OT: SO DAMN AWKWARD

DeToxRox · 04-26-2005, 10:57 AM

Okay before I begin, back story

My old PA English teacher in high school is a great guy. Amazing teacher, and just genuinely funny. His problem was he acted like kids in regards with what he said. He coached girls volleyball and apparently a girl took his jokes the wrong way and he was forced to resign. This was this year.

This leads me to today ..

I am on my way to class when I stop off for Dunkin Donuts. Upon entering I notice a guy staring at me but I don't think too much about it. I order my donuts (three cholcolate w/ sprinkle, pix later) and feel a gaze on me. I see him out of the corner of my eye behind the counter, taking drive thru orders. I finally turn around and look at him and realize it is my former teacher. So, now I am feeling awkward. I don't want to start talking to him thus letting everyone know he is my former teacher, and I figured he wanted it that way since he saw me first and didn't start the conversation. It's obvious he is embarrassed with his new job because of all the support he had, and I feel for him.

But honestly, it has never been more awkward then seeing the best English teacher I've ever had within a year go from teaching me to taking my order.

How else could I have gone about this?

Sharpieman · 04-26-2005, 10:59 AM

That sucks and its sad. Never been in that kind of situation.

DeToxRox · 04-26-2005, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Sharpieman

That sucks and its sad. Never been in that kind of situation.

Indeed. Yeah, I mean people kind of saw it coming because he acted like a kid with students and it cost him, but still, I don't recall any other teacher I've ever had who was as good as him in teaching any class, not just English.

Anthony · 04-26-2005, 11:01 AM

i'm very good with seeing people before they see me, and if i don't want to talk to them i pretend i didn't see them and go on about my business.

in your case since it's obvious you both saw each other i would have said hello and probably said "nice to see you again" and quickly made my exit. i would think you not saying anything made it more awkward. if he didn't want you to see him he would have turned his back to you or something, but since he made it very obvious that he was staring at you he was probably embarassed but still wanted you to acknowledge him.

just my take.

DeToxRox · 04-26-2005, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Hell Atlantic

i'm very good with seeing people before they see me, and if i don't want to talk to them i pretend i didn't see them and go on about my business.

in your case since it's obvious you both saw each other i would have said hello and probably said "nice to see you again" and quickly made my exit. i would think you not saying anything made it more awkward. if he didn't want you to see him he would have turned his back to you or something, but since he made it very obvious that he was staring at you he was probably embarassed but still wanted you to acknowledge him.

just my take.

Yeah. He kind of turned away but it was like in that little phase where you're about to say hello and you think to yourself, "maybe not a good idea?".

It was just a shame.

Anthony · 04-26-2005, 11:16 AM

this is why men should not be the coaches for female teams.

rkmsuf · 04-26-2005, 11:38 AM

Cantstandya.

Did Mr. Hamen give you an atomic wedgie as you departed?

Ksyrup · 04-26-2005, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Hell Atlantic

this is why men should not be the coaches for female teams.

Yup. I try hard never to put myself in a position to be accused of something where it would be her word against mine, and if I really wanted to coach, I'd think long and hard before I took a job coaching a girl's sport. Hell, I even make my wife drive the babysitter home.

CamEdwards · 04-26-2005, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Hell, I even make my wife drive the babysitter home.

But that's so you get to hear about the hot lesbian action that took place, right?

I'm assuming your babysitter's over 18. If not, forget I said anything.

Lathum · 04-26-2005, 11:55 AM

That sucks. With the shrotage of quality teachers we have in this country it is a shame that someone who is seemingly a good teacher should have something like this happen.

cuervo72 · 04-26-2005, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Hell Atlantic

i'm very good with seeing people before they see me

The 'ignore' button, and its applications in the real world...

Ksyrup · 04-26-2005, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CamEdwards

But that's so you get to hear about the hot lesbian action that took place, right?

I'm assuming your babysitter's over 18. If not, forget I said anything.

