Can I run FOF on my Mac with this program?

samifan24 · 10-27-2008, 04:19 PM

Here's an interesting situation. I haven't played FOF since I bought my Macbook back in January. I don't have Parallels or a copy of Windows because I don't use Windows programs on a regular basis. That could all change if this program can run FOF on my Mac.

A small Mac developer called CodeWeavers is giving away its flagship program, CrossOver and CrossOver Games, for free tomorrow as part of a "Lame Duck Presidency" promotion. The company promised free software if President Bush accomplished any of a list of predetermined goals before Election Day. One of the goals, to lower the national gas price average below a certain amount, has been met and now the developers are keeping their promise.

Politics aside, free software is free software. Ars Technica reports that CrossOver Games uses "a commercial version of the Wine open source Windows compatibility layer." I have no idea what this means.

Does this mean I can run FOF on my Mac without Windows?

Pyser · 10-27-2008, 05:32 PM

thatd be awesome! i run parallels and it sucks. it takes FOREVER to load and ties up the whole macbook, basically. ill definitely dl this program and see if it works.

Fidatelo · 10-27-2008, 06:08 PM

I hope you guys are successful, but I have a feeling the eLicense stuff is going to bork things up. Keep us posted!

Router Help · 10-27-2008, 07:01 PM

I tried getting an elicense game to work with Wine a few years ago with no luck. Things may have changed with newer versions though.

lordscarlet · 10-27-2008, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyser

thatd be awesome! i run parallels and it sucks. it takes FOREVER to load and ties up the whole macbook, basically. ill definitely dl this program and see if it works.

VMWare Fusion is supposed to be much faster.

samifan24 · 10-27-2008, 11:49 PM

The free software promotion is now active today only, October 28. If you have a Mac you might as well check this out.

rjolley · 10-28-2008, 06:05 AM

Thanks for this. I've tried Crossover on Linux a few times. This is a good way to get the full version for free.

Looks like the CodeWeavers' site has been slammed with registrations. you have to get your serial number before midnight CST, but you have an additional 48 hours to unlock your copy.

Pyser · 10-28-2008, 12:32 PM

so do we want to dl Download CrossOver Mac Pro or Download CrossOver Games Mac?

samifan24 · 10-28-2008, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyser

so do we want to dl Download CrossOver Mac Pro or Download CrossOver Games Mac?

You can and should download both. I had no trouble downloading both programs late last night (after midnight) and then unlocked the full versions with the registration code they sent me. I understand that they've changed the way they're activating the programs today because they're so swamped but you should be able to at least do what I did and download the trial versions and unlock them sometime this week.

Pyser · 10-28-2008, 12:55 PM

yeah, i dled both to be safe, just waiting for the code to be emailed

so which one should play fof? the games one, im assuming?

samifan24 · 10-28-2008, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyser

yeah, i dled both to be safe, just waiting for the code to be emailed

so which one should play fof? the games one, im assuming?

Yes, the Games one, although I'm waiting back on an e-mail to the eLicence people to see if their software will work with this software. My guess is that the eLicense is a dealbreaker but I can still play Morrowind.

samifan24 · 10-28-2008, 08:40 PM

The eLicense people told me that I can try to run FOF this way but it is not officially supported. I'll just try to install it and see if it works.

JediKooter · 10-28-2008, 08:50 PM

Samifan, I'll be interested to know if it works or not as I'm on a Mac and it's been over a year since I've played FOF.

flere-imsaho · 10-29-2008, 08:53 AM

Couldn't you use Boot Camp for this?

lordscarlet · 10-29-2008, 08:53 AM

Damn. Forgot to do this.

samifan24 · 10-29-2008, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by flere-imsaho

Couldn't you use Boot Camp for this?

Yes but that would involve my installing Windows on my Mac.

samifan24 · 10-29-2008, 03:12 PM

It works!!

Fidatelo · 10-29-2008, 04:36 PM

Nice!

Pyser · 10-29-2008, 05:59 PM

woohooo!!!! bye bye, parallels!!

Router Help · 10-29-2008, 06:05 PM

Awesome, still waiting for my registration code. WSM is the only thing that I can't get running perfectly in Ubuntu. Hopefully this works!

JediKooter · 10-29-2008, 06:29 PM

Dang it!!!! I forgot to get my registration codes.....

samifan24 · 10-29-2008, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JediKooter

Dang it!!!! I forgot to get my registration codes.....

If you signed up, you still have a week to get the actual registration codes.

JediKooter · 10-29-2008, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by samifan24

If you signed up, you still have a week to get the actual registration codes.

Nope, epic fail on my part. Didn't even sign up.

lordscarlet · 10-29-2008, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JediKooter

Nope, epic fail on my part. Didn't even sign up.

