FOFC Draft: The Four Sport Challenge - Best Athletes in History

[Schmidty]

Here is the draft order:

1. Raiders Army
1.1 Michael Jordan - Basketball
2.12 Joe Montana - Football
3.1 Nolan Ryan - Baseball
4.12 Pete Sampras - Other
5.1 Ronnie Lott - Football
6.12 Doug Harvey - Hockey
7.1 Jaromir Jagr - Hockey
8.12 Tom Seaver - Baseball
9.1 George "Meadowlark" Lemon - Basketball
10.12 John Wooden - Wildcard

2. ThunderingHERD
1.2 Wayne Gretzky - Hockey
2.11 Mario Lemieux - Hockey
3.2 Ted Williams - Baseball
4.11 Stan Musial - Baseball
5.2 Dick Butkus - Football
6.11 Sugar Ray Robinson - Other
7.2 George Mikan - Basketball
8.11 Charles Barkley - Basketball
9.2 O.J. Simpson - Football
10.11 Diego Maradona - Wildcard

3. General Mike
1.3 Babe Ruth - Baseball
2.10 Gordie Howe - Hockey
3.3 Magic Johnson - Basketball
4.10 Reggie White- Football
5.3 Rocky Marciano - Other
6.10 Honus Wagner - Baseball
7.3 Deacon Jones - Football
8.10 Hakeem Olajuwon - Basketball
9.3 Mike Bossy - Hockey
10.10 Mike Schmidt - Wildcard

4. TazFTW
1.4 Jim Brown - Football
2.9 Patrick Roy - Hockey
3.4 Joe Louis - Other
4.9 Roger Clemens - Baseball
5.4 Barry Bonds - Baseball
6.9 Shaquille O'neal - Basketball
7.4 Elgin Baylor - Basketball
8.9 Ray Bourque - Hockey
9.4 Deion Sanders - Football
10.9 Bob Gibson - Wildcard

5. Maple Leafs
1.5 Muhammad Ali - Other
2.8 Jackie Robinson - Baseball
3.5 Bill Russell - Basketball
3.10 Walter Payton - Football
5.5 Mickey Mantle - Baseball
7.5 Jean Beliveau - Hockey
8.3 Arnold Palmer - Wildcard
8.8 Don Hutson - Football
9.5 Eddie Shore - Hockey
10.8 Karl Malone - Basketball

6. Schmidty
1.6 Tiger Woods - Other
2.7 Ty Cobb - Baseball
3.6 Larry Bird - Basketball
4.7 Johnny Unitas - Football
5.6 Pete Rose - Baseball
6.7 Steve Yzerman - Hockey
7.6 Rogers Hornsby - Wildcard
8.7 John Elway - Football
9.6 Pete Maravich - Basketball
10.7 Brett Hull - Hockey

7. kcchief19
1.7 Jim Thorpe - Other
2.6 Lance Armstrong - Wildcard
3.7 Mark Messier - hockey
4.6 Lou Gehrig - Baseball
5.7 Julius Erving - Basketball
6.6 Terry Sawchuck - Hockey
7.7 Gayle Sayers - Football
8.6 Brett Favre - Football
9.7 Dominique Wilkins - Basketball
10.6 Roberto Clemente - Baseball

8. vexroid
1.8 Bo Jackson - Wildcard
2.5 Carl Lewis - Other
3.8 Oscar Robertson - Basketball
4.5 Joe DiMaggio - Baseball
5.8 Sammy Baugh - Football
6.5 Isiah Thomas - Basketball
7.8 Red Grange - Football
8.5 Brooks Robinson - Baseball
9.8 Guy Lafleur - Hockey
10.5 Phil Esposito - Hockey

