Mount Rushmore - Female movie characters

QuikSand · 12-28-2006, 11:40 AM

Okay, most of you already know the rules...

Exactly four entries for the Mount Rushmore of this category. No four plus a list, no honorable mentions, no sneakiness. Four.

You decide what qualifies and what to submit. And you can't comment on other people's submissions until you have submitted your four. And if you want to defend your choice(s), do so after you have submitted your four entries.

This category - female movie characters. Not actresses, characters. Not characters who earned greatness in other media and then appears in film as well -- they should qualify here based on their movie presence, period.

Enjoy.

JonInMiddleGA · 12-28-2006, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by QuikSand

Not characters who earned greatness in other media and then appears in film as well

Clarification request -- does this exclude characters from film adapations of novels entirely? Or only restrict using their non-film elements as justification for inclusion?

QuikSand · 12-28-2006, 11:51 AM

It's okay to include a character who was also in a book or elsewhere... but don't submit someone like, say, Joan of Arc because of her fame from other sources, unless she merits it solely based on her portrayal in one or more movies.

stevew · 12-28-2006, 11:53 AM

Catherine Tramell(Basic Instinct)---admittedly I'm ignoring part 2
Princess Leia Organa(Duh)
Marge Gunderson(Fargo)
Alex Forrest(Fatal Attraction)

cartman · 12-28-2006, 11:53 AM

Sera - Leaving Las Vegas
Scarlett O'Hara - Gone With the Wind
Dorothy - Wizard of Oz
Police Chief Marge - Fargo

BrianD · 12-28-2006, 11:57 AM

I'll give it a shot.

1. Ellen Ripley - Sigourney Weaver (Alien)
2. Joan Crawford - Faye Dunaway (Mommie Dearest)
3. Sally Albright - Meg Ryan (When Harry Met Sally)
4. Alex Forrest - Glenn Close (Fatal Attraction)

Swaggs · 12-28-2006, 11:57 AM

Scarlett O'Hara
Clarice Starling
Joan Crawford (Mommie Dearest)
Mary Poppins

QuikSand · 12-28-2006, 12:02 PM

Mrs Q and I came up with:

Scarlett O'Hara
Dorothy
Holly Golightly
Sister Maria

VPI97 · 12-28-2006, 12:03 PM

Maggie Fitzgerald - Million Dollar Baby
Ellen Ripley - Alien
Mei - House of Flying Daggers
Leia Organa - Star Wars

JonInMiddleGA · 12-28-2006, 12:03 PM

Norma Desmond - Sunset Boulevard
Scarlett O'Hara - Gone With the Wind
Holly Golightly - Breakfast At Tiffany's
Baby Jane - Whatever Happened to Baby Jane?

QuikSand · 12-28-2006, 12:19 PM

Hmmm... we tossed around several of the names here, but completely forgot about Norma Desmond. Dang. I think our Sister Maria slot might be up for grabs once she reads this thread, though. I don't see how you can have this list without Scartett and Dorothy, though, even if you're prone to emphasizing more recent films.

Toddzilla · 12-28-2006, 12:20 PM

Annie Savoy - Bull Durham
Trinity - Matrix Trilogy
Ellen Ripley - Alien Trilogy
Jenna Jameson

Radii · 12-28-2006, 12:27 PM

Scarlett O'Hara - Gone With the Wind
Dorothy - Wizard of Oz
Catherine Tramell - Basic Instinct
Princess Leia - Star Wars

VPI97 · 12-28-2006, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by QuikSand

I don't see how you can have this list without Scartett and Dorothy, though, even if you're prone to emphasizing more recent films.

To me, Wizard of Oz and Gone With the Wind are important films just as much for the historical significance of their production (if not more) than they are for the individual characters. For that reason, including Scarlett & Dorothy on the list would be akin to selecting the best player on the best team for MVP, in my opinion. I don't necessarily agree with that concept.

st.cronin · 12-28-2006, 12:34 PM

Lara Croft
Clarice Starling
Lou Jean Popling
Linda Ash

QuikSand · 12-28-2006, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by VPI97

To me, Wizard of Oz and Gone With the Wind are important films just as much for the historical significance of their production (if not more) than they are for the individual characters. For that reason, including Scarlett & Dorothy on the list would be akin to selecting the best player on the best team for MVP, in my opinion. I don't necessarily agree with that concept.

I would agree with you that I don't like that concept in general... I'd just disagree on whether these two fit into that description.

