Smoking weed

[Karlifornia]

For some reason, mary jane has made me curious tonight. I haven't smoked any, although I do have a bit tucked away just in case I want to make TV funny again. What I wanna know is, where does FOFC stand on the green plant that makes people high? We know it's illegal in the US because the government is too lazy to regulate it. We know that, behind alcohol, it is the most popular way for people to alter their consciousness.

Have you ever smoked pot? If so, why, but more importantly, if no, why not?

How often do you smoke it?

Do you do it alone, or with friends?

Do you ever buy weed? If yes, do you have any funny stories that have happened during marijuana-purchasing transactions?

Does smoking weed make text-sims better? I have never played one while high.

If you don't smoke weed, what is your perception of people who do?

Do you think that weed should be decriminalized, or even made legal? Why yes or why no?

Do you think medicinal marijuana is a good idea? Why or why not?

I'm hoping for some honest dialogue. I've added a poll.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

I would like to use my 5th Ammendment right now, your honour.

[johnnyshaka]

Never have...never will...why? Doesn't interest me in the least. No problem with anybody else who cares to indulge...I just hate the stench on my clothes afterwards if I've been around those who care to partake.

[Karlifornia]

Originally Posted by M GO BLUE!!!

I would like to use my 5th Ammendment right now, your honour.

LOL, fair enough.

[DeToxRox]

When it’s all over said and done, I’ll still be standing, screaming this song.
Look me in the eyes and tell me what you see.
A standard issue mind.
Pure, clean and drug free.
I have made my choice.
This is my voice to teach what I believe is the right way for me.
This is my voice.
I am proud to be drug free.
This says it all.


Oh come on, someone had to post something like this.

Danny
- Drug free

[DeToxRox]

Dola - I don't smoke it obviously but if someone does it, no qualms.

[Karlifornia]

Originally Posted by johnnyshaka

Never have...never will...why? Doesn't interest me in the least. No problem with anybody else who cares to indulge...I just hate the stench on my clothes afterwards if I've been around those who care to partake.

Maybe I should give that multi-quote button a try. It sort of scares me, though. Anyhoo...

Thank you for answering honestly. The smell is definitely less than great. You know those little car air fresheners that people hang from their rear-view mirrors? They have ones that smell like weed. I can't understand it.

[Karlifornia]

Originally Posted by DeToxRoxDVHStyle

When it’s all over said and done, I’ll still be standing, screaming this song.
Look me in the eyes and tell me what you see.
A standard issue mind.
Pure, clean and drug free.
I have made my choice.
This is my voice to teach what I believe is the right way for me.
This is my voice.
I am proud to be drug free.
This says it all.


Oh come on, someone had to post something like this.

Danny
- Drug free

Dude...can you hook me up with a D.A.R.E. frisbee?

[Ragone]

Originally Posted by Karlifornia

Dude...can you hook me up with a D.A.R.E. frisbee?

apparently they now give free lifetime coupons for fries at mcdonalds instead of frisbee's. i feel gipped

[DeToxRox]

Originally Posted by Karlifornia

Dude...can you hook me up with a D.A.R.E. frisbee?

I'd be G.L..A.D too, but if I can't, you'd be S.A.D.D and you may hit the bottle and try to come over and steal one, which would make a lot of people M.A.D.D.

Also .. NAACP.

[cthomer5000]

Don't do it personally, but i'm pro-drugs in general. go drugs!

[molson]

Tried it once or twice in college - not enough to "get it", I suppose.

I have no problem with it or people that use it in general, but people who are obnoxious in their praise of it is a little annoying. Any time you watch say, Conan O'Brien or SNL, and marijuana is even mentioned, there's like 20 people in the audience that go nuts and cheer for like 5 seconds. Total posers.

[Karlifornia]

Originally Posted by molson

Tried it once or twice in college - not enough to "get it", I suppose.

I have no problem with it or people that use it in general, but people who are obnoxious in their praise of it is a little annoying. Any time you watch say, Conan O'Brien or SNL, and marijuana is even mentioned, there's like 20 people in the audience that go nuts and cheer for like 5 seconds. Total posers.

I agree that the subculture is lame. David Cross has a whole bit about it on one of his comedy cd's. "4:20, it's the best time to smoke, maaaaaan"

[DeToxRox]

Originally Posted by Karlifornia

I agree that the subculture is lame. David Cross has a whole bit about it on one of his comedy cd's. "4:20, it's the best time to smoke, maaaaaan"

High Times solved the JFK assassination!

