Intel Processors

SunDancer · 03-19-2005, 12:45 PM

Looking at getting the new laptop today, Dell offers "high-end" laptops with Intel® Pentium® M 770 Processor (2.13GHz/533MHz FSB)/Intel® Pentium® M 760 Processor (2GHz/533MHz FSB) ? Are these good processors?

Mr. Wednesday · 03-19-2005, 03:46 PM

The Pentium M is generally a very good processor -- it's more like the Athlon than the P4 in that it gets more done at a slower clock speed, and AFAIK it's believed that Intel will be transitioning their primary processor line to something based on the M in the future with the P4 design appearing to max out with the current generation of processors.

I don't know where those specific processors fall in the lineup.

SunDancer · 03-19-2005, 07:49 PM

Is it better then the P4?

Danny · 03-19-2005, 07:55 PM

Pentium M uses a lot less power and will run cooler. It was specifically designed for the laptop as opposed to the pentium 4 which is a desktop processor ported to a laptop. If you can afford it, I would recommend the Pentium M.

SunDancer · 03-19-2005, 08:02 PM

Intel® Pentium® M 770 Processor (2.13GHz/533MHz FSB)/Intel® Pentium® M 760 Processor (2GHz/533MHz FSB)

Does it run as quickly as the P4's with the 3.2-3.6 ranges?

lytic · 03-19-2005, 08:06 PM

This is my laptop... I absolutly love it.

SunDancer · 03-19-2005, 08:10 PM

Ferrari fan?

lytic · 03-19-2005, 08:12 PM

No... gamer fan.

lytic · 03-19-2005, 08:16 PM

dola

Wanted - AMD (Check)
Bonus - 64-bit (check)
Wanted - ATI video card (Check)
Bonus - 128MB of Video RAM (Check)
Wanted - 11.g (check)
Wanted - DVD Burner (Check)

On top of it all, it has a car paint finish and looks really nice. It came with it's own matching USB mini-mouse.
Screw Intel, go AMD

SunDancer · 03-19-2005, 08:19 PM

Yeah, it's not bad for the price. Just asked if you were a Ferrari fan because it's Ferrari-branded.

I'm looking at a 3.2Ghz P4 processor, 2GB RAM and a 80GM hard drive. Just want to check out this other processor first, and would love to run all of Europe in FM2005 (85 leagues in 34 countries) if I could.

Danny · 03-19-2005, 08:24 PM

Let me ask you this, are you going to use this laptop in place of a desktop or are you going to travel with it some?

dawgfan · 03-19-2005, 08:26 PM

I think you want to be careful when you're considering getting a laptop with a desktop processor - there are some legitimate concerns about greatly increasing your risk of mechanical breakdown by doing so due to the higher heat output in such a confined space.

For reliability reasons, I think you should strongly consider the laptop-specific processors that run cooler.

Danny · 03-19-2005, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dawgfan

I think you want to be careful when you're considering getting a laptop with a desktop processor - there are some legitimate concerns about greatly increasing your risk of mechanical breakdown by doing so due to the higher heat output in such a confined space.

For reliability reasons, I think you should strongly consider the laptop-specific processors that run cooler.

I completely agree. This is why I went with this model http://hardware.gamespot.com/Acer-As...LMi-4323-O-1-3 over something like the Ferrari. There have been many reports of issues with the Ferrari model.

SunDancer · 03-19-2005, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Drickman

Let me ask you this, are you going to use this laptop in place of a desktop or are you going to travel with it some?

It will be in place of the desktop. I will take it to school with me, and home, and if I go on vacation (which is rare), I will carry it.

I'm just looking for something that can compete with the P4 3.2-3.6 range.

Edited: I want something that will be good for three-maybe four years (after college and to whereever I relocate). I am huge on FM2005, and want a great system to run as many leagues as possible, and do it quickly.

Danny · 03-19-2005, 08:36 PM

There have been studies and it is generally said that a Pentium M performs at the equivalent of 1.5 the speed. So, a 2.1 Pentium M would be the equivalent of a 3.15 Pentium 4. I'd strongly recommomend the pentium M if you can afford it. Like I said, it was specifically designed for laptop technology. You will get more than two times the battery life and it will run much much cooler.