+1

samifan24 · 10-29-2008, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JediKooter

Nope, epic fail on my part. Didn't even sign up.

You may get a second chance. The "Lame Duck" promotion included six different criteria. There's still a realistic chance that another goal of the six, to lower the price of a gallon of milk below a certain price, will be met. You may still be in luck.

rjolley · 10-29-2008, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by samifan24

You may get a second chance. The "Lame Duck" promotion included six different criteria. There's still a realistic chance that another goal of the six, to lower the price of a gallon of milk below a certain price, will be met. You may still be in luck.

Out of curiosity, what were the other conditions?

samifan24 · 10-29-2008, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by rjolley

Out of curiosity, what were the other conditions?

I guess CodeWeavers decided to end the promotion yesterday after they gave away over 500,000 free copies of their software.

I can't find the original list on their blog anymore but when I read it a few days ago I took it to mean that CodeWeavers would give away free software for a day for each goal that was met.

I give them credit for keeping their word on the promotion but I bet it killed their sales goals. In the video below, the CodeWeavers guys react to the promotion:

rjolley · 10-29-2008, 09:35 PM

If this works well enough, I'll definitely buy it when/if I get a MacBook Pro.

lordscarlet · 10-30-2008, 07:43 AM

Yeah, I will probably buy it at some point. I wouldn't even know about it if not for the promotion. It could be a great way to run ANSI programs.

Nice Guy Eddie · 10-30-2008, 12:06 PM

How long does it take to receive the code?

samifan24 · 10-30-2008, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Nice Guy Eddie

How long does it take to receive the code?

It only took me about 10 minutes.

Pyser · 10-30-2008, 12:26 PM

i still havent gotten mine

Nice Guy Eddie · 10-30-2008, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyser

i still havent gotten mine

Neither have I, and I requested it two days ago

samifan24 · 10-30-2008, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyser

i still havent gotten mine

I would wait about a week. If you still haven't heard from them, I'd send them an e-mail. I read on their website that registrations were going to take up to a week so I was surprised when I downloaded and registered in about 15 minutes (this was around 12:30 AM).

Pyser · 10-30-2008, 03:52 PM

i actually got it about a half hour ago.

already up and running on fof2k4! this is amazing, thank god

samifan24 · 10-30-2008, 05:24 PM

I am finding some small bugs in the game and I'm not sure if they've always been there or if I'm encountering them because of the way I'm playing the game. The first bug I found was that most scouts and agents are referred to by their first names only, both on the list of team scouts and on every player agent page. I managed to figure out how to change the starting year to 2008 through the editor since I'm playing with a fictitious universe but am not sure if I can do anything else to offset these small annoyances.

Nice Guy Eddie · 10-31-2008, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by samifan24

I am finding some small bugs in the game and I'm not sure if they've always been there or if I'm encountering them because of the way I'm playing the game. The first bug I found was that most scouts and agents are referred to by their first names only, both on the list of team scouts and on every player agent page. I managed to figure out how to change the starting year to 2008 through the editor since I'm playing with a fictitious universe but am not sure if I can do anything else to offset these small annoyances.

how did this turn out? Is FOF worth playing this way?

Pyser · 10-31-2008, 01:19 PM

ive been playing around on 2k4 so far, and will do some more testing later.

one time i couldnt type in english. the letter u, for example, gave me an umlaut. but when i closed and re-opened, it typed in english again.

also, you cannot move the windows that you open in the game. you just cant drag them anywhere, which is odd

however, it doesnt tie up the entire mac, like parallels did, and i didnt have to install all of windows on my computer, so thats a plus...

samifan24 · 10-31-2008, 02:12 PM

Yeah, I'm still experiencing some minor bugs as well. The most annoying bug is the fact that I cannot move the windows in the game. They're not click and drag, for some reason, and so they all pile up on each other if I open too man windows (and I can't close them by clicking on them again, which seems odd). Also, I find that the text on the screen lags sometimes when you open a new window. If the first player on a list is named "Adam Smith" then all players on the list will appear to be named "Adam Smith" momentarily as the new window loads. These are only small annoyances, though, and I'm happy to run FOF on my Mac without Windows.

As an aside, I installed Morrowind this afternoon but haven't be able to launch the game. I sent a support ticket in to the developers and am waiting to hear back from them.

Pyser · 10-31-2008, 02:50 PM

first time i advanced to the next season in fof2k4 it couldnt load previous season stats. then the whole file corrupted. not good.

samifan24 · 10-31-2008, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyser

first time i advanced to the next season in fof2k4 it couldnt load previous season stats. then the whole file corrupted. not good.

Have you had any luck with this? Is the game now unplayable?

Nice Guy Eddie · 10-31-2008, 07:21 PM

I wish he were playing with FOF 2007.

