FOF 5.1c Patch (1/31/2K5)

Kozure · 01-31-2005, 10:34 PM

Looks like there is a new patch out...anyone try it? Know anything about it? Im stuck at work.

sovereignstar · 01-31-2005, 10:36 PM

http://www.solecismic.com/support/f2004.php

The following items were fixed or added for version 5.1c of Front Office Football 2004 (the patch also includes all fixes from earlier versions):

1) Addressed some issues with the ViaTech electronic licensing, as a handful of people had run into a serious error that affected their saved universes. We switched to using their most recent release of the licensing software. This is the reason for the patch.

2) Cleaned up a couple of very minor issues with multi-player play, including no longer giving people the ability to make inactive a holdout player, and properly declining a contract renegotiation offer when the offer doesn't save cap room and the result remains that the owner is over the salary cap.

3) The scout's future estimate of a player from the recommendation screen is now consistent with other estimates in the game.

4) A tweak to the AI for valuing a contract offer, so that large jumps in the salary offered no longer carry any weight (they know they'll never see that money).

5) During training camp of a multi-player game, the game now properly assesses which teams are controlled by the AI and may want to make position switches and game plan changes.

6) Added most (just about all that seemed non-forged) customer names to the last names file. Edited the first names file. Tweaked the game logic to use rare first names more frequently. Please do not make requests or ask questions about the names file. This is something we do infrequently, and as a thank you for our loyal customers. But it's not an exact science here.

Abe Sargent · 01-31-2005, 10:36 PM

sounds of everyone scrambling over to solecismic and seeing what's going on...

-Anxiety

Easy Mac · 01-31-2005, 10:36 PM

The following items were fixed or added for version 5.1c of Front Office Football 2004 (the patch also includes all fixes from earlier versions):

1) Addressed some issues with the ViaTech electronic licensing, as a handful of people had run into a serious error that affected their saved universes. We switched to using their most recent release of the licensing software. This is the reason for the patch.

2) Cleaned up a couple of very minor issues with multi-player play, including no longer giving people the ability to make inactive a holdout player, and properly declining a contract renegotiation offer when the offer doesn't save cap room and the result remains that the owner is over the salary cap.

3) The scout's future estimate of a player from the recommendation screen is now consistent with other estimates in the game.

4) A tweak to the AI for valuing a contract offer, so that large jumps in the salary offered no longer carry any weight (they know they'll never see that money).

5) During training camp of a multi-player game, the game now properly assesses which teams are controlled by the AI and may want to make position switches and game plan changes.

6) Added most (just about all that seemed non-forged) customer names to the last names file. Edited the first names file. Tweaked the game logic to use rare first names more frequently. Please do not make requests or ask questions about the names file. This is something we do infrequently, and as a thank you for our loyal customers. But it's not an exact science here.

Easy Mac · 01-31-2005, 10:37 PM

damn you Sov.

And I'll get it whenever I can get some highspeed internet.

DaddyTorgo · 01-31-2005, 10:38 PM

wow folks. the man has a point. The website says
We updated the game for the 2004 season, free of charge to all existing customers, releasing version 5.1c on January 31, 2005. You can download the update from the support area of our web site.

Patch Info:

Front Office Football 2005

The following items were fixed or added for version 5.1c of Front Office Football 2004 (the patch also includes all fixes from earlier versions):

1) Addressed some issues with the ViaTech electronic licensing, as a handful of people had run into a serious error that affected their saved universes. We switched to using their most recent release of the licensing software. This is the reason for the patch.

2) Cleaned up a couple of very minor issues with multi-player play, including no longer giving people the ability to make inactive a holdout player, and properly declining a contract renegotiation offer when the offer doesn't save cap room and the result remains that the owner is over the salary cap.

3) The scout's future estimate of a player from the recommendation screen is now consistent with other estimates in the game.

4) A tweak to the AI for valuing a contract offer, so that large jumps in the salary offered no longer carry any weight (they know they'll never see that money).

5) During training camp of a multi-player game, the game now properly assesses which teams are controlled by the AI and may want to make position switches and game plan changes.

6) Added most (just about all that seemed non-forged) customer names to the last names file. Edited the first names file. Tweaked the game logic to use rare first names more frequently. Please do not make requests or ask questions about the names file. This is something we do infrequently, and as a thank you for our loyal customers. But it's not an exact science here.