SunDancer · 03-19-2005, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Drickman

There have been studies and it is generally said that a Pentium M performs at the equivalent of 1.5 the speed. So, a 2.1 Pentium M would be the equivalent of a 3.15 Pentium 4. I'd strongly recommomend the pentium M if you can afford it. Like I said, it was specifically designed for laptop technology. You will get more than two times the battery life and it will run much much cooler.

So you double the GHz of the M processor, and that would equal the P4 speed?

Danny · 03-19-2005, 08:52 PM

Not double it, multiply it by 1.5.

SunDancer · 03-19-2005, 09:01 PM

Intel® Pentium® M 760 Processor (2GHz/533MHz FSB)
2Yr Ltd Warranty, 2Yr At-Home Service, and 2Yr Technical Support
1GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz 2 Dimm
80GB Hard Drive

Something I am figuring out..

Are the Athlon processors good? I do not know much about them.

Basically, I'll spell it out. I am pretty much using it for the basic internet and word processing services, and FM 2005 (and the netx version

).

Danny · 03-19-2005, 09:16 PM

I would definitely get a pentium M if the price difference isn't a concern. AMD is good, but like Pentium 4, the processors weren't designed for a laptop.

finkenst · 03-19-2005, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Drickman

I would definitely get a pentium M if the price difference isn't a concern. AMD is good, but like Pentium 4, the processors weren't designed for a laptop.

This is patently false.

AMD has a line of processors designed for laptops.

I have one.

SunDancer · 03-19-2005, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Drickman

I would definitely get a pentium M if the price difference isn't a concern. AMD is good, but like Pentium 4, the processors weren't designed for a laptop.

Yeah, I ask if Athlon had a "competitor" for the M. I might go with the system above. I'm not sure if you play FM 2005, but it should not be a problem? I am trying to decide wheather to go for 2GB RAM. It's pretty pricey upgrade at $700-some bucks.

finkenst · 03-19-2005, 09:24 PM

hxxp://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118,00.html

Danny · 03-19-2005, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finkenst

This is patently false.

AMD has a line of processors designed for laptops.

I have one.

Sorry, you are correct. When I shopped for my laptop, AMD did not have such a processor. Both AMD and Pentium had an adapted version of their desktop processors for the laptops. Intel had Mobile Pentium 4 and Athlon had Mobile AMD 64. The Pentium M's were fairly new then.

finkenst · 03-19-2005, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Drickman

Sorry, you are correct. When I shopped for my laptop, AMD did not have such a processor. Both AMD and Pentium had an adapted version of their desktop processors for the laptops. Intel had Mobile Pentium 4 and Athlon had Mobile AMD 64. The Pentium M's were fairly new then.

no worries...

I'm not a CPU bigot. I go for performance and value.. my desktop is an AMD (value for performance at the time), my linux box/router is a celery 366 (this is way old, and was value for what it was going to do), my laptop is an AMD athlon 64 3400+.. it runs fm2005 (wwsm2005, really)...

03-19-2005, 03:46 PM	#2
Mr. Wednesday Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South Bend, IN	The Pentium M is generally a very good processor -- it's more like the Athlon than the P4 in that it gets more done at a slower clock speed, and AFAIK it's believed that Intel will be transitioning their primary processor line to something based on the M in the future with the P4 design appearing to max out with the current generation of processors. I don't know where those specific processors fall in the lineup. __________________ Hattrick - Brays Bayou FC (70854) / USA III.4 Hockey Arena - Houston Aeros / USA II.1 Thanks to my FOFC Hattrick supporters - Blackout, Brillig, kingfc22, RPI-fan, Rich1033, antbacker, One_to7, ur_land, KevinNU7, and TonyR (PM me if you support me and I've missed you)

03-19-2005, 08:06 PM	#6
lytic College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: back in Nebraska (for a couple years)	This is my laptop... I absolutly love it. __________________ Hattrick stuff: SouthPark Cows' General Manager (Est Season 16) U20 South Korea Trainer (Season 19-22) Hattrick Moderator (since Season 22) Evil Gargs' Hater (since Season 18) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-- My Pro Soccer Story

