Chad Ford - an Idiot?

Sublime 2 · 01-25-2005, 09:40 PM

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Not sure what everyone here thinks of Chad Ford of ESPN, but I for one am in total agreement w/ Mark Cuban. To say Chad Ford is an NBA "Insider" is a complete joke. Now most of my hate for Ford comes from the fact that he seems to have a bias against my Celtics, but i digress. He seems to love playing make-believe w/ trades. What do you all think of Mr. Ford? I personally would much rather have David Aldridge.

DaddyTorgo · 01-25-2005, 09:43 PM

wait...there are still people who pay attention to the NBA??

sovereignstar · 01-25-2005, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

wait...there are still people who pay attention to the NBA??

I'm trying to figure out what's more useful. Your comment or a parody thread.

DaddyTorgo · 01-25-2005, 09:57 PM

true that.

and for the record: I've always thought Chad Ford was an idiot, and a joke of an "NBA insider." Then again, most of these "Insider" guys it seems don't know all that much.

Joe · 01-25-2005, 11:15 PM

he's more of an NBA insider than Steve Young and Michael Irvin are NFL experts.

Honolulu_Blue · 01-25-2005, 11:42 PM

I like Ford becaue he loves Joe Dumars and the Pistons. He also loves Darko. Yay Darko! Yay Chad!

Samdari · 01-26-2005, 08:16 AM

I read Ford all the time and have always thought he was the best NBA writer.

I'd take him over DA in a second.

Ksyrup · 01-26-2005, 08:22 AM

I don't follow the NBA, so I don't even know who Chad Ford is, but I have the same question for some guy named Jerry Crasnick for baseball - who is he and why would I pay for Insider to read what he has to say? Rob Neyer, I've heard of. But their only other baseball insider is some guy with no name recognition at all. Makes no sense to me.

Swaggs · 01-26-2005, 08:42 AM

For what it is worth, I subscribe to ESPN Insider and think it is worth it.

It comes with a year's subscription to ESPN the Magazine, which is not great, but is weekly and has some reasonably substantial (re: long) articles. For someone like me that no longer subscribes to SI or TSN, it is decent.

I like being able to read Neyer, the chat transcripts, Kiper's draft info, and Lemming's recruiting info. I guess it is kind of a good, centralized source of info for someone like me, who is into a lot of sports, but not fanatical about any one sport. I wouldn't subscribe to a Baseball Prospectus, Rivals, or any single-sport site, so this is kind of a good middle ground to me.

Arles · 01-26-2005, 09:06 AM

I'm don't have a big opinion on Ford either way, although he did seem to make some sense in his last comment (ie, Cuban saying Nash is too old for a long term deal then he signs Dampier to a similar deal with him being just one year younger than Nash). While I don't think Ford is as good as Aldridge, it seems Cuban has a big problem with any kind of criticism. Letting Nash go for Dampier was a mistake to this point. It's not a big deal, most GM's make them (Look at Phoenix giving Hardaway and Gugliatta big deals). But you can't really learn from your mistakes if you never think you made any.

The end result is that he is a columnist and will make conclusions that don't pan out (Heck, Gammons is like 2 for 20 on trades to this point). But that doesn't mean he isn't gathering facts accurately. It just reads like sour grapes by Cuban because of what Nash (and Dampier) have done so far and the criticism he's gotten.

rkmsuf · 01-28-2005, 12:07 PM

I think this makes it pretty clear

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"Darko is really one of a kind. He runs the floor, handles the ball, shoots an NBA three and plays with his back to the basket. So you can slot him at the 3, 4 or 5. Okay, a few other guys can do that, too, but what sets Darko apart is his toughness in the post ... Fact is, Darko plays in attack mode at both ends of the floor. The more you push, the more he pushes back."

-- ESPN's Chad Ford on NBA Draft prospect Darko Milicic, in the June 23rd, 2003 issue of ESPN the Magazine

Subby · 01-28-2005, 12:19 PM

Aside from Kevin Pelton, Chad Ford is the best NBA writer working these days...

Arles · 01-28-2005, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

I think this makes it pretty clear

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"Darko is really one of a kind. He runs the floor, handles the ball, shoots an NBA three and plays with his back to the basket. So you can slot him at the 3, 4 or 5. Okay, a few other guys can do that, too, but what sets Darko apart is his toughness in the post ... Fact is, Darko plays in attack mode at both ends of the floor. The more you push, the more he pushes back."