[st.cronin]

I don't understand the appeal at all.

[kcchief19]

I'm in between option one and option two. I would never use marijuana and don't think anyone should use it for recreational purposes. It's nothing about marijuana in particular, I'm just not big on products that significantly alter your mental state and put you at a greater risk of harming yourself or others. To that degree, if you want to smoke pot in your house, as long as you're not bothering me, I shouldn't necessarily care what you do.

I don't necessarily have a problem with marijuana for medicinal purposes, I'm just not convinced of it's benefits. My understanding is that by and large for almost every claim of benefit, there is a more legitimate drug the performs the same function without the side effects.

I think much of both the appeal and the dislike of marijuana has much to do with society's puritanical approach to the subject. If we didn't make it so taboo, I think fewer people would be interested in it. I'll admit that I'd feel differently about it's usage if it were legal.

No offense, but another reason for my dislike of marijuana has been alluded to above. People high on weed are not nearly as entertaining as they think they are -- just like drunks are nearly as amusing as they think they are either.

[sabotai]

I would answer this survey, but I got high

[Karlifornia]

Originally Posted by kcchief19

I'm in between option one and option two. I would never use marijuana and don't think anyone should use it for recreational purposes. It's nothing about marijuana in particular, I'm just not big on products that significantly alter your mental state and put you at a greater risk of harming yourself or others. To that degree, if you want to smoke pot in your house, as long as you're not bothering me, I shouldn't necessarily care what you do.

I don't necessarily have a problem with marijuana for medicinal purposes, I'm just not convinced of it's benefits. My understanding is that by and large for almost every claim of benefit, there is a more legitimate drug the performs the same function without the side effects.

I think much of both the appeal and the dislike of marijuana has much to do with society's puritanical approach to the subject. If we didn't make it so taboo, I think fewer people would be interested in it. I'll admit that I'd feel differently about it's usage if it were legal.

No offense, but another reason for my dislike of marijuana has been alluded to above. People high on weed are not nearly as entertaining as they think they are -- just like drunks are nearly as amusing as they think they are either.

Cool, man. Thanks for a thoughtful answer.

[sabotai]

Have you ever smoked pot? If so, why, but more importantly, if no, why not?

Yes, in my much younger days. I did it because, simply put, I wanted to know what it felt like to be high. There wasn't much I wouldn't try back then. I was pretty....inquisitive. I'm probably lucky I was never around any of the "hard drugs" because I would have tried them without thinking. I fully admit "not thinking" was a problem I had in my youth (but boy was it fun).

How often do you smoke it?

Not anymore. Haven't in several years.

Do you do it alone, or with friends?

Never smoked alone. It was always with friends.

Do you ever buy weed? If yes, do you have any funny stories that have happened during marijuana-purchasing transactions?

A few times, no funny stories. I did get pulled over once while I had some on me that I just bought (and I was baked out of my skull). Very happy the cop did not smell it.

Does smoking weed make text-sims better? I have never played one while high.

Haha, this was mostly before I played text sims.

Do you think that weed should be decriminalized, or even made legal? Why yes or why no?

Legalize It. Compared to what is legal, I don't think it makes sense for it to be illegal.

Do you think medicinal marijuana is a good idea? Why or why not?

I can't see why anyone would at against research to find out what medical benefits it has, if any.

[Ragone]

The whole legalize marijuana bs spiel always leads to another interesting topic

If Alcohol or Tobacco in its current form was just released today(just discovered and hitting the market, with noone having prior knowledge of its existance).. Would the Fda ban it?

[Pyser]

i'd just like to point out there are over 100 stores in los angeles that sell weed. im talking they have storefronts. you need a prescription to go inside, but you can find a doctor that will give you one in the back of a magazine.

its turning into amsterdam here.

[Karlifornia]

Originally Posted by Ragone

The whole legalize marijuana bs spiel always leads to another interesting topic

If Alcohol or Tobacco in its current form was just released today(just discovered and hitting the market, with noone having prior knowledge of its existance).. Would the Fda ban it?

This is a great question, and I think anyone would be hard pressed to say no at first glance. However, they are bigtime money makers, and that's what this country is all about.

[Marc Vaughan]

If Alcohol or Tobacco in its current form was just released today(just discovered and hitting the market, with noone having prior knowledge of its existance).. Would the Fda ban it?

They'd both be banned instantly in most countries imho - smoking is starting to get banned around the world now from what I can see.