03-19-2005, 08:12 PM	#8
lytic College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: back in Nebraska (for a couple years)	No... gamer fan. __________________ Hattrick stuff: SouthPark Cows' General Manager (Est Season 16) U20 South Korea Trainer (Season 19-22) Hattrick Moderator (since Season 22) Evil Gargs' Hater (since Season 18) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-- My Pro Soccer Story

03-19-2005, 08:16 PM	#9
lytic College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: back in Nebraska (for a couple years)	dola Wanted - AMD (Check) Bonus - 64-bit (check) Wanted - ATI video card (Check) Bonus - 128MB of Video RAM (Check) Wanted - 11.g (check) Wanted - DVD Burner (Check) On top of it all, it has a car paint finish and looks really nice. It came with it's own matching USB mini-mouse. Screw Intel, go AMD __________________ Hattrick stuff: SouthPark Cows' General Manager (Est Season 16) U20 South Korea Trainer (Season 19-22) Hattrick Moderator (since Season 22) Evil Gargs' Hater (since Season 18) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-- My Pro Soccer Story Last edited by lytic : 03-19-2005 at 08:16 PM.

03-19-2005, 09:01 PM	#18
SunDancer College Benchwarmer Join Date: Sep 2002	Intel® Pentium® M 760 Processor (2GHz/533MHz FSB) 2Yr Ltd Warranty, 2Yr At-Home Service, and 2Yr Technical Support 1GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz 2 Dimm 80GB Hard Drive Something I am figuring out.. Are the Athlon processors good? I do not know much about them. Basically, I'll spell it out. I am pretty much using it for the basic internet and word processing services, and FM 2005 (and the netx version ). Last edited by SunDancer : 03-19-2005 at 09:03 PM.

03-19-2005, 07:49 PM	#3
SunDancer College Benchwarmer Join Date: Sep 2002	Is it better then the P4?

03-19-2005, 07:55 PM	#4
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Pentium M uses a lot less power and will run cooler. It was specifically designed for the laptop as opposed to the pentium 4 which is a desktop processor ported to a laptop. If you can afford it, I would recommend the Pentium M.

03-19-2005, 08:02 PM	#5
SunDancer College Benchwarmer Join Date: Sep 2002	Intel® Pentium® M 770 Processor (2.13GHz/533MHz FSB)/Intel® Pentium® M 760 Processor (2GHz/533MHz FSB) Does it run as quickly as the P4's with the 3.2-3.6 ranges?

03-19-2005, 08:10 PM	#7
SunDancer College Benchwarmer Join Date: Sep 2002	Ferrari fan?

03-19-2005, 08:19 PM	#10
SunDancer College Benchwarmer Join Date: Sep 2002	Yeah, it's not bad for the price. Just asked if you were a Ferrari fan because it's Ferrari-branded. I'm looking at a 3.2Ghz P4 processor, 2GB RAM and a 80GM hard drive. Just want to check out this other processor first, and would love to run all of Europe in FM2005 (85 leagues in 34 countries) if I could.

03-19-2005, 08:24 PM	#11
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Let me ask you this, are you going to use this laptop in place of a desktop or are you going to travel with it some?

03-19-2005, 08:26 PM	#12
dawgfan Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Seattle	I think you want to be careful when you're considering getting a laptop with a desktop processor - there are some legitimate concerns about greatly increasing your risk of mechanical breakdown by doing so due to the higher heat output in such a confined space. For reliability reasons, I think you should strongly consider the laptop-specific processors that run cooler.

03-19-2005, 08:36 PM	#15
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	There have been studies and it is generally said that a Pentium M performs at the equivalent of 1.5 the speed. So, a 2.1 Pentium M would be the equivalent of a 3.15 Pentium 4. I'd strongly recommomend the pentium M if you can afford it. Like I said, it was specifically designed for laptop technology. You will get more than two times the battery life and it will run much much cooler.

03-19-2005, 08:52 PM	#17
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Not double it, multiply it by 1.5.

03-19-2005, 09:16 PM	#19
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I would definitely get a pentium M if the price difference isn't a concern. AMD is good, but like Pentium 4, the processors weren't designed for a laptop.

03-19-2005, 09:24 PM	#22
finkenst College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: usually sunny SoCal	hxxp://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118,00.html

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