She was 14 at the time. We haven't had a babysitter that isn't my wife's parents in several years. Interesting story about the babysitter, actually. She was home-schooled, the perfect girl, etc. They put her in public school for high school, and in less than 2 years, she dropped out and got pregnant (by an illegal immigrant, no less). Now they're moving. Obviously, the babysitting gig is kinda over...well, actually, it's just starting, and it don't pay quite what we did!

rkmsuf · 04-26-2005, 12:02 PM

How the heck can you be good at seeing people before they see you?

What is evey minute a covert operation?

Wolfpack · 04-26-2005, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

She was 14 at the time. We haven't had a babysitter that isn't my wife's parents in several years. Interesting story about the babysitter, actually. She was home-schooled, the perfect girl, etc. They put her in public school for high school, and in less than 2 years, she dropped out and got pregnant (by an illegal immigrant, no less). Now they're moving. Obviously, the babysitting gig is kinda over...well, actually, it's just starting, and it don't pay quite what we did!

Thank you for making my mind up for me. My wife and I want to homeschool our daughter (and any future kids), but I had been wondering whether we could or should handle the high-school-level education ourselves. I think I'll find a way to deal with it.

Mustang · 04-26-2005, 12:12 PM

Just out of curiousity, what was the comment the teacher made when he was forced to resign?

"I love the way your tits bounce when you spike, it makes my meat popsicle hard" might have crossed the line... Luckily we don't live in the 70s again.. everything would be sexual harassment in gym class what with the nut hugger shorts, porn moustaches and knee high gym socks..

rkmsuf · 04-26-2005, 12:18 PM

It was a horrible misunderstanding. While leaving practice and rounding up the equipment he called out "Sally, grab my balls."

Bo Jackson's Hip · 04-26-2005, 12:23 PM

I had an ex-brother in law who was forced to resign from his teaching position because one of his buddies sent him an dirty joke chain email. That sounds benign but what happened was that a female student of his was part of that email chain (the friend or my ex bro in law did not send the email to the student). Subsequently the student's mother saw the email and in that one in a million odds happened to notice my brother in law's email address. She then raised holy hell with the school superintendent and even though my ex bro in law did absolutely nothing wrong, they forced him to resign.

Anthony · 04-26-2005, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

How the heck can you be good at seeing people before they see you?

What is evey minute a covert operation?

i live in NYC, not Kansas. everyone is a potential threat. the people who aren't alert at all times are the people you see on the evening news. i look at everyone. every person. of course i'm also checking out the ladies, trying to see what hot piece of ass/set of jubblies i can look at next, but yeah, i see everyone. and i see them before they see me because i'm actively looking at everyone, whereas the other person might be concentrating on something else.

i very much hate small talk, i can't stand it. i don't care about anyone outside of my circle. i don't care how your family is doing, how your weekend was or how your wife or kids are. i don't care. so rather than put myself in a situation where i have to ask the typical "small talk questions" i try to avoid it by making sure i don't run into anyone i don't want to talk to.

rkmsuf · 04-26-2005, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Hell Atlantic

i live in NYC, not Kansas. everyone is a potential threat. the people who aren't alert at all times are the people you see on the evening news. i look at everyone. every person. of course i'm also checking out the ladies, trying to see what hot piece of ass i can find next, but yeah, i see everyone. and i see them before they see me because i'm actively looking at everyone, whereas the other person might be concentrating on something else.

i very much hate small talk, i can't stand it. i don't care about anyone outside of my circle. i don't care how your family is doing, how life is going for you or how your wife or kids are. i don't care. so rather than put myself in a situation where i have to ask the typical "small talk questions" i try to avoid it by making sure i don't run into anyone i don't want to talk to.

You're either Jason Bourne or Batman.

Maybe half the people have already seen you and have already shifted to ignore mode.

Ksyrup · 04-26-2005, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfpack

Thank you for making my mind up for me. My wife and I want to homeschool our daughter (and any future kids), but I had been wondering whether we could or should handle the high-school-level education ourselves. I think I'll find a way to deal with it.