I wonder if alcohol will pop up next on their list of things to ban?

[Vince]

I have, if only once or twice, and it wasn't for me. I have no problem with people doing it for medicinal or recreational purposes.

[Ragone]

Originally Posted by Karlifornia

This is a great question, and I think anyone would be hard pressed to say no at first glance. However, they are bigtime money makers, and that's what this country is all about.

Thats the thing.. with no prior knowledge.. they have no idea what kinda money it would make

Therefore, the all bad side effects would far outweigh the non-existant positives

[JonInMiddleGA]

I thought sure this thread was going to be about Quincy Carter.

[Schmidty]

I've never even smoked a cigarette, let alone marijuana.

If people want to smoke it, fine. Just don't do it around me.

No, I'm not against legalization, although I sure as hell wouldn't want my kid or future kids to do it.

[Lorena]

I was the only one in my circle of friends that didn't smoke it. The first and only time I tried I... ahem... didn't inhale. I was about to when a cop came by and I had to drop the joint.

I don't have a problem with people doing it; it doesn't really matter to me. As a matter-of-fact, I'm pretty sure some of our neighbors smoke it because I can smell it once in a while.

[Julio Riddols]

I smoke it often, and I find it an enjoyable break from a world I don't really see eye to eye with most of the time. I like the peaceful easy feeling (no pun intended) that goes along with it, and the general goodwill of every smoker I have ever been around keeps me in that crowd.

Yeah, people have their perceptions about it, some think its lame, and its not for everyone- For me, aside from what I have already covered above, its a decision I made when I was on my own, no pressure from anyone to start smoking. I tried it with my girlfriend and we had a great time just talking about ideas as to the origins of God and human nature, and other things we probably wouldn't even get into nearly as much otherwise- Both of us really enjoyed that. I felt it brought us closer for sure, and after trying it a few times and getting a little more used to the feeling of being high, I realized it didnt make me any less functional as a human- I made up my mind not to do it irresponsibly- I won't drive on it, I won't go to work high, etc.

Legalizing and regulating it is something I am for, because for what it does to you compared to what alcohol does, I think there can be an argument made that it is less harmful for sure. I've never seen anyone black out or get violent when they smoke, I've never seen or heard of anyone dying solely from the effects of smoking it.

How often do I smoke it? Daily. I usually smoke when I wake up and a little while before I go to bed. I sleep like a baby when I am high, theres nothing like the feeling of laying down and stretching out and getting comfortable when I do that. Waking up to it instantly puts me in a good sociable mood regardless of my company, as well as making a shower feel a lot more refreshing.

Do I buy it? Yeah, I do.. I have friends who are willing to provide a high just for my company, like most every stoner I have ever known, but I have high standards. I like a certain buzz, so I buy certain types.

There aren't any really funny stories about it, the most interesting one would probably be the time my roommate went to buy me some for my birthday and wound up smoking before she came back home - Its sort of a traditional thing I guess, the seller typically smokes out the buyer before or after a transaction.. She doesn't smoke it often, so it was funny watching her be silly as hell after her friend brought her back to the apartment. We watched 'A Scanner Darkly' and enjoyed the hell out of it.

Medicinal Marijuana: While I am not highly educated on the subject, and I am not a sufferer, I think marijuana could be an excellent treatment for eating disorders, anxiety, bipolar disorder, and probably a few other significant things. Again, I am not highly educated on the perceived benefits of the drug as a medicinal treatment, but my personal experience with it would lead me to believe the above.

It is also useful as hemp, etc.

In the end, it is something I am obviously passionate enough about to give a damn and write this long of a post on it. I see countries where it is legalized, and I see the articles about the crime rates being lower, etc.. I see states getting closer every year to decriminalizing it, and it leaves me optimistic. You can call me a hippie or whatever, but theres nothing about the drug that doesn't appeal to me except for when it is of low quality. I think it makes people more humane and more peaceful.. I'm very artistically inclined and very eccentric, and I find the enhancement it provides me in my imagination and my general mood far outweigh whatever perceived negative effects there are.

I agree some people do it stupidly, and that sheds a negative light on it, but I don't believe it is anywhere near as bad as alcohol. Fiorello Laguardia commisioned a report on it back when it was made illegal which concluded that it had none of the perceived negative effects attached to it by people like Harry Anslinger, who made a political career out of his fight to make it illegal.

hxxp://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/Library/studies/lag/lagmenu.htm

Theres the report, for what its worth. I think its a great example of how propaganda lead to the criminalization of marijuana in the first place, as it seems to find very little negative about the effects of the drug.