9. Travis
1.9 Jesse Owen - Other
2.4 Jerry Rice - Football
3.9 Babe Didrikson Zaharias - Wildcard
4.4 Hank Aaron - Baseball
5.9 Jerry West - Basketball
6.4 Vladislav Tretiak - Hockey
7.9 Bob Cousy - Basketball
8.4 Walter Johnson - Baseball
9.9 Paul Coffey - Hockey
10.4 Warren Moon - Football

10. vtbub
1.10 Jack Nicklaus - Other
2.3 Willie Mays - Baseball
4.3 Emmitt Smith - Football
4.8 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar - Basketball
5.10 Maurice Richard- Hockey
6.3 Sandy Koufax - Baseball
6.8 Mike Singletary - Football
7.10 Walt Frazie r- Basketball
9.10 Ken Dryden - Hockey
10.3 Steffi Graf- Wildcard

11. DeToxRoxDVHStyle/RadioFriendlyUnitShifter
1.11 Bobby Orr - Hockey
2.2 Barry Sanders - Football
3.11 Lawerence Taylor - Football
4.2 Cal Ripken Jr. - Baseball
5.11 - Kurt Angle - Wildcard
6.2 LeBron James - Basketball
7.11 Mark Spitz - Other
8.2 Rickey Henderson - Baseball
9.11 Jacques Plante - Hockey
10.2 George Gervin - Basketball

12. DaddyTorgo
1.12 Wilt Chamberlain - Basketball
2.1 Pele - Other
3.12 Eddy Merckx - Wildcard
4.1 Bobby Hull - Hockey
5.12 John Havlicek - Basketball
6.1 Cy Young - Baseball
7.12 Steve Young - Football
8.1 Dan Marino - Football
9.12 Marcel Dionne - Hockey
10.1 Josh "The Black Babe Ruth" Gibson - Baseball

After having so much fun in Maple Leaf's comedy draft, I've decided to run one myself. This one is going to run along the same line as the comedy draft (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...ad.php?t=45945), but this one will be sports-themed.

Since I'm kind of lazy, I've ask Maple Leafs if I could copy and paste a portion of the rules from the comedy draft:

How to play:
If you want to play, PM me. If there's a lot of interest, I'll randomly select 10-12 players. If there's not much interest, we'll just go with the first ten.

The draft will be conducted via the foum, in this thread. When it's your turn to draft, you post, ideally with a brief note about the reason for your choice. If you won't be around, you PM someone else your picks in advance to keep things moving.

The draft is a serpentine draft, which is a fancy way of saying that the order reverses each round. Draft order will be determined randomly before we start.

How to win:
The fun here comes more from the draft itself than from actually winning, but just in case it matters: Once the draft is done, we'll hold a vote and let FOFC choose the winner.

The teams:

The idea is to pick 2 great players in each of the major north american sports, 1 in an "other sports" category, and 1 in a "wildcard" category. The wildcard pick can be from any sport you choose. The player needn't have ever even played pro. They can be great college players or "amateurs" from days gone by. I am debating whether or not to include one female pick, but I'd like to hear more feedback from participants of the draft. As of right now, your team must have:

Football - 2 players

Baseball - 2 players

Basketball - 2 players

Hockey - 2 players

Other Sports - 1 player

Wildcard - 1 player

A note on multi-sport athletes: You may choose to put an athlete in an other category than the sport they were most known for, but that players must have obviously played competitvely in that sport at some point. This strategy could be good if you want to squeeze a well-known player in after you've run out of room in their main sport; however, be aware that such a move might look silly or bad to the voters.

One last thing that I ask (as in the other game), please don't discuss a player unless that player has already been chosen. This obviously goes for onlookers as well.

Well, I think that's it. I hope we get a lot of interest in this one, because I think it'll be a lot of fun.

[Maple Leafs]

I'm in.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

I'm in.

Thanks man.

We've got 3 so far. Looks like we might have to stick with 10 total, unless a lot of other people get interested.

[Raiders Army]

I'll do this puppy if accepted.

