FOFC Malarky II: 1st question

Poli · 04-26-2004, 11:11 PM

FOFC Malarky rules <---

"Contestants" will answer questions asked and vote for the right answer, while "judges" will just vote for the right answer after all answers have been submitted.

Question #1:

What is the difference between a "kit" and a "caboodle"?

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Others are welcome to post as they wish, but only answers given by players will be considered for voting. Please do not post answers from the web or attempt to assist the players. Please do not look up the answers on the internet. Please make one 'clear' distinction between your answer and the others. Thanks!

Pumpy Tudors · 04-26-2004, 11:45 PM

The terms are based in mountain climbing. Early North American mountain climbers, many of whom immigrated from western Europe, built their own equipment. Because a climber's outfit resembled a construction kit, the items were collectively called a "kit." One of the most important pieces of equipment for the mountain climber is the carabiner, which requires the greatest precision to construct safely. As many of the mountain climbers did not wish to risk their lives by making their own carabiners, they tended to buy them from master smiths. As mountain climbing became more popular, the climbers and smiths worked together pretty often, and they started calling the carabiners "caboodles" for fun. Whenever veteran climbers introduced a new one into the fold, they'd make sure that he was always prepared with his own "kit" and his own "caboodle."

To answer the question more directly: Over time, the term "kit" became used to describe the collection of equipment used to perform a task, while a "caboodle" described the most important element of the kit.

stkelly52 · 04-27-2004, 05:50 AM

Interestingly enough, it comes from trains. A complete trains and refered to a train that had a dinner car ([b]Kit[\b]chen) and a caboose (caboodle).

TredWel · 04-27-2004, 08:12 AM

Kit n' caboodle originally meant a family conisisting of many children. These families would be somewhat snidely called "kitten and poodle", indicating the large number of small creatures running around. Over time, the phrase has been turned into the slang "kit n' caboodle", and has come to mean totality in any aspect.

The Afoci · 04-27-2004, 12:39 PM

Kit and Caboodle actually started in Europe. The true origins aren't known, but it is legend that it came about when a wealthy prince in England was caught with a maid by his wife, that in such a rage she began throwing things out the windows, breaking things and such.

Now Pumpy had things right in the fact that in the word Kit meant essentially all your stuff and caboodle was the most important or expensive thing. The townspeople were alleged to have started saying that all people that went broke or were kicked out had lost the whole kit and caboodle in reference to what the prince was screaming as he tried to calm his wife.

kingfc22 · 04-27-2004, 04:17 PM

The term kit like others have mentioned refers to all your stuff. You see the term "kits" refered to a kit that held tools. However, the term "caboodle" refers to the owner's property or household things.

With all this said, the phrase "kit and caboodle" means all your stuff and the container you carry it in.

John Galt · 04-27-2004, 04:22 PM

The Afoci is playing again. Doesn't everyone know by now that all his answers are wrong? Look at is his answer this time - he couldn't even find Europe on the map.

stkelly is obviously wrong because he couldn't get his BOLD setting to work.

Tredwel's answer doesn't make any sense. Poodles => caboodles!?!?!

kingfc's answer is more boring than all of mine were (and I never got a vote when I was bluffing).

So, I think Pumpy has this one right.

Or not.

The Afoci · 04-27-2004, 04:28 PM

I couldn't find Europe on the map because it was a map of Canada. And you had a damn pretty donkey teasing me. One with librarian glasses on.

John Galt · 04-27-2004, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Afoci

I couldn't find Europe on the map because it was a map of Canada. And you had a damn pretty donkey teasing me. One with librarian glasses on.

You got nothing.

Poli · 04-27-2004, 04:39 PM

All answers are in. Contestants and judges, get your votes in (via PM).

04-26-2004, 11:45 PM	#2
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	The terms are based in mountain climbing. Early North American mountain climbers, many of whom immigrated from western Europe, built their own equipment. Because a climber's outfit resembled a construction kit, the items were collectively called a "kit." One of the most important pieces of equipment for the mountain climber is the carabiner, which requires the greatest precision to construct safely. As many of the mountain climbers did not wish to risk their lives by making their own carabiners, they tended to buy them from master smiths. As mountain climbing became more popular, the climbers and smiths worked together pretty often, and they started calling the carabiners "caboodles" for fun. Whenever veteran climbers introduced a new one into the fold, they'd make sure that he was always prepared with his own "kit" and his own "caboodle." To answer the question more directly: Over time, the term "kit" became used to describe the collection of equipment used to perform a task, while a "caboodle" described the most important element of the kit. __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

04-27-2004, 08:12 AM	#4
TredWel High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Old Forge, PA	Kit n' caboodle originally meant a family conisisting of many children. These families would be somewhat snidely called "kitten and poodle", indicating the large number of small creatures running around. Over time, the phrase has been turned into the slang "kit n' caboodle", and has come to mean totality in any aspect. __________________ There are three things I have learned never to discuss with people...religion, politics, and the Great Pumpkin. - Linus Van Pelt

04-27-2004, 12:39 PM	#5
The Afoci Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Moorhead	Kit and Caboodle actually started in Europe. The true origins aren't known, but it is legend that it came about when a wealthy prince in England was caught with a maid by his wife, that in such a rage she began throwing things out the windows, breaking things and such. Now Pumpy had things right in the fact that in the word Kit meant essentially all your stuff and caboodle was the most important or expensive thing. The townspeople were alleged to have started saying that all people that went broke or were kicked out had lost the whole kit and caboodle in reference to what the prince was screaming as he tried to calm his wife. __________________ I had something.

04-27-2004, 04:17 PM	#6
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	The term kit like others have mentioned refers to all your stuff. You see the term "kits" refered to a kit that held tools. However, the term "caboodle" refers to the owner's property or household things. With all this said, the phrase "kit and caboodle" means all your stuff and the container you carry it in. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

04-27-2004, 04:22 PM	#7
John Galt Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Internets	The Afoci is playing again. Doesn't everyone know by now that all his answers are wrong? Look at is his answer this time - he couldn't even find Europe on the map. stkelly is obviously wrong because he couldn't get his BOLD setting to work. Tredwel's answer doesn't make any sense. Poodles => caboodles!?!?! kingfc's answer is more boring than all of mine were (and I never got a vote when I was bluffing). So, I think Pumpy has this one right. Or not. __________________ I do mind, the Dude minds. This will not stand, ya know, this aggression will not stand, man. - The Dude

04-27-2004, 05:50 AM	#3
stkelly52 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Seattle WA	Interestingly enough, it comes from trains. A complete trains and refered to a train that had a dinner car ([b]Kit[\b]chen) and a caboose (caboodle).

04-27-2004, 04:28 PM	#8
The Afoci Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Moorhead	I couldn't find Europe on the map because it was a map of Canada. And you had a damn pretty donkey teasing me. One with librarian glasses on. __________________ I had something.

04-27-2004, 04:39 PM	#10
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	All answers are in. Contestants and judges, get your votes in (via PM). __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

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