[Julio Riddols]

And oh yeah.. The immersion factor goes up tenfold when I play any game high, but text sims especially because it leaves a lot of the imagery up to the minds eye.

Also, just because that was my 666th post doesn't mean smokers are the devil.

[Schmidty]

Would you suck a dick for a joint?

[Julio Riddols]

Without question.

[Toddzilla]

Unfortunately, most smokers aren't as rational or responsible as Julio. Kudos for your honesty and your openness Julio.

[Subby]

I really hate pot culture.

[Raiders Army]

Never have. Probably never will, but if I'm hurting real bad from some sickness maybe.

[Julio Riddols]

Thanks, but I don't see any reason to be ashamed of it. Its a personal choice to do it, and I was lucky to have a decent family around me in my youth to give me the tools to form my own opinions later in life.

I have to say I am pretty surprised at the poll numbers so far. I can tell I am interacting with a very different crowd than I am used to being around, because I know maybe one or two people who haven't smoked at least once in their life, while roughly 1 out of 6 of us hasn't ever according to the poll.

I think it would be interesting to see the results of a similar poll for the drinkers and tobacco users on the site.

[lungs]

Put me in the often stage.

As for the medicinal part of it, I had quite the experience just yesterday. Usually I smoke it recreationally but this weekend I ate a pizza from Pizza Hut that gave me projectiles coming out of both ends and a heavy dose of nausea. After a few puffs, the nausea subsided and it has helped me with my appetite. It does work, albeit only temporarily.

I do smoke almost every day if I have it. 99% of the time it is from the comfort of my own home. I've got my degree and an excellent job and I don't feel it has any negative consequences in those areas. I have no kids and it does not affect me one bit financially.

I have been cited once for marijuana possession. Just a simple $235 fine and no court appearance. Thankfully they didn't criminally prosecute me as that would've really screwed me and I would have lost all my financial aid for college. I think it's pretty damn stupid to take away financial aid for college kids for simple possession. I can understand possession w/intent to deliver but simple possession is just ridiculous.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

Thanks, but I don't see any reason to be ashamed of it. Its a personal choice to do it, and I was lucky to have a decent family around me in my youth to give me the tools to form my own opinions later in life.

I have to say I am pretty surprised at the poll numbers so far. I can tell I am interacting with a very different crowd than I am used to being around, because I know maybe one or two people who haven't smoked at least once in their life, while roughly 1 out of 6 of us hasn't ever according to the poll.

I think it would be interesting to see the results of a similar poll for the drinkers and tobacco users on the site.

You suddenly seem kind of defensive for someone who professes to be happy with his "drug" use.

[Julio Riddols]

I wasn't being defensive at all there.. I didn't quote Toddzilla before I wrote the message, where I was trying to say I have no reason to hide the fact that I smoke from anyone here. By the time I typed my message, a couple people had posted, so it probably came out of context a bit.. If youre talking about the interest I have in a poll for people who use tobacco or drink, I just think it would be very interesting. I think a lot of parallels can be drawn between the three and it is just a circumstance that one happens to be illegal right now.

I know you don't advocate the use of it or appreciate it around you, and thats fine. I wouldn't smoke around you knowing that, out of respect for your stance on it. For my friends that dislike it, I do not smoke it when I am around them or if I am going to be around them, either. Its just common courtesy.

As for me, theres nothing to defend. I would rather people draw their own conclusions on it. I used to be straight edge until I was 21, so its not like I can't see the other side of the coin here either.

[Subby]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

You suddenly seem kind of defensive for someone who professes to be happy with his "drug" use.

That's just the ass-reaming paranoia from his over the top marijuana addiction!

[Drake]

Though I realize you're joking, Subbster, cannabis addiction doesn't exist (in terms of physical dependency). You're much more likely to get hooked on over the counter cold medicine.

[Subby]

Originally Posted by Drake

Though I realize you're joking, Subbster, cannabis addiction doesn't exist (in terms of physical dependency). You're much more likely to get hooked on over the counter cold medicine.

YOU KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT EVERYTHING!!11

[Julio Riddols]

No, Subby is right..

