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Old 11-21-2004, 11:13 AM   #1
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cartman's FOFC Top 25 poll, week 13, open for voting (another quick turnaround week)

Hello all,

Another great day of college football. With 1/3 of the FOFC Top 25 off this week, and only a couple of upsets, how much will the poll change?

This is another short voting week, since there are some games involving potential Top 25 teams on Tuesday night. So, votes are due in by 6pm Central time, Tuesday Nov. 23.


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Team Votes Result 1. Auburn (5) 290 Beat Alabama 21-13 2. USC (3) 289 Bye 3. Oklahoma (4) 284 Beat Baylor 35-0 4. California 258 Beat Stanford 41-6 5. Utah 247 Beat BYU 52-21 6. Texas 241 Bye 7. Michigan 232 Lost to Ohio State 37-21 8. Louisville 193 Beat Houston 65-27 9. Georgia 186 Bye 10. Boise State 177 Beat La. Tech 55-14 11. Wisconsin 168 Lost to #15 Iowa 30-7 12. Miami 167 Beat Wake Forest 52-7 13. Arizona State 152 Bye 14. Florida State 150 Lost to Florida 20-13 15. Iowa 135 Beat #11 Wisconsin 30-7 16. Virginia Tech 128 Beat Maryland 55-6 17. LSU 108 Beat Ole Miss 27-24 18. Tennessee 102 Beat Vanderbilt 38-33 19. Virginia 101 Beat Georgia Tech 30-10 20. Boston College 68 Beat Temple 34-17 21. Texas A&M 66 Bye 22. Oklahoma State 50 Bye 23. West Virginia 48 Bye 24. UTEP 28 Beat SMU 57-27 25. Bowling Green 23 Bye
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Old 11-21-2004, 11:20 AM   #2
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Dola,

Here's my Top 25:

1. USC
2. Auburn
3. Oklahoma
4. Texas
5. California
6. Utah
7. Louisville
8. Boise State
9. Georgia
10. Miami
11. Iowa
12. Arizona State
13. Virginia Tech
14. Michigan
15. Virginia
16. LSU
17. Tennessee
18. West Virginia
19. Texas A&M
20. Oklahoma State
21. Boston College
22. UTEP
23. Florida State
24. Bowling Green
25. Wisconsin
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Old 11-21-2004, 11:23 AM   #3
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1.) Oklahoma
2.) USC
3.) Auburn
4.) Texas
5.) California
6.) Utah
7.) Iowa
8.) Louisville
9.) Arizona State
10.) Miami
11.) Georgia
12.) Virginia Tech
13.) Boise State
14.) Tennessee
15.) Michigan
16.) LSU
17.) Virginia
18.) Oklahoma State
19.) Boston College
20.) West Virginia
21.) Wisconsin
22.) Florida State
23.) Texas A&M
24.) UTEP
25.) Bowling Green
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Old 11-21-2004, 11:30 AM   #4
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1. Oklahoma
2. USC
3. Auburn
4. Utah
5. Boise State
6. California
7. Texas
8. Miami
9. Louisville
10. Michigan
11. Iowa
12. Virginia Tech
13. Boston College
14. Arizona State
15. Tennessee
16. Georgia
17. LSU
18. UTEP
19. FSU
20. Virginia
21. Oklahoma State
22. Navy
23. Texas A&M
24. West Virginia
25. Wisconsin