Obviously, that's an extreme example, and I have no clue what they did to prepare her for a real school. But whatever they did, it, uh, didn't work.

I wonder what they'll do with the other two they're homeschooling?

DeToxRox · 04-26-2005, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mustang

Just out of curiousity, what was the comment the teacher made when he was forced to resign?

"I love the way your tits bounce when you spike, it makes my meat popsicle hard" might have crossed the line... Luckily we don't live in the 70s again.. everything would be sexual harassment in gym class what with the nut hugger shorts, porn moustaches and knee high gym socks..

haha no. he basically told some jokes that weren't that bad (well to me, as a 19 year old guy) and only one girl took offense on the team. only one complained and it was all it took.

Anthony · 04-26-2005, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

You're either Jason Bourne or Batman.

Maybe half the people have already seen you and have already shifted to ignore mode.

got my head on swivel, man.

my Italian grandfather (passed away several years ago) always used to tell me "eyes on the front. eyes on the back".

indeed, grandpa, indeed.

MacroGuru · 04-26-2005, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Hell Atlantic

got my head on swivel, man.

my Italian grandfather (passed away several years ago) always used to tell me "eyes on the front. eyes on the back".

indeed, grandpa, indeed.

Anyone else picture HA Dropping or Diving everytime a car backfires?

DeToxRox · 04-26-2005, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRoxDVHStyle

haha no. he basically told some jokes that weren't that bad (well to me, as a 19 year old guy) and only one girl took offense on the team. only one complained and it was all it took.

Bah to note. This girl was also not put on Varsity because she wasn't very good, so she was put on JV instead. He makes the joke after announcing teams. He had said (according to some girls I know on the team) jokes during tryouts that apparently this girl laughed it and then she gets cut and shes offended?

Coincidence? Maybe, but it seems shady.

DeToxRox · 04-26-2005, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by indoorsoccersim

Anyone else picture HA Dropping or Diving everytime a car backfires?

ha.

"Hey honey, can you go warm up my car?"

"Warm it up? It's June!"

Ksyrup · 04-26-2005, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Hell Atlantic

i very much hate small talk, i can't stand it. i don't care about anyone outside of my circle. i don't care how your family is doing, how your weekend was or how your wife or kids are. i don't care. so rather than put myself in a situation where i have to ask the typical "small talk questions" i try to avoid it by making sure i don't run into anyone i don't want to talk to.

I'm going to guess you don't sell insurance for a living...

rkmsuf · 04-26-2005, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

I'm going to guess you don't sell insurance for a living...

Needlenose Ned!

Anthony · 04-26-2005, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by indoorsoccersim

Anyone else picture HA Dropping or Diving everytime a car backfires?

i didn't say i was paranoid. i said i was aware of my surroundings. i always tell my wife that, to keep her head up, know who's in front of her, take stock of who's behind her, and not to leave herself open for attacks.

rkmsuf · 04-26-2005, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hell Atlantic

know who's in front of her, take stock of who's behind her, and not to leave herself open for attacks.

I'm mildly aroused.

Desnudo · 04-26-2005, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

You're either Jason Bourne or Batman.

Maybe half the people have already seen you and have already shifted to ignore mode.

HA goes grocery shopping. Would you say hi to him?

DeToxRox · 04-26-2005, 12:59 PM

Instead of Dean Houston Fan Club, his title should be "Suge Knight"

HomerJSimpson · 04-26-2005, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

Needlenose Ned!

Bing!

Anthony · 04-26-2005, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRoxDVHStyle

Instead of Dean Houston Fan Club, his title should be "Suge Knight"

i can be straight up thuggish if the situation calls for it.

JonInMiddleGA · 04-26-2005, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Hell Atlantic

the people who aren't alert at all times are the people you see on the evening news.

Although he make it it in unmistakable HA style, right here, the man has an extremely good point IMO.

