College B-Ball text sim game choices?

[Galaril]

Are any of the college game sgoing to be releasing a new version or update this winter? The games that come to mind are FBCB, Total College Basketball nad a Greydog unnamed college game.

[SirFozzie]

HeavyReign is working on a new game, but there's no word on when/how much

[Galaril]

Yeah, he is working on a pro game same with Gary Gorski and the guys at GreyDog. But, I don't see anyone make a college game this season. So, I was just wondering if I should fire up the TCB and get all the logos set up. I never really cared for the solo experience of FBCB.

[Swaggs]

FBCB and TCB are both very good games and worth the money. TCB is probably a little deeper and flashier. FBCB, for whatever, is just very enjoyable as a "game" (as opposed to a sim) and, if you get it, you can play in the FOFC FBCB league.

Either are worth the money and, after relatively short learning curves, will give you many hours of gametime.

[vex]

TCB is my fav.

[MizzouRah]

TCB all the way!

[vtbub]

What's he biggest difference between the two games? I just fired up FBCB again and find it very enjoyable.

[jbmagic]

FBCB is way better than TCB.

[Icy]

FBCB is more simple but really addictive, i prefer it when i want to play with a fast pace, specially when recruiting.

TCB is more deep on recruiting but of course it takes more time to finish a season.

Both games are really great, right now i'm playing TCB as i want more deep.

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by jbmagic

FBCB is way better than TCB.

Ok, you've made a BOLD statement, now back it up.

[jbmagic]

Originally Posted by MizzouRah

Ok, you've made a BOLD statement, now back it up.

Just do a poll and you will see.

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by jbmagic

Just do a poll and you will see.

Oh no you don't... I want to know from YOU why FBCB is so much better than TCB. No quotes from other members, I want YOU to tell me what's so much better.

I'm waiting....

[Galaril]

Originally Posted by jbmagic

FBCB is way better than TCB.

Disagree.

[vex]

Originally Posted by Galaril

Disagree.

ditto

[BigDPW]

Originally Posted by Galaril

Disagree.

Ditto dos!

[MizzouRah]

I'm still waiting jb.

[Pumpy Tudors]

I'm waiting, too.

[CraigSca]

Hold up guys, he's probably reading it over and making sure his review is "just right". Losing one's edit button will do that to you.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Originally Posted by CraigSca

Hold up guys, he's probably reading it over and making sure his review is "just right". Losing one's edit button will do that to you.

Oh, c'mon, copying and pasting isn't that hard.

[dervack]

Originally Posted by MizzouRah

Oh no you don't... I want to know from YOU why FBCB is so much better than TCB. No quotes from other members, I want YOU to tell me what's so much better.

I'm waiting....

Well, were waiting jb. Anytime soon would be great.

[heybrad]

Here's what you guys have been waiting for....

"It have better AI."

[MJ4H]

FWIW I bought both TCB and FBCB and like TCB much better, though both are excellent products.

[Godzilla Blitz]

I haven't played TCB, but FBCB is right up there with my top three text-sims. I found the pacing, the AI, the recruiting, and the fun factor to be right on target. Great game.

[Tasan]

I know for me, FBCB is the way to go. I get addicted to it each time I start it up. I bought TCB after playing the demo, but I've never gotten into a long term career with it though. I think FBCB just has everything simple yet deep, if thats even possible.

[Buccaneer]

Originally Posted by Godzilla Blitz

I haven't played TCB, but FBCB is right up there with my top three text-sims. I found the pacing, the AI, the recruiting, and the fun factor to be right on target. Great game.

Originally Posted by Tasan

I know for me, FBCB is the way to go. I get addicted to it each time I start it up. I bought TCB after playing the demo, but I've never gotten into a long term career with it though. I think FBCB just has everything simple yet deep, if thats even possible.

Perfectly said.

[Oilers9911]

Originally Posted by jbmagic

FBCB is way better than TCB.

Stunning analysis.

[st.cronin]

I agree with Buc, Tasan, and GB, as well as jbmagic.

[Neuqua]

and I agree with st cronin.

[Buccaneer]

and I don't agree with jbmoron just because he still doesn't have a clue.

[MizzouRah]

I know a lot of people love FBCB (Buc ) - but to totally discredit another product without anything to back it up irks me.

I too, like FBCB, but TCB is much more immersive for me. I love the 2d style play and Gary's style of programming draws me into his products. FBCB is quite simple, yet so comprehensive under the hood, it's kind of like the college basketball sim Jim might make.