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Old 11-21-2004, 11:32 AM   #5
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1. USC
2. California
3. Oklahoma
4. Auburn
5. Utah
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7. Boise State
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11. Miami
12. Arizona State
13. Tennessee
14. Boston College
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Old 11-21-2004, 10:30 PM   #6
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1. Oklahoma
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4. Utah
5. California
6. Texas
7. Iowa
8. Boise State
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10. Louisville
11. Georgia
12. Virginia Tech
13. Louisiana State
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Old 11-22-2004, 10:52 AM   #7
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1. USC
2. Auburn
3. Oklahoma
4. California
5. Utah
6. Texas
7. Arizona State
8. Boise State
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10. Louisville
11. Virginia Tech
12. Georgia
13. Miami
14. Virginia
15. Michigan
16. Tennessee
17. Wisconsin
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19. Boston College
20. UTEP
21. Oklahoma State
22. West Virginia
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Old 11-22-2004, 12:18 PM   #8
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1Auburn
2Southern Cal
3Oklahoma
4Utah
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6Texas
7Louisville
8Miami (FL)
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10Georgia
11Virginia
12Iowa
13Boise St.
14Texas A&M
15Florida St.
16Oklahoma St.
17LSU
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19Tennessee
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Old 11-23-2004, 09:44 AM   #9
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remember, the polls are due in by 6pm Central tonight!
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Old 11-23-2004, 11:39 AM   #10
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1. Auburn
2. USC
3. Cal
3. Oklahoma
5. Utah
6. Boise State
7. Louisville
8. Texas
9. Miami
10. Arizona State
11. UGA
12. Tennessee
13. Virginia Tech
14. Virgina
15. Iowa
16. Boston College
17. Florida State
18. UTEP
19. LSU
20. Texas A&M
21. Ohio State
22. Oklahoma State
23. West Virgina
24. Bowling Green
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Old 11-23-2004, 02:10 PM   #11
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4 hours to go to get your votes in
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Old 11-23-2004, 04:06 PM   #12
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1. Oklahoma (1)
2. Auburn (2)
3. USC (3)
4. California (4)
5. Utah (5)
6. Texas (7)
7. Louisville (8)
8. Boise State (9)
9. Virginia Tech (12)
10. Georgia (13)
11. LSU (14)
12. Miami (15)
13. Virginia (16)
14. Tennessee (forgotten last week)
15. Arizona State (17)
16. Iowa (18)
17. Boston College (19)
18. Michigan (6)
19. West Virginia (20)
20. Texas A&M (21)
21. Wisconsin (10)
22. UTEP (22)
23. Bowling Green (23)
24. Oklahoma State (24)
25. Pittsburgh (25)

Dropped out- Florida State (11)
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Old 11-23-2004, 04:33 PM   #13
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1. Auburn
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13. Iowa
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15. LSU
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Old 11-23-2004, 04:58 PM   #14
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about an hour left to get your votes in
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Old 11-23-2004, 05:01 PM   #15
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I think that Noop's voting privileges should be revoked.
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Old 11-23-2004, 05:04 PM   #16
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I think that Noop's voting privileges should be revoked.

I told you and the rest of the OU nation I would leave the bickering alone. But please this is my vote doesnt effect one thing. Get over it.
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Old 11-23-2004, 05:10 PM   #17
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The only reason I have Oklahoma ahead of Cal is because they're unbeaten. If they played, I think Cal would easily win.
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Old 11-23-2004, 05:11 PM   #18
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The only reason I have Oklahoma ahead of Cal is because they're unbeaten. If they played, I think Cal would easily win.

You're nuts.
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Old 11-23-2004, 05:12 PM   #19
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Get over it.

Cal tied with Oklahoma at number 3? That is the fucking retarded. You need to get off the sauce, little man.
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Old 11-23-2004, 05:12 PM   #20
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The only reason I have Oklahoma ahead of Cal is because they're unbeaten. If they played, I think Cal would easily win.

Saying such things will get you gangbanged by the OU nation.
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Old 11-23-2004, 05:13 PM   #21
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The only reason I have Oklahoma ahead of Cal is because they're unbeaten. If they played, I think Cal would easily win.

Cal couldn't even hold OU's jock.
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Old 11-23-2004, 05:14 PM   #22
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Cal tied with Oklahoma at number 3? That is the fucking retarded. You need to get off the sauce, little man.