And what he's talking about is a big part of the reason I was so ready to move out of Atlanta -- I grew tired of the state of alert you had to stay in; head-on-swivel even in a locked & gated parking garage kind of stuff, after a while you get used to it & it's automatic, but it wears on the mind & the nerves.

HomerJSimpson · 04-26-2005, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Although he make it it in unmistakable HA style, right here, the man has an extremely good point IMO.

And what he's talking about is a big part of the reason I was so ready to move out of Atlanta -- I grew tired of the state of alert you had to stay in; head-on-swivel even in a locked & gated parking garage kind of stuff, after a while you get used to it & it's automatic, but it wears on the mind & the nerves.

You feel safe in Monticello? I was riding through there last week, and there was some wierd kid standing on a street corner right outside the square, dressed in all black, with a bag in his hand looking strangly at the cars passing by. I couldn't help but think that was a school shooting waiting to happen.

ice4277 · 04-26-2005, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRoxDVHStyle

Okay before I begin, back story

My old PA English teacher in high school is a great guy. Amazing teacher, and just genuinely funny. His problem was he acted like kids in regards with what he said. He coached girls volleyball and apparently a girl took his jokes the wrong way and he was forced to resign. This was this year.

This leads me to today ..

I am on my way to class when I stop off for Dunkin Donuts. Upon entering I notice a guy staring at me but I don't think too much about it. I order my donuts (three cholcolate w/ sprinkle, pix later) and feel a gaze on me. I see him out of the corner of my eye behind the counter, taking drive thru orders. I finally turn around and look at him and realize it is my former teacher. So, now I am feeling awkward. I don't want to start talking to him thus letting everyone know he is my former teacher, and I figured he wanted it that way since he saw me first and didn't start the conversation. It's obvious he is embarrassed with his new job because of all the support he had, and I feel for him.

But honestly, it has never been more awkward then seeing the best English teacher I've ever had within a year go from teaching me to taking my order.

How else could I have gone about this?

This should make you feel much better about your low-paying job.

Huckleberry · 04-26-2005, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfpack

Thank you for making my mind up for me. My wife and I want to homeschool our daughter (and any future kids), but I had been wondering whether we could or should handle the high-school-level education ourselves. I think I'll find a way to deal with it.

Yes, postponing the illegitimate pregnancy until her freshman year in college is a good idea.

DeToxRox · 04-26-2005, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ice4277

This should make you feel much better about your low-paying job.

Yeah and I hope Adidas isn't considering your app!

RendeR · 04-26-2005, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Hell Atlantic

i can be straight up thuggish if the situation calls for it.

Wait, you mean you can be a BIGGER asshole than you normally are?

MacroGuru · 04-26-2005, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RendeR

Wait, you mean you can be a BIGGER asshole than you normally are?

Only if you come rolling up from the back.....

DeToxRox · 04-26-2005, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RendeR

Wait, you mean you can be a BIGGER asshole than you normally are?

He'll dangle you over a balcony if you steal his smiley.

judicial clerk · 04-26-2005, 06:06 PM

I had an exteremyl awkward moment one time that was a bit more funny.

So I am at the frat house early on a friday morning shooting hoops. None else is up yet because we partied the night before and the other guys are a bunch of pussies. I notice my friends door open and he comes slinking out followed closely by a girl I know who is not his girlfriend. She totally does not have a bra on under her shirt and she is wearing a pair of his boxers.

I actually say out loud "Oh shit." It was just what popped into my mind. Their heads both snap to my direction and they look like they just got caught with their hand in the cookie jar. So now we are all staring at each other. Maybe off in the distance a dog barked. They weakly say "uh, hi" and I reply with "oh, umm, ... yeah" or something. It was an awesome little scene.

JeeberD · 04-26-2005, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRoxDVHStyle

Bah to note. This girl was also not put on Varsity because she wasn't very good, so she was put on JV instead. He makes the joke after announcing teams. He had said (according to some girls I know on the team) jokes during tryouts that apparently this girl laughed it and then she gets cut and shes offended?