Pyser · 10-31-2008, 07:23 PM

so far i havent been able to advance past year 1 without those errors.

switching to fof2k7 now

Nice Guy Eddie · 10-31-2008, 09:51 PM

it's likely this program is not going to end up being a solution.

Is it possible though that the game should not be run on crossover games, but rather Crossover Pro?

samifan24 · 10-31-2008, 10:09 PM

I've been running it with Crossover Games. I haven't tried just using Crossover but it might make sense since Games was apparently designed for graphics intensive games like Quake, Team Fortress and the like. If you install FOF using Crossover, please share the results.

Nice Guy Eddie · 10-31-2008, 10:55 PM

I don't even have the code yet

Pyser · 11-01-2008, 01:13 AM

thats a great idea. but now i have a new problem. i have no idea how to unlicense the game in crossover games to try it in pro. any thoughts?

samifan24 · 11-01-2008, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Pyser

thats a great idea. but now i have a new problem. i have no idea how to unlicense the game in crossover games to try it in pro. any thoughts?

What happens when you try to install it with Crossover? Does it think that you're trying to install the game twice on the same computer? I think Crossover and Crossover Games give you plenty of options on where to save the game. Maybe you can use the "manage bottles" utility?

Pyser · 11-01-2008, 01:12 PM

it asks to license the game again, and im out of licenses since i cant figure out how to unlicense the crossover games copy....and i have no idea how to just move it over to crossover. unless somoene has a 2k4 license they can donate to the cause (pm me)

Nice Guy Eddie · 11-01-2008, 03:43 PM

just try it with 2k7

10-27-2008, 06:08 PM	#3
Fidatelo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB	I hope you guys are successful, but I have a feeling the eLicense stuff is going to bork things up. Keep us posted! __________________ "Breakfast? Breakfast schmekfast, look at the score for God's sake. It's only the second period and I'm winning 12-2. Breakfasts come and go, Rene, but Hartford, the Whale, they only beat Vancouver maybe once or twice in a lifetime."

10-27-2008, 11:49 PM	#6
samifan24 Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: NC	The free software promotion is now active today only, October 28. If you have a Mac you might as well check this out. __________________ "You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball...and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time." -Jim Bouton

10-28-2008, 08:40 PM	#12
samifan24 Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: NC	The eLicense people told me that I can try to run FOF this way but it is not officially supported. I'll just try to install it and see if it works. __________________ "You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball...and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time." -Jim Bouton

10-28-2008, 08:50 PM	#13
JediKooter Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: San Diego via Sausalito via San Jose via San Diego	Samifan, I'll be interested to know if it works or not as I'm on a Mac and it's been over a year since I've played FOF. __________________ I'm no longer a Chargers fan, they are dead to me Coming this summer to a movie theater near you: The Adventures of Jedikooter: Part 4

10-29-2008, 08:53 AM	#15
lordscarlet Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Washington, DC	Damn. Forgot to do this. __________________ Sixteen Colors ANSI/ASCII Art Archive "...the better half of the Moores..." -cthomer5000

10-27-2008, 05:32 PM	#2
Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	thatd be awesome! i run parallels and it sucks. it takes FOREVER to load and ties up the whole macbook, basically. ill definitely dl this program and see if it works.

10-27-2008, 07:01 PM	#4
Router Help Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ferndale, MI now in Chicago, IL	I tried getting an elicense game to work with Wine a few years ago with no luck. Things may have changed with newer versions though.

10-28-2008, 06:05 AM	#7
rjolley College Starter Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Roseville, CA	Thanks for this. I've tried Crossover on Linux a few times. This is a good way to get the full version for free. Looks like the CodeWeavers' site has been slammed with registrations. you have to get your serial number before midnight CST, but you have an additional 48 hours to unlock your copy.

10-28-2008, 12:32 PM	#8
Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	so do we want to dl Download CrossOver Mac Pro or Download CrossOver Games Mac?

10-28-2008, 12:55 PM	#10
Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	yeah, i dled both to be safe, just waiting for the code to be emailed so which one should play fof? the games one, im assuming?

10-29-2008, 08:53 AM	#14
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	Couldn't you use Boot Camp for this?

10-29-2008, 03:12 PM	#17
samifan24 Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: NC	It works!! __________________ "You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball...and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time." -Jim Bouton

10-29-2008, 04:36 PM	#18
Fidatelo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB	Nice! __________________ "Breakfast? Breakfast schmekfast, look at the score for God's sake. It's only the second period and I'm winning 12-2. Breakfasts come and go, Rene, but Hartford, the Whale, they only beat Vancouver maybe once or twice in a lifetime."

10-29-2008, 05:59 PM	#19
Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	woohooo!!!! bye bye, parallels!!