Hmm so your getting offended by a poll from someone on the web. Haha get over yourself....
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Old 11-23-2004, 05:14 PM   #23
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Saying such things will get you gangbanged by the OU nation.

If OU wins these next two games and win the title, I'm going to ride you until next season rolls around.
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Old 11-23-2004, 05:15 PM   #24
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Hmm so your getting offended by a poll from someone on the web. Haha get over yourself....

I'm offended by your clear bias against OU. If they win the title, you're going to say they didn't deserve it.
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Old 11-23-2004, 05:16 PM   #25
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If OU wins these next two games and win the title, I'm going to ride you until next season rolls around.

I see. I could care less really this goes back to what I said before OU fans on the web are a bunch of losers. One person doesnt believe the hype and they are all at arms. Eat a dick and swollow the cum bitch.
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Old 11-23-2004, 05:19 PM   #26
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If OU wins these next two games and win the title, I'm going to ride you until next season rolls around.
He won't have to worry about that. If OU makes it to the BCS championship game, they'll get raped by USC. Just be glad they won't play Auburn...Auburn vs OU would be a laugh riot.
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Old 11-23-2004, 05:20 PM   #27
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He won't have to worry about that. If OU makes it to the BCS championship game, they'll get raped by USC. Just be glad they won't play Auburn...Auburn vs OU would be a laugh riot.

Oh no... now you went and done it. They will come by the hundreds...
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Eat a dick and swollow the cum bitch.

You're so cute when you tried to talk like your a badass.
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He won't have to worry about that. If OU makes it to the BCS championship game, they'll get raped by USC. Just be glad they won't play Auburn...Auburn vs OU would be a laugh riot.

I'm going to have to remember this thread.
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You're so cute when you tried to talk like your a badass.

Really? Guess you Oklahoma folks into people saying bad words... fucking weirdos...
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He won't have to worry about that. If OU makes it to the BCS championship game, they'll get raped by USC. Just be glad they won't play Auburn...Auburn vs OU would be a laugh riot.

Be closer than you think.
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Old 11-23-2004, 05:23 PM   #32
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Oh no... now you went and done it. They will come by the hundreds...
LOL You should have seen it a few years ago when I mentioned in a OU vs. Texas thread that neither would factor into the Nat'l Championship picture. I was getting hit from both sides for that comment.
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Really? Guess you Oklahoma folks into people saying bad words... fucking weirdos...

I think my son's cute when he tries to act like a tough guy so take it for what's it is worth, junior.
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Old 11-23-2004, 05:27 PM   #34
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I think my son's cute when he tries to act like a tough guy so take it for what's it is worth, junior.

Haha its ok... you started it.( So childish huh?) Go OU!!! Boo there fans like Duckman.... Go OU!!! Boo Duckman!Go OU!!! Boo Duckman!Go OU!!! Boo Duckman!Go OU!!! Boo Duckman!Go OU!!! Boo Duckman!Go OU!!! Boo Duckman!Go OU!!! Boo Duckman!Go OU!!! Boo Duckman!Go OU!!! Boo Duckman!Go OU!!! Boo Duckman!Go OU!!! Boo Duckman!Go OU!!! Boo Duckman!Go OU!!! Boo Duckman!Go OU!!! Boo Duckman!Go OU!!! Boo Duckman!
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Old 11-23-2004, 05:30 PM   #35
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Haha its ok... you started it.( So childish huh?) Go OU!!! Boo there fans like Duckman.... Go OU!!! Boo Duckman!Go OU!!! Boo Duckman!Go OU!!! Boo Duckman!Go OU!!! Boo Duckman!Go OU!!! Boo Duckman!Go OU!!! Boo Duckman!Go OU!!! Boo Duckman!Go OU!!! Boo Duckman!Go OU!!! Boo Duckman!Go OU!!! Boo Duckman!Go OU!!! Boo Duckman!Go OU!!! Boo Duckman!Go OU!!! Boo Duckman!Go OU!!! Boo Duckman!Go OU!!! Boo Duckman!