I just hate it when jb makes blanket statements like that when he probably hasn't played either one... it's getting old.

[jbmagic]

Originally Posted by MizzouRah

I know a lot of people love FBCB (Buc ) - but to totally discredit another product without anything to back it up irks me.

I too, like FBCB, but TCB is much more immersive for me. I love the 2d style play and Gary's style of programming draws me into his products. FBCB is quite simple, yet so comprehensive under the hood, it's kind of like the college basketball sim Jim might make.

I just hate it when jb makes blanket statements like that when he probably hasn't played either one... it's getting old.

Your wrong Todd.

Its not always about the pretty looking interface and graphic that makes a game better.

[Pumpy Tudors]

jbmagic, what do you like "way" better about FBCB?

[jbmagic]

Todd

Don't worry about what games I played and not played. Get a life. Its my opinion that FBCB is better than TCB and others agree. Not everyone has to always agree with you what the better game is.

Whats makes a great game is under the hood and not always the pretty interface. Thats why I love FBCB and FOF.

I never saw a person like you who gets so excited about a game and then stops playing it. One minute your telling us what a great game it is and a few weeks later your telling us it sucks.

Your not very consistent. Its gets very old.

[Pumpy Tudors]

jbmagic must have me on ignore.

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by jbmagic

Your wrong Todd.

Its not always about the pretty looking interface and graphic that makes a game better.

You really have no clue - or you're just acting your part.

You said FBCB is WAY better than TCB, please explain. What is it that makes FBCB way better than TCB? I know everyone else can answer why THEY think it's better (or not) in their opinions, but what do YOU think is WAY better? You said it, now back it up.

I like both games and have played FBCB more than I have TCB so far, but the 2d gameplay really takes up the immersion level for me - other than that, FBCB is much quicker sim wise and overall duties from a coach perspective to the point, like TCY is to college football. Nothing in FBCB however, is WAY - over the top better than TCB - I think they are both excellent college bball games.

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by jbmagic

Todd

Don't worry about what games I played and not played. Get a life. Its my opinion that FBCB is better than TCB and others agree. Not everyone has to always agree with you what the better game is.

Whats makes a great game is under the hood and not always the pretty interface. Thats why I love FBCB and FOF.

I never saw a person like you who gets so excited about a game and then stops playing it. One minute your telling us what a great game it is and a few weeks later your telling us it sucks.

Your not very consistent. Its gets very old.

Point made. You're a troll and that's fine with me. You post about each and every patch for anything, yet you never have any of your own thoughts.

For someone who doesn't care what I think about a game, you sure ask me a lot of questions. In fact, I don't think anyone here asks YOU a f'n thing... I wonder why?

You're boring one liner posts are what's old.

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

jbmagic must have me on ignore.

Don't worry, he couldn't answer your question anyway.

Here's jb in a nutshell:

Coffee -
"Mocha Late is way better than coffee"

Baby Ruth -
"Butterfinger is way better than baby ruth"

Grasshopper -
"Praying mantis is way better than grasshopper"

Coca butter -
"Utter cream way better than coca butter"


..and various 4th grade cut and paste jobs from other people who actually post their thoughts and opinions...

[MizzouRah]

by the way, the Rams suck!

[Ben E Lou]

What's funny is that many of you people used to defend this clown, and painted me as some kind of bully who picked on him for no reason. No reason, my black butt. I yield the floor to the Distinguished Gentleman from Astoria, NY:

Originally Posted by Hell Atlantic

this is so not worth that much time. i will say one thing though - it wasn't until Da Dawg pointed out that jb was annoying that i said to myself "ya know what? he actually *is* annoying when i come to think about it".

i don't like how he forces things by racing to be the one to start a thread on every conceivable topic. as soon as he gets info he's gotta rush here and post it, like he's the board appointed reporter or something. he doesn't even do it in a cute-Kodos way by starting a poll, he just wants to be the one to be credited as finding this or that piece of info or being the thread-starter. it's annoying.

of course there's all those retarded questions he asks in every thread.

i don't think it's an act, unfortunately. i think he's just that off-sync with the rest of the internet. just doesn't have a clue. i don't like his posts with those huge puppy-dog eyes saying "jbmagic don't mean no harm. don't be mad at jb. i no write english well" and everyone falls for it. it's like how do you get mad a puppy when it pees on your floor and looks up at you with its innocent little face? that's jb. but the end-result is that your floor has still been peed on and eventually the cute little innocent act grows tired.

i kinda feel bad for the guy in the sense that he might feel he's doing the board some justice and honestly doesn't have a clue as to how his style of posting or internet personality could rub people the wrong way. but, like the puppy who pees on your floor - that don't make it right, no matter how innocent the puppy is.

