Seattle looking to trade Shaun Alexander for a second rounder.

maximus · 04-15-2005, 04:18 PM

Actually, Indy is also looking to trade their RB (E.James) for a second rounder.

I don't have a link yet but I am hearing that the Chicago Bears are interested in Shaun Alexander and may trade that 2nd rounder and keep the 1st rounder to draft a WR. Some Bears fans are actually upset about this and are saying that TJ should have another shot. Me, well - I say TJ already had a chance to prove himself the last 5 years. The statistics speak for themselves. I say the Bears should do it.

Shaun Alexander drafted in 2000 Round 1 - 19 overall pick:

Thomas Jones drafted in 2000 Round 1 - 7th overall pick:

Ksyrup · 04-15-2005, 04:19 PM

Indy doesn't have the rights to Alexander.

maximus · 04-15-2005, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Indy doesn't have the rights to Alexander.

Opps, I corrected that.

sabotai · 04-15-2005, 04:25 PM

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I say TJ already had a chance to prove himself the last 5 years. The statistics speak for themselves.

Yeah, but 3 of those were with Arizona. I say he should be given at least that much time after Arizona to undo all the damage that team did to him.

WSUCougar · 04-15-2005, 04:40 PM

The upgrade from Thomas Jones to Shaun Alexander isn't going to push the Bears into the playoffs, in my opinion. The 2nd rounder could be better spent elsewhere.

dawgfan · 04-15-2005, 04:43 PM

The other issue the Bears would have to consider is Alexander's salary. He was franchised because he wants big money and he and the 'Hawks couldn't get a deal done by the franchising deadline.

Alexander is a great back (as is Edgerrin), but there just aren't that many teams in need of a back and with the draft as loaded as it is that's why both are being shopped for 2nd rounders.

Deattribution · 04-15-2005, 04:45 PM

He's a good back - with a great line, give TJ a line with Walter Jones and he'd produce more too.

primelord · 04-15-2005, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by WSUCougar

The upgrade from Thomas Jones to Shaun Alexander isn't going to push the Bears into the playoffs, in my opinion. The 2nd rounder could be better spent elsewhere.

Well assuming Rex Grossman is a passable Qb (I know that is a big assumption) the addition of Shaun Alexander and Braylon Edwards might be enouhg to give them a shot at the playoffs. The NFC North hasn't exactly been playing stellar ball these last couple of years.

Franklinnoble · 04-15-2005, 04:48 PM

I've said it before and I'll say it again... running backs are a dime a dozen, and they're often overrated and overpaid. I think Denver is still the only team to have this figured out.

Deattribution · 04-15-2005, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Franklinnoble

I've said it before and I'll say it again... running backs are a dime a dozen, and they're often overrated and overpaid. I think Denver is still the only team to have this figured out.

I agree, there are very few backs that transcend into someone that is a irreplacable, integral part of the franchise. Barry Sanders was the last one that comes to mind. Curtis Martin is borderline along that level.

maximus · 04-15-2005, 05:01 PM

Well, Shaun is averaging 1,187 yards & 12.5 TD's a season. Thats pretty good if you ask me.

sabotai · 04-15-2005, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by maximus

Well, Shaun is averaging 1,187 yards & 12.5 TD's a season. Thats pretty good if you ask me.

And Jones would have rushed for that many yards if he played all 16 games. Like WSUCougar said, it's not a big enough upgrade to justify a 2nd round pick. That pick would be better served improving the OL for Jones or improving another area of the team.

Desnudo · 04-15-2005, 05:08 PM

I think the Patriots have proven that you don't need a stellar running back to do well. It's a nice to have, but not a requirement.

maximus · 04-15-2005, 05:08 PM

"IF"

I think Shaun could rush for 15,000 in his career.

LastWhiteSoxFanStanding · 04-15-2005, 05:14 PM

They should have never cut Anthony Thomas. Gaining 1000 yards two times in three years with that offense? With those quarterbacks? With that offensive line? The guy should have gone to the pro bowl each year! Yes, that is sort of an exaggeration, but come on, what he did with that support system is pretty amazing.

sabotai · 04-15-2005, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by maximus

"IF"

I think Shaun could rush for 15,000 in his career.