I swear you are slightly retarded.
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Old 11-23-2004, 05:31 PM   #36
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I swear you are slightly retarded.

And your mom has balls!!!!!!!!
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Old 11-23-2004, 05:39 PM   #37
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Yes, because we should all believe that OU fans are steadfast in their objectivity regarding their own team's ability.

I recall with great laughter the "greatest college team of all time" talk from last season. That one worked out well for you. I was told I was an idiot when I dared suggest KSU would give you a game. And when I flatly stated LSU would win, more insults from Sooner Nation.

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Old 11-23-2004, 05:47 PM   #38
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Yes, because we should all believe that OU fans are steadfast in their objectivity regarding their own team's ability.

I recall with great laughter the "greatest college team of all time" talk from last season. That one worked out well for you. I was told I was an idiot when I dared suggest KSU would give you a game. And when I flatly stated LSU would win, more insults from Sooner Nation.

Good times.

I remember that.
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Old 11-23-2004, 07:35 PM   #39
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Yep, where were all the OU fans last year when Noop accurately predicted OU's collapse in the final games? How soon do they forget?
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Old 11-23-2004, 07:36 PM   #40
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dola,

I'm taking a break from Pirates for a while, so I can post the results.
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Old 11-23-2004, 07:46 PM   #41
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Yep, where were all the OU fans last year when Noop accurately predicted OU's collapse in the final games? How soon do they forget?

You must'n say anything... I am slightly retarded and know nothing.
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Old 11-24-2004, 03:08 PM   #42
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First, I want to apologize to Noop for acting like an ass yesterday. You have a right to your opinion and I should never had calling you names. I hope you accept this apology.

Second, I don't recalled ever posting or saying that last year's OU team was "the greatest of all-time", but I know I did post that we would kill Kansas State in last year's championship game. I also said that LSU had no chance against OU and I was wrong.

Now, I do believe that OU should be undefeated barring a Cyclone upset at the Big XII Championship Game. However, I will not take for granted what Auburn or USC can do against the Sooners. I think that we have a good shot as any to beat them, but it could easily be a Tiger or Trojan win. The running game is a big help for them because Jason is not as banged up and has been as accurate as ever. I look forward to either teams playing against Oklahoma. It should be a game to watch.
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Old 11-24-2004, 03:21 PM   #43
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I find it funny sometimes how the anti-OU crowd so rabidly bashes the OU fans on this board saying we're the ones who are being unreasonable. The "greatest team of all-time" crap rarely, if ever, came from Sooner fans. It was the media hype. But guys like Huckleberry like to throw that back in OU fans faces like we were the ones claiming it.

I will admit that I thought OU was untouchable last year. Nearly everyone did, even people who hated OU. Noop wasn't being some kind of phenomenal prognosticater. He was showing his disdain for OU and their fans, and in my opinion, he got lucky that they lost. He didn't see anything that the rest of us didn't see; he just went against the grain and ended up being right.

After OU lost to KSU, I think a lot of OU fans were humbled. We realized that that team was not untouchable, and I think very few people think this year's team is untouchable. OU can lose to Iowa State. They can lose to Auburn, and they can lose to USC. But they can also win all three of those games, and someone who claims to know otherwise is fooling themself.

I don't condone some of the talk of some OU fans. Luckily, duckman has apologized for some of the things he said. I think Noop should do the same.

But it always strikes me how OU fans on this board, and in this thread, are always called out for being so vocal about their team. But what do expect when some others are being vocal against their team? Everyone who feels strongly about a team rises to defend that team. It's called passion, and it's not unique to Oklahoma.
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Noop wasn't being some kind of phenomenal prognosticater. He was showing his disdain for OU and their fans, and in my opinion, he got lucky that they lost. He didn't see anything that the rest of us didn't see; he just went against the grain and ended up being right.