Kodos · 12-28-2006, 01:18 PM

Ellen Ripley - Alien Quadrilogy
Clarice Starling - Silence of the Lambs
Sarah Connor - Terminator 1 & 2
Ilsa Lund - Casablanca

Raiders Army · 12-28-2006, 01:30 PM

The Girl (Seven Year Itch)
Erin Brockovich (Erin Brockovich)
Sarah Connor (Terminator)
Dorothy (The Wizard of Oz)

I went with two old school, two new school.

digamma · 12-28-2006, 01:41 PM

Three legit contenders in Scarlett O'Hara, Dorothy and Sugar Kane Kowalczyck (Some Like it Hot) go along with the object of my youthful desires: Cindy Mancini (Can't Buy Me Love).

rkmsuf · 12-28-2006, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by digamma

Three legit contenders in Scarlett O'Hara, Dorothy and Sugar Kane Kowalczyck (Some Like it Hot) go along with the object of my youthful desires: Cindy Mancini (Can't Buy Me Love).

dude, you are the man. that's is so balls on.

Eaglesfan27 · 12-28-2006, 01:45 PM

Scarlett O'Hara - Gone With the Wind
Dorothy - Wizard of Oz
Princess Leia - Star Wars
Selene - Underworld and Underworld: Evolution

Schmidty · 12-28-2006, 01:45 PM

Beatrix Kiddo (Kill Bill)

Adrian Pennino (Rocky)

Celie (The Color Purple)

Scout (To Kill a Mockingbird)

Antmeister · 12-28-2006, 01:52 PM

Ellen Ripley - Alien
Regan Teresa MacNeil - The Exorcist
Carrie White - Carrie
The Bride/Beatrix Kiddo/Black Mambo - Kill Bill 1 & 2

Raiders Army · 12-28-2006, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by digamma

go along with the object of my youthful desires: Cindy Mancini (Can't Buy Me Love).

Yeah, I wonder where that dork Ronald Miller ever ended up. I bet he can't get any chicks now.

Dutch · 12-28-2006, 02:33 PM

Mia Wallace
Alabama Whitman
Sydney Fuller
The Girl

AnalBumCover · 12-28-2006, 03:12 PM

Maria (Sound of Music)
Leia (Star Wars)
The Bride (Kill Bill)
Clarice (Silence of the Lambs)

gkb · 12-28-2006, 03:16 PM

Ellen Ripley - Sigourney Weaver in Aliens
Clarice Starling - Jodie Foster in Silence of the Lambs
Alex Forrest - Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction
Ariel - The Little Mermaid

Axxon · 12-28-2006, 03:19 PM

Cruella DaVille
Emmanuelle
Maude ( from Harold and Maude )
Ellen Ripley

rkmsuf · 12-28-2006, 03:20 PM

this list so far seems to indicate we have some weak female roles overall when you get two real answers and then all these periphery entries.

Clarice? Erin Brokavick? Those are the best female characters ever?

I don't have the answer, more of an observation I guess.

DanGarion · 12-28-2006, 03:43 PM

Tia Bella from 'Deep Inside Tia Bella'

ntndeacon · 12-28-2006, 03:52 PM

Margo Channing from All About Eve
Ilsa Lund from Casablanca
Mrs. Iselin from Manchurian Candidate
Susan Olean from Adaptation

Fonzie · 12-28-2006, 04:19 PM

Scarlett O'Hara - Gone With the Wind
Dorothy - Wizard of Oz
Nurse Ratched - One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest
Princess Leia - Star Wars

Surtt · 12-28-2006, 04:34 PM

Scarlett O'Hara
Doroth
Cleopatra
Linda Lovelace

Eaglesfan27 · 12-28-2006, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Fonzie

Scarlett O'Hara - Gone With the Wind
Dorothy - Wizard of Oz
Nurse Ratched - One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest
Princess Leia - Star Wars

I would have completely agreed with your list if One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest and the good nurse hadn't helped scare people from psychiatric hospitals so much. I had a 14 year old that I had to hospitalize freaking out the other day because she didn't believe me that psychiatric hospitals aren't any thing like that movie. I was so impressed that she had actually seen the movie, that I almost reconsidered my decision

Axxon · 12-28-2006, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Surtt

Scarlett O'Hara
Doroth
Cleopatra
Linda Lovelace

Linda Lovelace was a real person not a character.

Cleopatra should be disqualified a la Quiksand's Joan of Arc rule.

I don't know who Doroth is though.