Coincidence? Maybe, but it seems shady.

Come on, Detox, you gotta tell us what the joke was...

RPI-Fan · 04-26-2005, 10:42 PM

Yea', I agree -- what does he have to be embarassed about?

Seems to me like he walks away thinking that even a former student who had apparantly admired him is ashamed of his new job.

RPI-Fan · 04-26-2005, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JeeberD

Come on, Detox, you gotta tell us what the joke was...

Dola.

Ditto.

Anthony · 04-26-2005, 11:20 PM

if a girl got offended by it, i highly doubt it was anything much. they cry over the most trivial things.

DeToxRox · 04-26-2005, 11:46 PM

haha alright.

What he said was "Some of you girls complain too much about who plays where. Well ladies, this is Volleyball, not the right to vote, and I stand by my decesions"

Apparently everyone laughed but one person.

Hell, it's not even that funny, but still a ballsy comment.

DaddyTorgo · 04-26-2005, 11:54 PM

i hardly find that offensive. i mean, if he had said "this is not a democracy" (which many of my teachers said to us BTW) it would have meant the same thing. It wasn't even a sexist comment, let alone a harassing comment. Stupid PC-police!

21C · 04-27-2005, 12:07 AM

He lost his job for that comment? Christ Almighty!

I've been teaching high school for 20 years and that must be the most asinine reason for being asked to resign. She took it the wrong way? Holy fuck! I've heard and said things that are 10 times worse - and I work in a Catholic school!

Solecismic · 04-27-2005, 12:22 AM

That was it, huh. Funny world we live in these days. We're reaching a point where a male teacher really shouldn't be anywhere near a female student without a female adult supervising - for his safety, not the students'.

Back in the '80s, when I was a reporter, there was a real case of sexual harassment at the local junior high. Coach walked in "accidentally" on a couple of girls showering. Not for the first time. My editor killed the story I wrote (which did not name the girl who complained, of course). At least he eventually got fired, but I still wasn't allowed to report it.

But that story is about as far from DeTox's teacher story as humanly possible. That teacher really needs to contact his union and see if he has recourse, if that's all he said.

04-26-2005, 10:59 AM	#2
Sharpieman Greatly Missed. (7/11/84-06/12/05) Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Palo Alto, CA	That sucks and its sad. Never been in that kind of situation. __________________ Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.

04-26-2005, 11:38 AM	#7
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	Cantstandya. Did Mr. Hamen give you an atomic wedgie as you departed? __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

04-26-2005, 12:02 PM	#13
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	How the heck can you be good at seeing people before they see you? What is evey minute a covert operation? __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

04-26-2005, 12:12 PM	#15
Mustang Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wisconsin	Just out of curiousity, what was the comment the teacher made when he was forced to resign? "I love the way your tits bounce when you spike, it makes my meat popsicle hard" might have crossed the line... Luckily we don't live in the 70s again.. everything would be sexual harassment in gym class what with the nut hugger shorts, porn moustaches and knee high gym socks.. __________________ You, you will regret what you have done this day. I will make you regret ever being born. Your going to wish you never left your mothers womb, where it was warm and safe... and wet. i am going to show you pain you never knew existed, you are going to see a whole new spectrum of pain, like a Rainboooow. But! This rainbow is not just like any other rainbow, its... Last edited by Mustang : 04-26-2005 at 12:13 PM.

04-26-2005, 12:18 PM	#16
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	It was a horrible misunderstanding. While leaving practice and rounding up the equipment he called out "Sally, grab my balls." __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

04-26-2005, 11:01 AM	#4
Anthony Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Astoria, NY, USA	i'm very good with seeing people before they see me, and if i don't want to talk to them i pretend i didn't see them and go on about my business. in your case since it's obvious you both saw each other i would have said hello and probably said "nice to see you again" and quickly made my exit. i would think you not saying anything made it more awkward. if he didn't want you to see him he would have turned his back to you or something, but since he made it very obvious that he was staring at you he was probably embarassed but still wanted you to acknowledge him. just my take.

