backlog first.

I will probably won't pick up a PS4/XB1 until early 2015, and by then hopefully any RROD style problems will have been fixed.

[Ryan S]

Originally Posted by cartman

This might be of interest to you then:

17 things we learned from Sony’s massive PS4 FAQ | Ars Technica

The PS4 can’t play MP3s or audio CDs, and it doesn’t have an audio visualizer
The PS4 can’t stream audio and video files from a PC over DLNA

I can't figure out why "PS4 games no longer come on DVD?" is in the ugly column. I thought that every PS3 game came on a blu ray disk.

[Julio Riddols]

Originally Posted by Ryan S

I will probably won't pick up a PS4/XB1 until early 2015, and by then hopefully any RROD style problems will have been fixed.

Also this. I don't plan on getting either one of the systems until they have found a good chip set that doesn't overheat or die frequently. Hopefully then they can be had for 249 or less or I might just go with a Steam Box or something in that direction.

[lungs]

I'm not sure I could get another Xbox after my 360 bought shortly after launch got the red ring of death 6 months after I bought it.

[markprior22]

I won't get either for a year or two but it would have to be PS4 just for MLB The Show.

[General Mike]

I'd lean toward PS4 due to my preference for their exclusive titles, but there's only one of those games I'd want any time soon (InFamous)

[MizzouRah]

See... a week later.. more info coming out and I'm back to the XB1.

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by MizzouRah

See... a week later.. more info coming out and I'm back to the XB1.

What did I miss?

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by BYU 14

What did I miss?

haha.. nothing huge.. I just really think the XBL service is superior to the PSN, but I'm sure we will see more about PSN very soon.

[CU Tiger]

I never got a PS3 after being a PS and PS2 fan.
This generation went to XBOX...

One thing I dislike is the cost of XBOX Live and have always heard PSN is free. Does this continue in the next generation? I am a cyber security fearist I suppose and refuse to enter a CC into a "game box" which means we buy the annual gold pass cards through retail...which means paying more than we otherwise would for a family pass etc.

Really like the current XBOX control ergonomically, so concerned to see how the redisgn works...but beyond that...

Id love to find an unbiased break down of the two, because to me right now it looks like
PS4 wins on price
PS4 wins because XBOX includes Kinect (which is of no value and minimal concern to me)
PS4 wins on free online play
XBOX wins familiarity
XBOX wins on controller


what am I missing?

[cartman]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

I never got a PS3 after being a PS and PS2 fan.
This generation went to XBOX...

One thing I dislike is the cost of XBOX Live and have always heard PSN is free. Does this continue in the next generation? I am a cyber security fearist I suppose and refuse to enter a CC into a "game box" which means we buy the annual gold pass cards through retail...which means paying more than we otherwise would for a family pass etc.

Really like the current XBOX control ergonomically, so concerned to see how the redisgn works...but beyond that...

Id love to find an unbiased break down of the two, because to me right now it looks like
PS4 wins on price
PS4 wins because XBOX includes Kinect (which is of no value and minimal concern to me)
PS4 wins on free online play
XBOX wins familiarity
XBOX wins on controller


what am I missing?

Sony is going to charge for online play with the PS4.

[Kodos]

PS4 is Mizzou B-Ball Fan approved!

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

I never got a PS3 after being a PS and PS2 fan.
This generation went to XBOX...

One thing I dislike is the cost of XBOX Live and have always heard PSN is free. Does this continue in the next generation? I am a cyber security fearist I suppose and refuse to enter a CC into a "game box" which means we buy the annual gold pass cards through retail...which means paying more than we otherwise would for a family pass etc.

Really like the current XBOX control ergonomically, so concerned to see how the redisgn works...but beyond that...

Id love to find an unbiased break down of the two, because to me right now it looks like
PS4 wins on price
PS4 wins because XBOX includes Kinect (which is of no value and minimal concern to me)
PS4 wins on free online play
XBOX wins familiarity
XBOX wins on controller


what am I missing?

PSN will cost for next gen.. I hated it on the ps3 compared to x360.

For me, the kinect is huge, but my kids play kinect games.
I've read the ps4 controller is much improved.

Games, who knows at this point.

Still a toss up.. but after watching the xb1 UI video.. I'm back to leaning on the xb1.