JPhillips · 12-28-2006, 05:48 PM

Martha- Who's Afraid of Virginia Wolfe
Scarlett O'Hara- GWTW
Dorothy- Wizard of Oz
Norma Desmond- Sunset Boulevard

Surtt · 12-28-2006, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Axxon

Linda Lovelace was a real person not a character.

Cleopatra should be disqualified a la Quiksand's Joan of Arc rule.

I don't know who Doroth is though.

Linda Lovelace is credited with playing herself in Deep Throat, which is the role I was thinking of.
It was probably mostly a case of being in the right place at the right time,
but the Lovelace and the movie had a huge impact on American culture.

When I was trying to come up with famous roles, Cleopatra was one of the first ones that came to mind.
But thinking it over, a poor choice; more famous for the media circus around Elizabeth Taylor then anything else.
(I wish I would have thought of Nurse Ratchet)

Fonzie · 12-28-2006, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I would have completely agreed with your list if One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest and the good nurse hadn't helped scare people from psychiatric hospitals so much. I had a 14 year old that I had to hospitalize freaking out the other day because she didn't believe me that psychiatric hospitals aren't any thing like that movie. I was so impressed that she had actually seen the movie, that I almost reconsidered my decision

That's precisely why I put Ratched on my list: her character was damned scary. I'd even go so far as to say she's one of the best villains in cinema history. The cold, heartless "helper" in a position of power over mentally ill/impaired individuals who desperately rely upon her - what could be worse?

It is certainly true that the movie didn't help the public perception of inpatient mental health care (which, in the mid 70's, wasn't too terribly great anyway). But I believe it is a testament to the greatness of the character that she still influences the way folks perceive mental health care 30 years on (rightly or wrongly).

3ric · 12-28-2006, 06:44 PM

Ellen Ripley - Sigourney Weaver (Alien 1-4)
Phyllis Dietrichson - Barbara Stanwyck (Double Indemnity)
Catherine Tramell - Sharon Stone (Basic Instinct)
Margo Channing - Bette Davis (All about Eve)

3ric · 12-28-2006, 06:46 PM

...and Lara Croft got famous through the Tomb Raider game(s), not the Tomb Raider movie(s)

ntndeacon · 12-28-2006, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Fonzie

That's precisely why I put Ratched on my list: her character was damned scary. I'd even go so far as to say she's one of the best villains in cinema history. The cold, heartless "helper" in a position of power over mentally ill/impaired individuals who desperately rely upon her - what could be worse?

It is certainly true that the movie didn't help the public perception of inpatient mental health care (which, in the mid 70's, wasn't too terribly great anyway). But I believe it is a testament to the greatness of the character that she still influences the way folks perceive mental health care 30 years on (rightly or wrongly).

Nurse Ratched just missed my list and Istruggled over taking Susan Orlean over her. But that was such a wonderful character in Adaptation and I wanted something a little more recent too.

Shkspr · 12-28-2006, 10:29 PM

Scarlett O'Hara
Norma Desmond
Holly Golightly
Mrs. Robinson

Fonzie · 12-28-2006, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Shkspr

Scarlett O'Hara
Norma Desmond
Holly Golightly
Mrs. Robinson

Oooh...Mrs. Robinson. Excellent call.

Buccaneer · 12-28-2006, 11:07 PM

Jen Yu (CTHD)
Mei (House of Flying Daggers)
Chiyo (Memoirs of a Geisha)
Scarlett (GWTW)

What?

Shkspr · 12-28-2006, 11:14 PM

Well, there's a question I'm afraid to ask in Face the Board...

Buccaneer · 12-28-2006, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Shkspr

Well, there's a question I'm afraid to ask in Face the Board...

Someone already did.

Shkspr · 12-28-2006, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

Someone already did.

As I just read.

dime · 12-28-2006, 11:26 PM

Maude Lebowski.

cuervo72 · 12-28-2006, 11:38 PM

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Oooh...Mrs. Robinson. Excellent call.

Bah, I mentioned her 12 hours ago in the FOBL chat.

stevew · 12-28-2006, 11:57 PM

I couldn't fit Annie Hall onto my list.

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QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	It's okay to include a character who was also in a book or elsewhere... but don't submit someone like, say, Joan of Arc because of her fame from other sources, unless she merits it solely based on her portrayal in one or more movies.

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QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	Hmmm... we tossed around several of the names here, but completely forgot about Norma Desmond. Dang. I think our Sister Maria slot might be up for grabs once she reads this thread, though. I don't see how you can have this list without Scartett and Dorothy, though, even if you're prone to emphasizing more recent films.

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