04-26-2005, 11:16 AM	#6
Anthony Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Astoria, NY, USA	this is why men should not be the coaches for female teams.

04-26-2005, 11:55 AM	#10
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	That sucks. With the shrotage of quality teachers we have in this country it is a shame that someone who is seemingly a good teacher should have something like this happen.

04-26-2005, 12:23 PM	#17
Bo Jackson's Hip H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Jacksonville, Florida	I had an ex-brother in law who was forced to resign from his teaching position because one of his buddies sent him an dirty joke chain email. That sounds benign but what happened was that a female student of his was part of that email chain (the friend or my ex bro in law did not send the email to the student). Subsequently the student's mother saw the email and in that one in a million odds happened to notice my brother in law's email address. She then raised holy hell with the school superintendent and even though my ex bro in law did absolutely nothing wrong, they forced him to resign.

04-26-2005, 12:59 PM	#31
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Instead of Dean Houston Fan Club, his title should be "Suge Knight"

04-26-2005, 06:06 PM	#42
judicial clerk College Benchwarmer Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Portland, OR	I had an exteremyl awkward moment one time that was a bit more funny. So I am at the frat house early on a friday morning shooting hoops. None else is up yet because we partied the night before and the other guys are a bunch of pussies. I notice my friends door open and he comes slinking out followed closely by a girl I know who is not his girlfriend. She totally does not have a bra on under her shirt and she is wearing a pair of his boxers. I actually say out loud "Oh shit." It was just what popped into my mind. Their heads both snap to my direction and they look like they just got caught with their hand in the cookie jar. So now we are all staring at each other. Maybe off in the distance a dog barked. They weakly say "uh, hi" and I reply with "oh, umm, ... yeah" or something. It was an awesome little scene.

04-26-2005, 10:42 PM	#44
RPI-Fan Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Troy, NY	Yea', I agree -- what does he have to be embarassed about? Seems to me like he walks away thinking that even a former student who had apparantly admired him is ashamed of his new job. __________________ Quis custodiets ipsos custodes?

04-26-2005, 11:20 PM	#46
Anthony Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Astoria, NY, USA	if a girl got offended by it, i highly doubt it was anything much. they cry over the most trivial things.

04-26-2005, 11:46 PM	#47
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	haha alright. What he said was "Some of you girls complain too much about who plays where. Well ladies, this is Volleyball, not the right to vote, and I stand by my decesions" Apparently everyone laughed but one person. Hell, it's not even that funny, but still a ballsy comment.

04-26-2005, 11:54 PM	#48
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	i hardly find that offensive. i mean, if he had said "this is not a democracy" (which many of my teachers said to us BTW) it would have meant the same thing. It wasn't even a sexist comment, let alone a harassing comment. Stupid PC-police!

04-27-2005, 12:07 AM	#49
21C College Prospect Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Newcastle, Australia	He lost his job for that comment? Christ Almighty! I've been teaching high school for 20 years and that must be the most asinine reason for being asked to resign. She took it the wrong way? Holy fuck! I've heard and said things that are 10 times worse - and I work in a Catholic school!

04-27-2005, 12:22 AM	#50
Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canton, OH	That was it, huh. Funny world we live in these days. We're reaching a point where a male teacher really shouldn't be anywhere near a female student without a female adult supervising - for his safety, not the students'. Back in the '80s, when I was a reporter, there was a real case of sexual harassment at the local junior high. Coach walked in "accidentally" on a couple of girls showering. Not for the first time. My editor killed the story I wrote (which did not name the girl who complained, of course). At least he eventually got fired, but I still wasn't allowed to report it. But that story is about as far from DeTox's teacher story as humanly possible. That teacher really needs to contact his union and see if he has recourse, if that's all he said.

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