[Kodos]

What did people not like about the PS3 controller?

[cartman]

Originally Posted by Kodos

What did people not like about the PS3 controller?

I've never liked any of the PS controllers. They just don't work for me ergonomically. I always get hand cramps after using them for more than 20 or 30 minutes.

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by Kodos

What did people not like about the PS3 controller?

I prefer the 360 controller between the two but never had any problems with the DS3.

[Kodos]

Huh. The dual shock has been my favorite controller, but then I have little girl hands. I know people with big hands tend not to like the dual shock.

[mckerney]

That's probably it, I have tiny girl hands as well.

[General Mike]

Originally Posted by cartman

Sony is going to charge for online play with the PS4.

Yes, but Sony also gives you a lot of free games with your subsciption.

[gstelmack]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

I am a cyber security fearist I suppose and refuse to enter a CC into a "game box" which means we buy the annual gold pass cards through retail...which means paying more than we otherwise would for a family pass etc.

Family Pass is gone, but for Xbox ONE you may only need one Live account depending on what everyone is doing - check the site for details.

With individual accounts, you can usually buy the cards at retail cheaper than the Microsoft auto-renewal - Amazon and others regularly sell a year for $40 or less.

[cartman]

Originally Posted by General Mike

Yes, but Sony also gives you a lot of free games with your subsciption.

XBL Gold members get free games as well. Halo 3 was one of the recent ones.

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by General Mike

Yes, but Sony also gives you a lot of free games with your subsciption.

I think I'd read Microsoft is planning on continuing their Games for Gold which is similar to the PS+ instant game service, though so far the selection offered in Games for Gold hasn't been as good as the PlayStation Plus offerings.

I think that with a PS+ subscription you can get PS4 games for the instant collection even without having a PS4 yet, so that's one thing that will be one thing that will have me leading towards the PS4 when I decide which console to get.

[Julio Riddols]

The thing is, if you let your PS+ subscription end, you don't get to play the games anymore. the XBOX free games are permanently free whether you let your subscription lapse or not. I think that's why the difference in the quality of the offerings seems bigger than it is. I for one have played the shit out of almost every free 360 game so far and have already gotten my subscription fee for the year back in the form of those free games. I dig both sides giving out free games, but I like the permanence of the free 360 games.

[Icy]

Have a PS4 preordered, mainly because MLB The show and some EA games like NHL, Madden and NCAA that you can't buy in Spain but that i can buy the digital version through PSN with my fake Usa account or to import them from USA as the PS3/4 are region free.

The PS3 and now hopefully 4 are the consoles with the more user base in Spain also, so i find it easier to play with friends.

[SackAttack]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

I never got a PS3 after being a PS and PS2 fan.
This generation went to XBOX...

One thing I dislike is the cost of XBOX Live and have always heard PSN is free. Does this continue in the next generation? I am a cyber security fearist I suppose and refuse to enter a CC into a "game box" which means we buy the annual gold pass cards through retail...which means paying more than we otherwise would for a family pass etc.

Really like the current XBOX control ergonomically, so concerned to see how the redisgn works...but beyond that...

Id love to find an unbiased break down of the two, because to me right now it looks like
PS4 wins on price
PS4 wins because XBOX includes Kinect (which is of no value and minimal concern to me)
PS4 wins on free online play
XBOX wins familiarity
XBOX wins on controller


what am I missing?

PSN is no longer free; however, you will be able to access certain subscription services, such as Netflix, without having a paid PSN account (required for multiplayer). Xbox 360, you had to be a Live Gold member to access stuff like Netflix, so there may still be some differences there.

The DualShock 4 is much improved over the DualShock 3, but I still don't know how it stacks up to the Xbox One controller.

[Kodos]

How has DS4 improved over DS3?

[SackAttack]

Originally Posted by Kodos

How has DS4 improved over DS3?

They've changed the feel of the analog sticks. There's a concavity that wasn't there on the PS3 sticks, which makes it easier to 'grip' them, if that makes sense.

I want to say - although I couldn't compare side-by-side to see - that the placement and spacing of the sticks are moderately different, also.

The controller felt slightly larger, but that might just be the placement of the sticks playing tricks on my brain. The L2/R2 triggers felt more responsive.