DaddyTorgo · 01-31-2005, 10:38 PM

dola

SOB....all you fast typers!!!

Joe · 01-31-2005, 10:40 PM

and no announcement? Skydog is slipping.

Kozure · 01-31-2005, 10:41 PM

I think it just came within the hour..dont think Skydog could predict a 11 p.m. EST patch.

Seems like the patch is more to fix minor technical flaws rather than major gameplay issues....

I wish linebackers could get more sacks again!!!!

Limiting their rushing ability has ripped apart one of my multiplayer teams that used 3-4 and had below average d-line.

Pyser · 01-31-2005, 10:41 PM

incredible. the man never stops! and i thank him.

DaddyTorgo · 01-31-2005, 10:42 PM

sneaky sneaky. I wonder when Jim updated the webpage. It'd be interesting to know...to see how long it took someone to notice

.

Fonzie · 01-31-2005, 10:43 PM

*head explodes*

Kozure · 01-31-2005, 10:43 PM

I didn't see it first. I have to give credit to Maddmic in my league (RNFL).

Kozure · 01-31-2005, 10:57 PM

Yeah, Jim dedication to this game is great!!

jbmagic · 01-31-2005, 11:14 PM

wow

what a surprise.

this is one of the best sports sim i ever bought. Jim has excellent support for his game.

MizzouRah · 01-31-2005, 11:20 PM

Quite an excellent find Kozure! Although this means, reshack time again.

Thanks,

Todd

I smell another TCY patch?

Kozure · 01-31-2005, 11:24 PM

Many developers wouldn't make many changes to gameplay once the game is released. Jim has shown he is way ahead of the curve when it comes to taking care of his customers. Shows he cares about the game as much as we do.

cthomer5000 · 01-31-2005, 11:25 PM

thank you once again!

Vinatieri for Prez · 02-01-2005, 01:59 AM

4) A tweak to the AI for valuing a contract offer, so that large jumps in the salary offered no longer carry any weight (they know they'll never see that money).

I think the above is interesting. He does not say "carries less weight," but instead says doesn't carry "any weight." I think this is probably somewhat significant. It changes any kind of strategy with backloading at all.

Now when can we add player of the WEEK awards to the player card (rather than just player of the game).

Edit: my use of the terms "probably somewhat significant." What the f##% does that mean?

Ben E Lou · 02-01-2005, 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George W Bush

and no announcement? Skydog is ~~slipping.~~ sleeping.

Fixed it for ya. I DO have to sleep, you know.

Ben E Lou · 02-01-2005, 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solecismic Web Site

Front Office Football 2005

Typo, or a slip-up.

cthomer5000 · 02-01-2005, 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyDog

Typo, or a slip-up.

That was the thing that caught my atttention first as well, and i was surprised no one else mentioned it. I don't know what to make of it.

Ben E Lou · 02-01-2005, 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cthomer5000

That was the thing that caught my atttention first as well, and i was surprised no one else mentioned it. I don't know what to make of it.

I'm thinking typo. I just wanted to have some fun with the conspiracy theorists.

Northwood_DK · 02-01-2005, 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyDog

Typo, or a slip-up.

Definitely typo.

It was suppose to say SI Games Front Office Manager 2005.

Drool......

Franklinnoble · 02-01-2005, 06:53 AM

Fix #1 was related to what killed my dynasty game.

Words cannot express how amazed I am that this actually got patched. I've said it before and I'll say it again - I'm a Solecismic customer for life. Jim's next game could be Front Office Colonic for all I care, and I'd pay to pre-order a copy.

gottimd · 02-01-2005, 06:54 AM

Or he is patching old versions?

gstelmack · 02-01-2005, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

5) During training camp of a multi-player game, the game now properly assesses which teams are controlled by the AI and may want to make position switches and game plan changes.

Yippee! No more looking over my shoulder when running the TC turn!

JeeberD · 02-01-2005, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

6) Added most (just about all that seemed non-forged) customer names to the last names file. Edited the first names file. Tweaked the game logic to use rare first names more frequently. Please do not make requests or ask questions about the names file. This is something we do infrequently, and as a thank you for our loyal customers. But it's not an exact science here.