Not with the Bears offense if they don't improve the other positions.

Yeah, I used the word "if" in a point I'm making. How they hell does that automatically make it a bad point?

BigJohn&TheLions · 04-15-2005, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Franklinnoble

I've said it before and I'll say it again... running backs are a dime a dozen, and they're often overrated and overpaid. I think Denver is still the only team to have this figured out.

How do you think Joe Gibbs feels now that there is a market where teams are looking to give away RB's for dryer lint?

Deattribution · 04-15-2005, 07:51 PM

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How do you think Joe Gibbs feels now that there is a market where teams are looking to give away RB's for dryer lint?

The same I'm sure, since they were losing Champ Bailey either way, and the defense was still stellar without him.

Bee · 04-16-2005, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Franklinnoble

I've said it before and I'll say it again... running backs are a dime a dozen, and they're often overrated and overpaid. I think Denver is still the only team to have this figured out.

Actually, I think Seattle has a similar philosophy which is why they are trying to unload the guy since he wants so much money. They did the same with Ahmad Green.

Thomkal · 04-16-2005, 06:48 AM

The Cardinals should be jumping to get either of these guys (or Travis Henry), though I suppose the Seahawks wouldn't trade Alexander to a divisional rival.

Raiders Army · 04-16-2005, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Franklinnoble

I've said it before and I'll say it again... running backs are a dime a dozen, and they're often overrated and overpaid. I think Denver is still the only team to have this figured out.

I think LaDanian Tomlinson is not overrated or overpaid. Denver just had an offensive line that cut blocked, so any back in that "system" was good. (See Atlanta last year to see what the line does for you, i.e. Alex Gibbs)

04-15-2005, 04:19 PM	#2
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Indy doesn't have the rights to Alexander. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

04-15-2005, 04:40 PM	#5
WSUCougar Rider Of Rohan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Port Angeles, WA or Helm's Deep	The upgrade from Thomas Jones to Shaun Alexander isn't going to push the Bears into the playoffs, in my opinion. The 2nd rounder could be better spent elsewhere. __________________ It's not the years...it's the mileage.

04-15-2005, 05:08 PM	#14
maximus Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Where the system is screwed	"IF" I think Shaun could rush for 15,000 in his career. Last edited by maximus : 04-15-2005 at 05:08 PM.

04-15-2005, 04:43 PM	#6
dawgfan Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Seattle	The other issue the Bears would have to consider is Alexander's salary. He was franchised because he wants big money and he and the 'Hawks couldn't get a deal done by the franchising deadline. Alexander is a great back (as is Edgerrin), but there just aren't that many teams in need of a back and with the draft as loaded as it is that's why both are being shopped for 2nd rounders.

04-15-2005, 04:45 PM	#7
Deattribution College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2003	He's a good back - with a great line, give TJ a line with Walter Jones and he'd produce more too.

04-15-2005, 04:48 PM	#9
Franklinnoble Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Placerville, CA	I've said it before and I'll say it again... running backs are a dime a dozen, and they're often overrated and overpaid. I think Denver is still the only team to have this figured out.

04-15-2005, 05:01 PM	#11
maximus Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Where the system is screwed	Well, Shaun is averaging 1,187 yards & 12.5 TD's a season. Thats pretty good if you ask me.

04-15-2005, 05:08 PM	#13
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	I think the Patriots have proven that you don't need a stellar running back to do well. It's a nice to have, but not a requirement.

04-15-2005, 05:14 PM	#15
LastWhiteSoxFanStanding College Starter Join Date: Jun 2003	They should have never cut Anthony Thomas. Gaining 1000 yards two times in three years with that offense? With those quarterbacks? With that offensive line? The guy should have gone to the pro bowl each year! Yes, that is sort of an exaggeration, but come on, what he did with that support system is pretty amazing.

04-16-2005, 06:48 AM	#20
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	The Cardinals should be jumping to get either of these guys (or Travis Henry), though I suppose the Seahawks wouldn't trade Alexander to a divisional rival.

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