[DaddyTorgo]

i'll do it if the draft is at a time when i can be around

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

i'll do it if the draft is at a time when i can be around

It's not live. You just post your picks in whatever place you are in the order. If you aren't going to be around for a while, just send your pick to someone who won't be picking before you, or after you at the end of the serpantine order.

Well, this is encouraging. We now have 9. Others can feel free to sign up, as I think we can do 12 participants, maybe even more, unless you guys think that'd be a bad idea. The more people in the draft, the slower it'll go, and there could be a chance of people losing interest.

[General Mike]

I'm in.

[Schmidty]

Actually, I'm wrong: There are 10 people, including me.

[Schmidty]

Ok, we have 12 people now. I guess I'll stop at 14, although that's kind of a large amount of people.

[DaddyTorgo]

and the people just keep on pourin in!

[Schmidty]

actually, if no one else signs up by 5 p.m. PST, I'm going to call it at 12. Seems like a good number.

[Schmidty]

This is who I have right now:

1. Schmidty
2. ThunderingHERD
3. vtbub
4. Maple Leafs
5. Travis
6. TazFTW
7. DeToxRoxDVHStyle
8. vexroid
9. Raiders Army
10. DaddyTorgo
11. General Mike
12. kcchief19

[Schmidty]

Ok, we're cutting it off at 12. I think 14 would be too much.

[Schmidty]

I need someone, preferrably a non-participant, to generate the order based up people entry number posted above. http://random.org/sform.html

[MIJB#19]

9
2
11
6
4
1
12
8
5
3
7
10

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by MIJB#19

9
2
11
6
4
1
12
8
5
3
7
10

Thanks.

[General Mike]

~!

[Schmidty]

Ok, here's the draft order:

1. Raiders Army
2. ThunderingHERD
3. General Mike
4. TazFTW
5. Maple Leafs
6. Schmidty
7. kcchief19
8. vexroid
9. Travis
10. vtbub
11. DeToxRoxDVHStyle
12. DaddyTorgo

[MIJB#19]

You're welcome.

Suggestion on the female part: There are maybe only few that warrant good value. I mean, I doubt drafting [top female tennis player] over one of the 100 best male tennis players of any year makes any sense at all. I mean, most likely the male player will win 9 out of 10 times. In some sports it might actually help to get votes, though, but I have no idea which ones at the moment.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by MIJB#19

You're welcome.

Suggestion on the female part: There are maybe only few that warrant good value. I mean, I doubt drafting Steffi Graf or Venus Williams over one of the 100 best male tennis players of any year makes any sense at all. I mean, most likely the male player will win 9 out of 10 times. In some sports it might actually help to get votes, though, but I have no idea which ones at the moment.

Good point. I've been thinking it would be bad idea anyway, so I think I'll just kill that idea.

[Schmidty]

Ok, the first day is likely to be slow as everyone gets their bearings, so I'm not worried about people PMing their pick until sometime tomorrow.

With the first pick in the draft, Raiders Army is on the clock.

[DeToxRox]

My team will be full of bad asses who chew tobacco.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by DeToxRoxDVHStyle

My team will be full of bad asses who chew tobacco.

I just hope I'm able to get at least one male Ice Dancer.

[Raiders Army]

Aaaargh. Being first is a doozy here. This also means I pick last next round. After thinking about it, I pick

Peyton Manning

even though I don't like him as a person, he is probably the most dominant player in the NFL right now. I had a guy in mind for MLB and the NBA, but I'm going with him...

[Raiders Army]

Also, I vote for no female players. I don't know the WNBA that well.

[SnDvls]

are you doing only active ones or retired too?

I'll be following

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by SnDvls

are you doing only active ones or retired too?

I'll be following

People can pick anyone in history. I just sent him a PM confirming.

I thought I had made that clear in the "Teams" section of the rules, but I guess I should have said something more definitive. Sorry

[Schmidty]

Ok, since RA is gone from the draft, I'm going to pause it, as I doubt anyone would pick Peyton (as great as he is) over a lot of other athletes.