[oykib]

Originally Posted by cartman

XBL Gold members get free games as well. Halo 3 was one of the recent ones.

I have both. But XBL Games with Gold hasn't measured up to this point.

Take this month for example.

A World of Keflings
Iron Brigade

Let's compare that to PS+ in November.


Dragon’s Dogma: Dark Arisen
ibb & obb
Binary Domain

PS+ also has free games for the Vita and the PS4. They also throw in suprise mini games and old PSP or PS1/2 games.

[MizzouRah]

Oh man Dragon's Dogma.. one of my favorite games of all time.

[IlliniCub]

Yeah I couldn't begin to overstate the value of the 50 dollars I spent on PS plus when I got my PS3 a year ago. Best deal in gaming.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by IlliniCub

Yeah I couldn't begin to overstate the value of the 50 dollars I spent on PS plus when I got my PS3 a year ago. Best deal in gaming.

+1. If they're going to continue to deliver the value that they have thus far, it's a no-brainer for me. Between my PS3/PS4/Vita, I'm going to pick up 4-5 games a month for free for what amounts to about $4/month.

[RainMaker]

Neither right now. Will wait to see which one cranks out better exclusives. These are practically identical machines and this is all manufactured hype that is bad for gamers.

[TroyF]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Neither right now. Will wait to see which one cranks out better exclusives. These are practically identical machines and this is all manufactured hype that is bad for gamers.

Huh? Bad for games? Seriously?

It's probably better for games than anything that had ever previously taken place. The two consoles have pushed each other to create new and inventive ideas. I was on record above stating I wasn't likely to get one. I think now I will likely get both. For PS4, MLB the show and remote play to the Vita are massive things for me. For Xbox, the more I read about the multimedia features, the more I get excited. My wife and neices and nephews love using the kinect and it will likely become a staple in my house.

I love what they are doing and I don't think any of this is bad for games. Just my opinion.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by TroyF

Huh? Bad for games? Seriously?

It's probably better for games than anything that had ever previously taken place. The two consoles have pushed each other to create new and inventive ideas. I was on record above stating I wasn't likely to get one. I think now I will likely get both. For PS4, MLB the show and remote play to the Vita are massive things for me. For Xbox, the more I read about the multimedia features, the more I get excited. My wife and neices and nephews love using the kinect and it will likely become a staple in my house.

I love what they are doing and I don't think any of this is bad for games. Just my opinion.

Games are built for consoles instead of consoles being built for games. Consoles have become more cost prohibitive for game development of major titles and create artificial exclusivity.

There is nothing innovative here. They are just packaging outdated computer hardware inside a clever marketing campaign and some proprietary interface. And now they can charge for stuff that should be free because people get suckered in thinking they are on board the next big thing.

Consoles should be built to support games, not the other way around.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by TroyF

Huh? Bad for games? Seriously?

It's probably better for games than anything that had ever previously taken place. The two consoles have pushed each other to create new and inventive ideas. I was on record above stating I wasn't likely to get one. I think now I will likely get both. For PS4, MLB the show and remote play to the Vita are massive things for me. For Xbox, the more I read about the multimedia features, the more I get excited. My wife and neices and nephews love using the kinect and it will likely become a staple in my house.

I love what they are doing and I don't think any of this is bad for games. Just my opinion.

Totally agree. The interest is sky high for better or worse and it's great for gaming.

[TroyF]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Games are built for consoles instead of consoles being built for games. Consoles have become more cost prohibitive for game development of major titles and create artificial exclusivity.

There is nothing innovative here. They are just packaging outdated computer hardware inside a clever marketing campaign and some proprietary interface. And now they can charge for stuff that should be free because people get suckered in thinking they are on board the next big thing.

Consoles should be built to support games, not the other way around.

This is a chicken/egg argument I just do not care about. Both systems have exclusive titles AT LAUNCH that I want to play. Give developers more time and it will be nuts what will be done. Oudated computer hardware? Maybe. Are they fun and enjoyable? Ummm, yeah, they are. Ill leave the complaining to others. I think pc, xbox and ps owners can all say they have a terrific system and book of games.

Of course i still remember playing games off of my trs 80 cassette drive, i am stunned at how far weve came in the last thirty years.