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...&postcount=169

[MizzouRah]

Wow HA, that was one great "sum it all up" post. I remember reading it, but it needed some refreshment in my brain.

I guess I could put him on ignore.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by SkyDog

What's funny is that many of you people used to defend this clown, and painted me as some kind of bully who picked on him for no reason. No reason, my black butt. I yield the floor to the Distinguished Gentleman from Astoria, NY:
http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...&postcount=169

Are you really using a HA post to make an argument? That is even funnier then this thread

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Are you really using a HA post to make an argument? That is even funnier then this thread

There's no argument to be made. What has been axiomatic to me for quite some time has finally become axiomatic to many others.

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Are you really using a HA post to make an argument? That is even funnier then this thread

Not really. It's a great post by HA and true as far as I'm concerned.

[Buccaneer]

Originally Posted by MizzouRah

I know a lot of people love FBCB (Buc ) - but to totally discredit another product without anything to back it up irks me.

I too, like FBCB, but TCB is much more immersive for me. I love the 2d style play and Gary's style of programming draws me into his products. FBCB is quite simple, yet so comprehensive under the hood, it's kind of like the college basketball sim Jim might make.

I just hate it when jb makes blanket statements like that when he probably hasn't played either one... it's getting old.

It is my opinion that it would not be the game Jim would make. Whereas FBCB is simple yet deep, Jim's games are complex yet deep. That's what makes FBCB more of an addictive, easy flowing game than an in-depth FOF/TCY-like sim. I am a GM/AD-type micromanager and games like FBCB and OOTP suite my style.

I have not played TCB but from the screenshots and reading how people play it, there is a lot going on and a lot you have to pay attention to (esp. recruiting). There is nothing wrong with that type of game (just like there's nothing wrong with FOF), some gamers have difference preferences when sitting down to play a game, that's all.

[insert another obligatory jbmoron quip to agree with HNIC and HA]

[MizzouRah]

I meant it in a way that the interface and flow of the game (for me) is FOF like - simple, yet dymanic. TCB is also very well written imo, but you're right, there's a lot more going on, thus more work for the "GM" style player - but I am a "GM" style player and it can be done in TCB.

[sooner333]

I think what I like about FBCB can be summed up in the fact that I hadn't played my dynasty for about seven months, but I loaded it up the other day, got my bearings in a few minutes and simmed another season or two in a sitting. I don't think I could do that with an old TCY career. I like the fact that I can go pretty fast and still feel like I'm making a difference in recruiting with strategy. It's a great game to play when I don't feel like making lists with pen and paper to figure out what exactly I need to do.

I haven't played TCB because I had some kind of error in the demo and never got around to buying the game. It's probably pretty good, but I can't really comment on it so I don't know if it's better...but to me, I enjoy playing FBCB from time to time and don't really have much more time to be trying out more games. I'm the kind of person that finds something at a restaurant I like and order it almost every time...no reason to find another college basketball game for the time being.

[Oilers9911]

Originally Posted by MizzouRah

Wow HA, that was one great "sum it all up" post. I remember reading it, but it needed some refreshment in my brain.

I guess I could put him on ignore.

HA's bluster usually irks me no end but damned if he isn't dead on with this jbmagic thing.

[Groundhog]

I played the demo of TCB, but I guess the major knock for me was that I am already deeeeeeep in a FBCB career that I've been simming for about 3 years now on a pretty continual basis, and I just couldn't get in to TCB because I am already hooked on FBCB. It's certainly through no fault of Gary's however and I'm sure TCB is a good game, but FBCB has a certain quality about it in regards to it's ease and speed of use that has me as hooked now as I was when I bought it years ago. I consider it as near perfect a text sim as I've ever played.

[jbmagic]

Todd

Just do a freaking poll and you will see. Its that simple. Or your scare in the result you will see?

The only thing TCB has over FBCB is the 2D graphic and the pretty interface.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Originally Posted by jbmagic

Todd

Just do a freaking poll and you will see. Its that simple. Or your scare in the result you will see?

The only thing TCB has over FBCB is the 2D graphic and the pretty interface.

The question is why you think FBCB is "way better" than TCB. It's not about what other people think. It's just not. The question is really, really simple, and you're not doing yourself any favors by not answering it.