This was a crappy way to start.

[General Mike]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

This was a crappy way to start.

Damn straight.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by General Mike

Damn straight.

I just don't know what else to do. Do you guys think I should just move on and say that he should have realized it, or should we be patient since I wasn't all that clear (other than the "teams" section)?

[Raven]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

People can pick anyone in history. I just sent him a PM confirming.

I thought I had made that clear in the "Teams" section of the rules, but I guess I should have said something more definitive. Sorry

From a non-participants perspective, I think the title "Best Athletes in History" should have been definitive enough. I'd say RA's pick should stand, and noone else should be asked to wait for him to repick.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Raven

From a non-participants perspective, I think the title "Best Athletes in History" should have been definitive enough. I'd say RA's pick should stand, and noone else should be asked to wait for him to repick.

Unfortunately, I added that AFTER he made his pick to make it more clear. I PMed him immediately after his pick, but it appears that he was already gone.

[DaddyTorgo]

ouch. i get bitched with the 1 (12) / 2 (1) selection? That's going to hurt.

[Ramzavail]

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

Aaaargh. Being first is a doozy here. This also means I pick last next round. After thinking about it, I pick

Peyton Manning

even though I don't like him as a person, he is probably the most dominant player in the NFL right now. I had a guy in mind for MLB and the NBA, but I'm going with him...

I am shocked that this is the first overall pick. When he's clearly not the best quarterback of all time, at least, not yet.

[General Mike]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

I just don't know what else to do. Do you guys think I should just move on and say that he should have realized it, or should we be patient since I wasn't all that clear (other than the "teams" section)?

yeah, I guess just wait til he comes back, and hopefully he doesnt take my guy.

[SnDvls]

as an outsider, just from the rules that were up when I asked my question it was pretty vague. I say let him repick. It's not like his pick was like #8 and 6 more people have picked.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by SnDvls

as an outsider, just from the rules that were up when I asked my question it was pretty vague. I say let him repick. It's not like his pick was like #8 and 6 more people have picked.

I agree.

My bad, guys.

[vtbub]

I wouldn't worry about it. Not a biggie

[vex]

I thought it was pretty clear myself.

[saldana]

sorry i missed this game, looks like it is going to be alot of fun...schmidty, after this one, you should run one for the crappiest players of all times...that would be quite amusing...i draft cecil fielder.

[Raiders Army]

Sorry guys. My fault to a bad start. I'll edit and take

Michael Jordan

He was absolutely the most dominant basketball player of any time, including any present day guys. Right now everyone from Vince Carter to LeBron James has been dubbed the "Next Michael Jordan".

Edit--And I feel like a total dumbass. I apologize to all involved who had to wait and let me re-pick.

[kcchief19]

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

Edit--And I feel like a total dumbass. I apologize to all involved who had to wait and let me re-pick.

No apologies necessary ... you're a Raiders fan. We understand.

[Raiders Army]

Must be Al Davis' senility rubbing off on me.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

Edit--And I feel like a total dumbass. I apologize to all involved who had to wait and let me re-pick.

No sweat. It was mostly my fault for not being as clear as I could have been.

[General Mike]

Schmidty, I have to step out for a few hours, can I send you my shortlist of 2 names?

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by General Mike

Schmidty, I have to step out for a few hours, can I send you my shortlist of 2 names?

Yeah, that would be great. Thanks.

[Schmidty]

I think I'm going to give ThunderHERD until midnight EST. If he hasn't posted, I'm going to replace him, since I think the draft needs to get going after all the delays.

[Raiders Army]

Sounds good to me, but I feel like I'm to blame since he logged on about 4 AM EST this morning, just about two hours before I corrected my mistake.

Edit--Thanks for putting Michael Jordan under basketball instead of baseball.

[General Mike]

I'm back.

[vex]

Originally Posted by General Mike

I'm back.

Didn't miss much