10-29-2008, 06:05 PM	#20
Router Help Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ferndale, MI now in Chicago, IL	Awesome, still waiting for my registration code. WSM is the only thing that I can't get running perfectly in Ubuntu. Hopefully this works!

10-29-2008, 06:29 PM	#21
JediKooter Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: San Diego via Sausalito via San Jose via San Diego	Dang it!!!! I forgot to get my registration codes..... __________________ I'm no longer a Chargers fan, they are dead to me Coming this summer to a movie theater near you: The Adventures of Jedikooter: Part 4

10-29-2008, 09:35 PM	#28
rjolley College Starter Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Roseville, CA	If this works well enough, I'll definitely buy it when/if I get a MacBook Pro.

10-30-2008, 07:43 AM	#29
lordscarlet Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Washington, DC	Yeah, I will probably buy it at some point. I wouldn't even know about it if not for the promotion. It could be a great way to run ANSI programs. __________________ Sixteen Colors ANSI/ASCII Art Archive "...the better half of the Moores..." -cthomer5000

10-30-2008, 12:06 PM	#30
Nice Guy Eddie Banned Join Date: Mar 2008	How long does it take to receive the code?

10-30-2008, 12:26 PM	#32
Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	i still havent gotten mine

10-30-2008, 03:52 PM	#35
Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	i actually got it about a half hour ago. already up and running on fof2k4! this is amazing, thank god

10-30-2008, 05:24 PM	#36
samifan24 Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: NC	I am finding some small bugs in the game and I'm not sure if they've always been there or if I'm encountering them because of the way I'm playing the game. The first bug I found was that most scouts and agents are referred to by their first names only, both on the list of team scouts and on every player agent page. I managed to figure out how to change the starting year to 2008 through the editor since I'm playing with a fictitious universe but am not sure if I can do anything else to offset these small annoyances. __________________ "You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball...and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time." -Jim Bouton

10-31-2008, 01:19 PM	#38
Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	ive been playing around on 2k4 so far, and will do some more testing later. one time i couldnt type in english. the letter u, for example, gave me an umlaut. but when i closed and re-opened, it typed in english again. also, you cannot move the windows that you open in the game. you just cant drag them anywhere, which is odd however, it doesnt tie up the entire mac, like parallels did, and i didnt have to install all of windows on my computer, so thats a plus...

10-31-2008, 02:12 PM	#39
samifan24 Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: NC	Yeah, I'm still experiencing some minor bugs as well. The most annoying bug is the fact that I cannot move the windows in the game. They're not click and drag, for some reason, and so they all pile up on each other if I open too man windows (and I can't close them by clicking on them again, which seems odd). Also, I find that the text on the screen lags sometimes when you open a new window. If the first player on a list is named "Adam Smith" then all players on the list will appear to be named "Adam Smith" momentarily as the new window loads. These are only small annoyances, though, and I'm happy to run FOF on my Mac without Windows. As an aside, I installed Morrowind this afternoon but haven't be able to launch the game. I sent a support ticket in to the developers and am waiting to hear back from them. __________________ "You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball...and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time." -Jim Bouton

10-31-2008, 02:50 PM	#40
Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	first time i advanced to the next season in fof2k4 it couldnt load previous season stats. then the whole file corrupted. not good.

10-31-2008, 07:21 PM	#42
Nice Guy Eddie Banned Join Date: Mar 2008	I wish he were playing with FOF 2007.

10-31-2008, 07:23 PM	#43
Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	so far i havent been able to advance past year 1 without those errors. switching to fof2k7 now

10-31-2008, 09:51 PM	#44
Nice Guy Eddie Banned Join Date: Mar 2008	it's likely this program is not going to end up being a solution. Is it possible though that the game should not be run on crossover games, but rather Crossover Pro? Last edited by Nice Guy Eddie : 10-31-2008 at 09:58 PM.

10-31-2008, 10:09 PM	#45
samifan24 Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: NC	I've been running it with Crossover Games. I haven't tried just using Crossover but it might make sense since Games was apparently designed for graphics intensive games like Quake, Team Fortress and the like. If you install FOF using Crossover, please share the results. __________________ "You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball...and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time." -Jim Bouton

10-31-2008, 10:55 PM	#46
Nice Guy Eddie Banned Join Date: Mar 2008	I don't even have the code yet

11-01-2008, 01:13 AM	#47
Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	thats a great idea. but now i have a new problem. i have no idea how to unlicense the game in crossover games to try it in pro. any thoughts?

11-01-2008, 01:12 PM	#49
Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	it asks to license the game again, and im out of licenses since i cant figure out how to unlicense the crossover games copy....and i have no idea how to just move it over to crossover. unless somoene has a 2k4 license they can donate to the cause (pm me)

11-01-2008, 03:43 PM	#50
Nice Guy Eddie Banned Join Date: Mar 2008	just try it with 2k7

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