-- ESPN's Chad Ford on NBA Draft prospect Darko Milicic, in the June 23rd, 2003 issue of ESPN the Magazine

I challenge you to find one draft analyst that has never made a mistake. Chad Ford is a columnist and, as such, provides his opinion on issues. Many times they will not pan out but that does not mean he is sloppy. Given Darko went No. 2 overall, I would think that many other NBA executives agreed with Ford's stance.

rkmsuf · 01-28-2005, 12:23 PM

Ok take it easy. I just thought that was a humorous analysis.

01-25-2005, 11:42 PM	#6
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	I like Ford becaue he loves Joe Dumars and the Pistons. He also loves Darko. Yay Darko! Yay Chad! __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).

01-26-2005, 08:16 AM	#7
Samdari Roster Filler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Cicero	I read Ford all the time and have always thought he was the best NBA writer. I'd take him over DA in a second. __________________ http://www.nateandellie.net Now featuring twice the babies for the same low price!

01-26-2005, 08:22 AM	#8
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	I don't follow the NBA, so I don't even know who Chad Ford is, but I have the same question for some guy named Jerry Crasnick for baseball - who is he and why would I pay for Insider to read what he has to say? Rob Neyer, I've heard of. But their only other baseball insider is some guy with no name recognition at all. Makes no sense to me. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

01-26-2005, 08:42 AM	#9
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	For what it is worth, I subscribe to ESPN Insider and think it is worth it. It comes with a year's subscription to ESPN the Magazine, which is not great, but is weekly and has some reasonably substantial (re: long) articles. For someone like me that no longer subscribes to SI or TSN, it is decent. I like being able to read Neyer, the chat transcripts, Kiper's draft info, and Lemming's recruiting info. I guess it is kind of a good, centralized source of info for someone like me, who is into a lot of sports, but not fanatical about any one sport. I wouldn't subscribe to a Baseball Prospectus, Rivals, or any single-sport site, so this is kind of a good middle ground to me. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

01-26-2005, 09:06 AM	#10
Arles Grey Dog Software Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL	I'm don't have a big opinion on Ford either way, although he did seem to make some sense in his last comment (ie, Cuban saying Nash is too old for a long term deal then he signs Dampier to a similar deal with him being just one year younger than Nash). While I don't think Ford is as good as Aldridge, it seems Cuban has a big problem with any kind of criticism. Letting Nash go for Dampier was a mistake to this point. It's not a big deal, most GM's make them (Look at Phoenix giving Hardaway and Gugliatta big deals). But you can't really learn from your mistakes if you never think you made any. The end result is that he is a columnist and will make conclusions that don't pan out (Heck, Gammons is like 2 for 20 on trades to this point). But that doesn't mean he isn't gathering facts accurately. It just reads like sour grapes by Cuban because of what Nash (and Dampier) have done so far and the criticism he's gotten. __________________ Developer of Bowl Bound College Football http://www.greydogsoftware.com Last edited by Arles : 01-26-2005 at 09:07 AM.

01-25-2005, 09:43 PM	#2
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	wait...there are still people who pay attention to the NBA??

01-25-2005, 09:57 PM	#4
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	true that. and for the record: I've always thought Chad Ford was an idiot, and a joke of an "NBA insider." Then again, most of these "Insider" guys it seems don't know all that much.

01-25-2005, 11:15 PM	#5
Joe Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Minneapolis	he's more of an NBA insider than Steve Young and Michael Irvin are NFL experts.

01-28-2005, 12:07 PM	#11
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	I think this makes it pretty clear --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Darko is really one of a kind. He runs the floor, handles the ball, shoots an NBA three and plays with his back to the basket. So you can slot him at the 3, 4 or 5. Okay, a few other guys can do that, too, but what sets Darko apart is his toughness in the post ... Fact is, Darko plays in attack mode at both ends of the floor. The more you push, the more he pushes back." -- ESPN's Chad Ford on NBA Draft prospect Darko Milicic, in the June 23rd, 2003 issue of ESPN the Magazine __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

01-28-2005, 12:19 PM	#12
Subby lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: sans pants	Aside from Kevin Pelton, Chad Ford is the best NBA writer working these days... __________________ Superman was flying around and saw Wonder Woman getting a tan in the nude on her balcony. Superman said I going to hit that real fast. So he flys down toward Wonder Woman to hit it and their is a loud scream. The Invincible Man scream what just hit me in the ass!!!!! I do shit, I take pictures, I write about it: chrisshue.com

01-28-2005, 12:23 PM	#14
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	Ok take it easy. I just thought that was a humorous analysis. __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

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