You mean that I might actually see an Eckberg or two in the game now?!?!? Hallalujah!!!

Eaglesfan27 · 02-01-2005, 11:01 AM

All of these changes are great, but I'm particularly excited about #4

thealmighty · 02-01-2005, 12:17 PM

Which files does one need to save to not need to redo the settings for colors and so forth- or do you just have to redo them again each patch?

or is this a stupid question

mhass · 02-01-2005, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sovereignstar

http://www.solecismic.com/support/f2004.php

6) Added most (just about all that seemed non-forged) customer names to the last names file. Edited the first names file. Tweaked the game logic to use rare first names more frequently. Please do not make requests or ask questions about the names file. This is something we do infrequently, and as a thank you for our loyal customers. But it's not an exact science here. [/i]

Talk about customer focused. Let me know when one of you shows up in Madden, NFL2k5, etc. Jim rules.

Cuckoo · 02-01-2005, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thealmighty

Which files does one need to save to not need to redo the settings for colors and so forth- or do you just have to redo them again each patch?

or is this a stupid question

Any logos or anything you added, you'll have to redo each time you patch. It's the same for custom graphics or settings with ResHacker. The team names should remain as should the color settings that apply to those teams.

TazFTW · 02-01-2005, 03:44 PM

Quote:

6) Added most (just about all that seemed non-forged) customer names to the last names file. Edited the first names file. Tweaked the game logic to use rare first names more frequently. Please do not make requests or ask questions about the names file. This is something we do infrequently, and as a thank you for our loyal customers. But it's not an exact science here.

Yay, my name is in there. Finally, now the NFL will get the infusion of chinese talent that its been sorely lacking.

maximus · 02-01-2005, 05:03 PM

I don't mean to be a noob here but Jim said that "The patch will not harm careers started with version 5.0" however, so my question is will the new patch take affect in my career still? Or do I have to re-install the game and start over.

Thanks.

VPI97 · 02-01-2005, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maximus

I don't mean to be a noob here but Jim said that "The patch will not harm careers started with version 5.0" however, so my question is will the new patch take affect in my career still? Or do I have to re-install the game and start over.

Thanks.

No need to start over. Just install the patch, start the game, and continue your career.

MizzouRah · 02-01-2005, 05:21 PM

Your career will be fine maximus, although I would suggest installing it right before you hit "end season".

Todd

maximus · 02-02-2005, 01:20 PM

Thanks guys.

jcwean · 02-04-2005, 08:32 AM

i started a new league today and found that the rosters are tweaked. mandzuk (griese) now the starter in tampa. vernon (portis) now in washington. nice.

thanks jim!

jbmagic · 02-04-2005, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcwean

i started a new league today and found that the rosters are tweaked. mandzuk (griese) now the starter in tampa. vernon (portis) now in washington. nice.

thanks jim!

if that correct, is there a real nfl player roster out for 5.1c too?

Vinatieri for Prez · 02-05-2005, 01:20 AM

Nah, those changes were already in place with the last roster file that came out in December I think.

Sorry to burst your bubble, jc.

MikeVic · 02-05-2005, 11:21 PM

So I can see a player in the draft with my actual last name?

JeeberD · 02-06-2005, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeVic

So I can see a player in the draft with my actual last name?

It took me about 20 resets, but I found one with my last name!!!!

MikeVic · 02-07-2005, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeeberD

It took me about 20 resets, but I found one with my last name!!!!

Are you simming a season, then check draft.. then re-sim the first season if there isn't a player with your last name?

JeeberD · 02-07-2005, 10:08 AM

I actually had a season that I had saved right before the draft was generated (staff hiring stage), so I kept generating new drafts and when I saw that my name wasn't in there, I just reloaded the same game...

Ben E Lou · 02-16-2005, 03:06 AM

Bump...un-stick....archive.

