The Elder Scrolls IV:Oblivion

[Antmeister]

I can't wait for this game to come out even though I have yet to complete Morrowind. And there are still two more games after Morrowind. But I have been a huge fan of Bethseda since I first played Daggerfall which had the most depth that I have ever seen in a roleplaying game. Sea Dogs was probably the hugest disappointment. Besides that, the latest trailer for Oblivion look nice and I know I will end up purchasing it. It will probably take me another two years just to finish the first 3 in the series though.

[Coffee Warlord]

Wow. You....*liked* Daggerfall?

That was the poster child for good ideas implemented in piss poor fashion for a good long while, in my book.

[Antmeister]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Wow. You....*liked* Daggerfall?

That was the poster child for good ideas implemented in piss poor fashion for a good long while, in my book.

Mr. Warlord, what did you find so negative about the game? That is the only standalone roleplaying game that even my wife played. She hasn't played any other standalone roleplaying game since. Now she would rather play MMORPGs since she loves to be chatty.

[jeff061]

I understand you don't like it. However Daggerfall is reguarded by most as a classic, so really it's not a "wow" situation.

Can't wait for Oblivion.

[Coffee Warlord]

Originally Posted by Antmeister71

Mr. Warlord, what did you find so negative about the game? That is the only standalone roleplaying game that even my wife played. She hasn't played any other standalone roleplaying game since. Now she would rather play MMORPGs since she loves to be chatty.

All I really remember from that game these days is wandering around one of the big towns hearing "Vennnnnngeannnnnnncee" over and over and over, with not a god damned clue what I should be doing.

[Antmeister]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

All I really remember from that game these days is wandering around one of the big towns hearing "Vennnnnngeannnnnnncee" over and over and over, with not a god damned clue what I should be doing.

Oh that is why you didn't like it. It could get somewhat overwhelming at times because there was one main storyline in the game and then there were a number of subplots. Then there were those side task that you could choose to do and complete. That voice you kept hearing had to do with one of the subplots in the city you were in. If I remember correctly, it had something to do with the graveyard. You wouldn't find out what the voice was all about until you talked with people in the city. Plus I remember that you weren't allowed to sleep in the city's streets so you had to get a room at a local tavern or be jailed.

I am surprised I remember that much. I can see why you didn't like it though. Even though they had some sort of journal, the journal wasn't very descriptive. I do recall that if I spent a week away from the game, I would become confused on all the elements of that simplified entry.

[Desnudo]

Captain Picard as the voice of the emperor. Pretty cool.

[Tigercat]

I didn't like Daggerfall eithger. Just playing it you could tell it could be so much better if you could feel more apart of the gaming environment. Of course that was later realized in Morrowind. As it was, walking for miles surrounded by cardboard cutout looking enemies, trees, and people just didn't get me immersed in the game like the gameplay would have wanted me to be.

[Antmeister]

Originally Posted by Tigercat

I didn't like Daggerfall eithger. Just playing it you could tell it could be so much better if you could feel more apart of the gaming environment. Of course that was later realized in Morrowind. As it was, walking for miles surrounded by cardboard cutout looking enemies, trees, and people just didn't get me immersed in the game like the gameplay would have wanted me to be.

I can see what you are saying, but Daggerfall was created several years ago and to their credit, it was a 3D roleplaying world. The graphics were actually good for its time. Compare it to the other roleplaying games of that time and Daggerfall was one of the few that was in 3D. I wonder how it would do today if they would recreate it with today's graphics.

[Calis]

I loved Daggerfall, had much more fun with it than I ever did with Morrowind actually, but those were different times.

I don't think I ever got past the first two "story" missions in Daggerfall. I spent quite a career going from town to town pillaging as much as I could and riding my horse off into the sunset all the while massacring guards.

Heh, I remember contracting Lyncanthropy being God-mode as far as cities, as none of the guards wielded weapons that could hurt you.

The covens, all the hidden little stuff in it. One of my favorite games, I'll throw Arena in there as well. Yeah they were buggy as hell, but man did they rock.

Morrowind on the other hand, just never really clicked for me.

I didn't really see Morrowind as any more immersive. Didn't see much of a step up from Daggerfall in that department. The NPC's were still generic and did nothing. I guess Gothic spoiled me.

[Antmeister]

Originally Posted by Calis

I loved Daggerfall, had much more fun with it than I ever did with Morrowind actually, but those were different times.

I don't think I ever got past the first two "story" missions in Daggerfall. I spent quite a career going from town to town pillaging as much as I could and riding my horse off into the sunset all the while massacring guards.

Heh, I remember contracting Lyncanthropy being God-mode as far as cities, as none of the guards wielded weapons that could hurt you.

The covens, all the hidden little stuff in it. One of my favorite games, I'll throw Arena in there as well. Yeah they were buggy as hell, but man did they rock.

Morrowind on the other hand, just never really clicked for me.

I didn't really see Morrowind as any more immersive. Didn't see much of a step up from Daggerfall in that department. The NPC's were still generic and did nothing. I guess Gothic spoiled me.

I still haven't played Gothic. I have got to try that out. Heard too many good things from people on this board.

[Eaglesfan27]

Same here - about needing to try out Gothic or Gothic 2.

[Calis]

I wasn't very fond of the first Gothic, but the 2nd one is one of my favorites. Highly recommend it to any RPG fan, one of the best. While it doesn't have the size and scope that Morrowind does, what's there is mucho better in my book. The game feels much more alive.

Now if they'd ever release that expansion pack here in the states.

Main thing with Gothic though, you have to give it some time to get used to the control scheme. It's different and can be pretty damn annoying at first, the 2nd game does give you the option to use a more standard scheme so it's no biggie there.

Lets see if Buc's "Gothdar" is still strong.

[Antmeister]

Originally Posted by Calis

I wasn't very fond of the first Gothic, but the 2nd one is one of my favorites. Highly recommend it to any RPG fan, one of the best. While it doesn't have the size and scope that Morrowind does, what's there is mucho better in my book. The game feels much more alive.

Now if they'd ever release that expansion pack here in the states.

Main thing with Gothic though, you have to give it some time to get used to the control scheme. It's different and can be pretty damn annoying at first, the 2nd game does give you the option to use a more standard scheme so it's no biggie there.

Lets see if Buc's "Gothdar" is still strong.

Will I be missing out from any of the story from the original Gothic or does it stand on its own?

[Calis]

Originally Posted by Antmeister71

Will I be missing out from any of the story from the original Gothic or does it stand on its own?

I never finished the original Gothic and didn't feel lost personally.

There's obviously some stuff, but it does a good job of keeping you informed.

Might be worth trying the first if you can find it though, I imagine it's pretty cheap now. Couple things will be cooler if you've played it.