Weed Is Like Oxygen

Time on my side
I got it all
I've heard that pride
Always comes before a fall
There's a rumour goin' round the town
That you don't want me around
I can't shake off my city blues
Everyway I turn I lose

Chorus
Weed is like oxygen
You get too much you get too high
Not enough and you're gonna die
Weed gets you high

Time is no healer
When you're not there
Lonely fever
Sad words in the air
Some things are better left unsaid
I'm gonna spend my days in bed
I'll walk the streets at night
To be hidden by the city lights city lights.

[Pumpy Tudors]

I've never used it and almost certainly never will. I just don't really have any reason to start, which also applies to smoking and drinking for me. While tobacco and alcohol are readily available, I don't even know where to buy marijuana. I mean, people make it sound like you can get it pretty much whenever you want (and considering how many people use it, I guess it's true), but nobody's ever offered me marijuana. Even if I wanted it, I don't think I'd be able to get it.

Edit to add: As far as other people's usage of it, it doesn't matter to me. I don't care when they use it or what they use it for. If they want to do it, fine with me.

[lordscarlet]

I appear to be in the majority. I don't do it, I never have, and I couldn't care less if others do. Actually, I could care less -- I care about the issue in that I don't believe it should be illegal, but I don't care if you do it.

[nole4sho]

I am in college and smoking helps ease my stress.

[Lathum]

I did when I was younger and it was available. I never went out of my way to buy it and it has been years since I have smoked, I think I kind of outgrew it.

I think there should be an " I used to smoke but don't anymore " option.

[Drake]

Originally Posted by Subby

YOU KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT EVERYTHING!!11

Nah. I just spent five years working in drug rehab. The standard response to someone seeking treatment for cannabis addiction was "pfft".

Well, until we shifted focus to a behavior modification model, anyway. Then we just told them: "Smoking weed led to these consequences. If you don't like those consequences, stop smoking weed."

Note that this doesn't preclude the notion of a purely psychological or emotional dependency, but in those cases, the substance abuse is usually more of a symptom of the problem (trauma, exacerbating mental illness, etc.) rather than the problem itself. Of course, until someone actually reaches the stages of physical dependency with any substance, that is largely true.

Oh, and put me in the "used to smoke weed, but doesn't anymore" camp. I don't have anything against it. I just sort of grew out of it by the time I was in my late teens. I think I've burned one two or three times in the last twenty years.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

I've never used it and almost certainly never will. I just don't really have any reason to start, which also applies to smoking and drinking for me. While tobacco and alcohol are readily available, I don't even know where to buy marijuana. I mean, people make it sound like you can get it pretty much whenever you want (and considering how many people use it, I guess it's true), but nobody's ever offered me marijuana. Even if I wanted it, I don't think I'd be able to get it.

I thought your wife was a college professor? Just ask her, she can get some for you.

[CU Tiger]

I have used it, too mnay times to begin to count.
I went through a 4-5 year period of my life that I stayed high on something 99% of the time. Looking back it was a coping mechanism and not something I am ashamed of nor proud of, it juts was part of my life. I literally spent years where I couldnt get out of bed with cocaine, crank, or some perscription shit and couldn't go to sleep without copiuos amounts of alcohol or a joint. Still I graduated and worked full time through all this, looking back its humorous all the shit I went through to get high.

After graduating and getting married I continued. I only stopped because of a "experience" in my life where I felt a strong conviction to get clean. having said that and because of personal spiritual commitments I have made I will personally never use any illegal drug again. However from my experience I do not see anything overly harmful with responsible marijuana use (despite the sound thats not an oxymoron). The biggest dawback I see to it, and the one I keep hammering on a close friend of mine now, is the possible repercussions. For 5 years I worked in an industry where I would have been immediately fired for any criminal conviction, and no high would have been worth losing my income.

So, No I dont use anymore.
I see no problem in others using.
[Side note, I LOVE THE SMELL, I think its euphoric just smelling it]
Im not honestly informed enough to even comment on medicinal uses, but wouldnt object to it.
I do agree that the sub culture is annoying as hell and is quite honestly more counter productive to any potential for future legalization than anything.
And while I would personally still not partake, I do think it should be legalized. I read one time hwo much money is spent tracking, prosecuting, and jailing marijuana users and honestly it seems like a waste.
I say good old American policy of legalizing it then taxing it to where it is margianlly economically feasible but makes the gov't a ton of Money, you know the tobacco plan, would bring revenue into both federal and state governemnts that would be shockingly beneficial.

Oh and one last point, I think many older adults would be shocked to know how many users there are in every walk of life. I hav epersonlly known a dentist, a surgeon, a school teacher, and a NASA employee that smoked pot...