I have said it before I have no problem with OU the team or program because I respect what they have done and how they have done it. I have stated many times over and over I have problems with the fans I have ran into on the internet. I said in another post I will not seek to bash OU or anything I will keep them to myself for the rest of the season. I will offer opinions and that is it nothing more nothing less. I didn't lucky I said it well in advance of the collaspe at the height of their regular season run. I said why I thought they werent as good as stated during the that season. I turned out to be right no big deal I have been wrong many times. Now this latest clash happen because i ranked OU tied with Cal at three on our FOFC Poll...should I explain why? If we're going to set that precdent(sp?) then everyone single person should. I apologized to Duckman in private and will do so public I have no ill will toward anyone of the college football fans on this board.
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I have said it before I have no problem with OU the team or program because I respect what they have done and how they have done it. I have stated many times over and over I have problems with the fans I have ran into on the internet. I said in another post I will not seek to bash OU or anything I will keep them to myself for the rest of the season. I will offer opinions and that is it nothing more nothing less. I didn't lucky I said it well in advance of the collaspe at the height of their regular season run. I said why I thought they werent as good as stated during the that season. I turned out to be right no big deal I have been wrong many times. Now this latest clash happen because i ranked OU tied with Cal at three on our FOFC Poll...should I explain why? If we're going to set that precdent(sp?) then everyone single person should. I apologized to Duckman in private and will do so public I have no ill will toward anyone of the college football fans on this board.

All I'm saying Noop is that I think your dislike for the OU fans sometimes clouds your judgment about OU the team. I could be completely wrong. That's just the way I see it.

You absolutely have every right to your opinion, especially in these poll threads. That's the whole point of them. I think you're opinion on OU this season is wrong, but then again I thought that last year too and look what happened.

Seriously, there aren't any ill feelings or anything from me, and I hope my post didn't sound like I was attacking you. That wasn't my point at all. My point was simply to mention how people berate OU fans for their passion then turn around and do the same thing in their bashing of OU fans.

I don't think (I certainly could be wrong of course) that I've ever ragged on someone for their votes in these polls, and I can't remember ever asking someone to justify their votes, even when I disagree with them.
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All I'm saying Noop is that I think your dislike for the OU fans sometimes clouds your judgment about OU the team. I could be completely wrong. That's just the way I see it.

Your wrong.
I don't have a problem with the Oklahoma Sooners football team or program.
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Your wrong.
I don't have a problem with the Oklahoma Sooners football team or program.

I'm not sure if you read what I was saying. I was saying that maybe the problem you do have (with the OU fans) is effecting your analysis of the Sooner team, not that you have any kind of a problem with the team themself. I've heard you reiterate that you don't have any problem with Oklahoma many times, but I still find it odd that you consistently place OU lower than most others in the polls and take shots at them in other threads discussing college football. I looked back at last year's polls, and you made the same kind of comments then as well.

My statement was really referring to something that may be somewhat unconscious with you, that you're feelings for the fans could be effecting your analysis of the team.

Again, I could be wrong, and I figure you will probably think that I am. I'm just giving my opinion based upon what I've seen.
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I'm not sure if you read what I was saying. I was saying that maybe the problem you do have (with the OU fans) is effecting your analysis of the Sooner team, not that you have any kind of a problem with the team themself. I've heard you reiterate that you don't have any problem with Oklahoma many times, but I still find it odd that you consistently place OU lower than most others in the polls and take shots at them in other threads discussing college football. I looked back at last year's polls, and you made the same kind of comments then as well.

My statement was really referring to something that may be somewhat unconscious with you, that you're feelings for the fans could be effecting your analysis of the team.

Again, I could be wrong, and I figure you will probably think that I am. I'm just giving my opinion based upon what I've seen.

I already said I will discuss OU if they are in a discussion I will give my opinion if you think it is slanted I can do nothing about that... I won' say anything for the reason of the season other then my opinion and kudos when I see fit.
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