01-31-2005, 10:36 PM	#2
sovereignstar Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004	http://www.solecismic.com/support/f2004.php The following items were fixed or added for version 5.1c of Front Office Football 2004 (the patch also includes all fixes from earlier versions): 1) Addressed some issues with the ViaTech electronic licensing, as a handful of people had run into a serious error that affected their saved universes. We switched to using their most recent release of the licensing software. This is the reason for the patch. 2) Cleaned up a couple of very minor issues with multi-player play, including no longer giving people the ability to make inactive a holdout player, and properly declining a contract renegotiation offer when the offer doesn't save cap room and the result remains that the owner is over the salary cap. 3) The scout's future estimate of a player from the recommendation screen is now consistent with other estimates in the game. 4) A tweak to the AI for valuing a contract offer, so that large jumps in the salary offered no longer carry any weight (they know they'll never see that money). 5) During training camp of a multi-player game, the game now properly assesses which teams are controlled by the AI and may want to make position switches and game plan changes. 6) Added most (just about all that seemed non-forged) customer names to the last names file. Edited the first names file. Tweaked the game logic to use rare first names more frequently. Please do not make requests or ask questions about the names file. This is something we do infrequently, and as a thank you for our loyal customers. But it's not an exact science here. Last edited by sovereignstar : 01-31-2005 at 10:36 PM.

01-31-2005, 10:36 PM	#3
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	sounds of everyone scrambling over to solecismic and seeing what's going on... -Anxiety __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

01-31-2005, 11:20 PM	#16
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Quite an excellent find Kozure! Although this means, reshack time again. Thanks, Todd I smell another TCY patch? Last edited by MizzouRah : 01-31-2005 at 11:21 PM.

02-01-2005, 01:59 AM	#19
Vinatieri for Prez College Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle	4) A tweak to the AI for valuing a contract offer, so that large jumps in the salary offered no longer carry any weight (they know they'll never see that money). I think the above is interesting. He does not say "carries less weight," but instead says doesn't carry "any weight." I think this is probably somewhat significant. It changes any kind of strategy with backloading at all. Now when can we add player of the WEEK awards to the player card (rather than just player of the game). Edit: my use of the terms "probably somewhat significant." What the f##% does that mean? Last edited by Vinatieri for Prez : 02-01-2005 at 02:03 AM.

02-01-2005, 06:54 AM	#26
gottimd Dearly Missed (9/25/77-12/23/08) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: DC Suburbs	Or he is patching old versions? __________________ NAFL New Orleans Saints GM/Co-Commish MP Career Record: 114-85 NAFL Super Bowl XI Champs In memory of Gavin Anthony: 7/22/08-7/26/08

01-31-2005, 10:36 PM	#4
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	The following items were fixed or added for version 5.1c of Front Office Football 2004 (the patch also includes all fixes from earlier versions): 1) Addressed some issues with the ViaTech electronic licensing, as a handful of people had run into a serious error that affected their saved universes. We switched to using their most recent release of the licensing software. This is the reason for the patch. 2) Cleaned up a couple of very minor issues with multi-player play, including no longer giving people the ability to make inactive a holdout player, and properly declining a contract renegotiation offer when the offer doesn't save cap room and the result remains that the owner is over the salary cap. 3) The scout's future estimate of a player from the recommendation screen is now consistent with other estimates in the game. 4) A tweak to the AI for valuing a contract offer, so that large jumps in the salary offered no longer carry any weight (they know they'll never see that money). 5) During training camp of a multi-player game, the game now properly assesses which teams are controlled by the AI and may want to make position switches and game plan changes. 6) Added most (just about all that seemed non-forged) customer names to the last names file. Edited the first names file. Tweaked the game logic to use rare first names more frequently. Please do not make requests or ask questions about the names file. This is something we do infrequently, and as a thank you for our loyal customers. But it's not an exact science here.

01-31-2005, 10:37 PM	#5
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	damn you Sov. And I'll get it whenever I can get some highspeed internet.

01-31-2005, 10:38 PM	#6
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	wow folks. the man has a point. The website says We updated the game for the 2004 season, free of charge to all existing customers, releasing version 5.1c on January 31, 2005. You can download the update from the support area of our web site. Patch Info: Front Office Football 2005 The following items were fixed or added for version 5.1c of Front Office Football 2004 (the patch also includes all fixes from earlier versions): 1) Addressed some issues with the ViaTech electronic licensing, as a handful of people had run into a serious error that affected their saved universes. We switched to using their most recent release of the licensing software. This is the reason for the patch. 2) Cleaned up a couple of very minor issues with multi-player play, including no longer giving people the ability to make inactive a holdout player, and properly declining a contract renegotiation offer when the offer doesn't save cap room and the result remains that the owner is over the salary cap. 3) The scout's future estimate of a player from the recommendation screen is now consistent with other estimates in the game. 4) A tweak to the AI for valuing a contract offer, so that large jumps in the salary offered no longer carry any weight (they know they'll never see that money). 5) During training camp of a multi-player game, the game now properly assesses which teams are controlled by the AI and may want to make position switches and game plan changes. 6) Added most (just about all that seemed non-forged) customer names to the last names file. Edited the first names file. Tweaked the game logic to use rare first names more frequently. Please do not make requests or ask questions about the names file. This is something we do infrequently, and as a thank you for our loyal customers. But it's not an exact science here.

01-31-2005, 10:40 PM	#8
Joe Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Minneapolis	and no announcement? Skydog is slipping.

01-31-2005, 10:41 PM	#9
Kozure High School JV Join Date: Apr 2004	I think it just came within the hour..dont think Skydog could predict a 11 p.m. EST patch. Seems like the patch is more to fix minor technical flaws rather than major gameplay issues.... I wish linebackers could get more sacks again!!!! Limiting their rushing ability has ripped apart one of my multiplayer teams that used 3-4 and had below average d-line.

01-31-2005, 10:41 PM	#10
Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	incredible. the man never stops! and i thank him.

01-31-2005, 10:42 PM	#11
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	sneaky sneaky. I wonder when Jim updated the webpage. It'd be interesting to know...to see how long it took someone to notice .

01-31-2005, 10:43 PM	#12
Fonzie Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Illinois	head explodes

01-31-2005, 10:57 PM	#14
Kozure High School JV Join Date: Apr 2004	Yeah, Jim dedication to this game is great!!

01-31-2005, 11:14 PM	#15
jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	wow what a surprise. this is one of the best sports sim i ever bought. Jim has excellent support for his game.

01-31-2005, 11:24 PM	#17
Kozure High School JV Join Date: Apr 2004	Many developers wouldn't make many changes to gameplay once the game is released. Jim has shown he is way ahead of the curve when it comes to taking care of his customers. Shows he cares about the game as much as we do.

02-01-2005, 06:53 AM	#25
Franklinnoble Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Placerville, CA	Fix #1 was related to what killed my dynasty game. Words cannot express how amazed I am that this actually got patched. I've said it before and I'll say it again - I'm a Solecismic customer for life. Jim's next game could be Front Office Colonic for all I care, and I'd pay to pre-order a copy.

02-01-2005, 11:01 AM	#29
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	All of these changes are great, but I'm particularly excited about #4 __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

02-01-2005, 12:17 PM	#30
thealmighty Pro Starter Join Date: May 2003 Location: heaven	Which files does one need to save to not need to redo the settings for colors and so forth- or do you just have to redo them again each patch? or is this a stupid question __________________ Check out The Unofficial FOFC Movie Guide Here

02-01-2005, 05:03 PM	#34
maximus Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Where the system is screwed	I don't mean to be a noob here but Jim said that "The patch will not harm careers started with version 5.0" however, so my question is will the new patch take affect in my career still? Or do I have to re-install the game and start over. Thanks.

02-01-2005, 05:21 PM	#36
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Your career will be fine maximus, although I would suggest installing it right before you hit "end season". Todd

02-02-2005, 01:20 PM	#37
maximus Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Where the system is screwed	Thanks guys.

02-04-2005, 08:32 AM	#38
jcwean n00b Join Date: Sep 2004	i started a new league today and found that the rosters are tweaked. mandzuk (griese) now the starter in tampa. vernon (portis) now in washington. nice. thanks jim!

02-05-2005, 01:20 AM	#40
Vinatieri for Prez College Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle	Nah, those changes were already in place with the last roster file that came out in December I think. Sorry to burst your bubble, jc.

02-05-2005, 11:21 PM	#41
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	So I can see a player in the draft with my actual last name?

02-07-2005, 10:08 AM	#44
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	I actually had a season that I had saved right before the draft was generated (staff hiring stage), so I kept generating new drafts and when I saw that my name wasn't in there, I just reloaded the same game... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

02-16-2005, 03:06 AM	#45
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	Bump...un-stick....archive. __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

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