More Tough NFL Trivia, version 7.0

Marmel · 03-26-2003, 12:53 PM

1) Who served as head coach of the Indianapolis Colts during an 0-13 start in 1986?

2) Against which NFL quarterback did Giants cornerback Will Allen notch his first NFL interception against?

3) What Redskins running back, in 1933, became the first player in NFL history to rush for 200 yards in a game?

4) Who was the first player to make it to the Pro-Bowl as a defensive player one year and an offensive player the next? For bonus points, name the positions.

5) The NFL record for most seasons leading the league in field goals is 5. Name the former Cleveland Browns star. For bonus points, give me his nickname and the other position he played.

Fritz is not allowed to answer these questions. He knows why.

Ryche · 03-26-2003, 01:00 PM

5. Lou Groza, The Toe...I think he was an offensive lineman, maybe a tackle.

henry296 · 03-26-2003, 01:01 PM

5. Lou "The Toe" Groza and he was a lineman as well.

1. Ted Marchibroda?

Todd

Marmel · 03-26-2003, 01:05 PM

Ryche chimed in first with the correct answer to #5, and the bonus. He was a tackle, as you said.

henry, Marchibroda is incorrect.

Aylmar · 03-26-2003, 01:17 PM

1. Rod Dowhower?

Marmel · 03-26-2003, 01:26 PM

Correct, Aylmar.

That leaves #2, 3, and 4

HornedFrog Purple · 03-26-2003, 01:31 PM

I'll take a guess on #3. If they were still in Boston (I know they moved sometime in the 30's) , it should be Mr. Everything Jim Musick.

Marmel · 03-26-2003, 01:32 PM

HFP: No.

HornedFrog Purple · 03-26-2003, 01:33 PM

Cliff Battles?

Marmel · 03-26-2003, 01:34 PM

Cliff Battles is correct, HFP. Good job.

#2 and #4 are left.

henry296 · 03-26-2003, 01:38 PM

2. Donovan McNab?

I might have been first on the Groza question, if the web had responded quicker.

Todd

Marmel · 03-26-2003, 01:40 PM

Good guess, but no, henry.

Aylmar · 03-26-2003, 01:43 PM

2. Jake Plummer?

(Just thinking of INT throwing QBs in his division at the time...)

Marmel · 03-26-2003, 01:59 PM

Correct Aylmar.

Just #4 is left.

Bee · 03-26-2003, 02:06 PM

I'll take a wild guess at #4.

Sammy Baugh? QB and S.

Marmel · 03-26-2003, 02:18 PM

Bee: No.

henry296 · 03-26-2003, 02:27 PM

Chuck Bednarik - LB and OL

Todd

Marmel · 03-26-2003, 02:31 PM

henry, no.

Bee · 03-26-2003, 02:40 PM

George Connor (sp?) did it as an OL and LB as well, but I'm assuming you are looking for someone before him because I think he did it around the same time as Bednarik.

Marmel · 03-26-2003, 03:30 PM

Bee, no.

It was the first person to do it, so it was earlier than that.

HornedFrog Purple · 03-26-2003, 03:32 PM

Was he a 49er?

Ryche · 03-26-2003, 05:24 PM

4. Bronco Nagurski, DT and RB

Marmel · 03-26-2003, 06:04 PM

No Ryche.

He was a NY Giant.

wudu · 03-26-2003, 06:35 PM

Red Badgro, DE/OE, 1931/32

Marmel · 03-26-2003, 11:07 PM

wudu, No.

How bout if I give you the positions:

defensive back and half back.

nilodor · 03-26-2003, 11:21 PM

Red Grange?

Marmel · 03-27-2003, 11:06 PM

nilodor, incorrect.

bosshogg23 · 03-28-2003, 12:31 AM

Dont cheat on your wife while on video Frannnnnnnnnnnk Giffordddddddddddddddd!!!!!!!!!!

I thought it was him but looked it up to be sure......cheater I am.....right I am......

ISiddiqui · 03-28-2003, 12:33 AM

Marmel · 03-28-2003, 09:02 AM

Yes boss hogg, but you get no credit for cheating.

Bee · 03-28-2003, 09:17 AM

I think you need to check you stats again Marmel. I know Gifford wasn't the first because Connor did it before him.

Marmel · 03-28-2003, 09:39 AM

Bee, you may be correct, but I cannot verify this anywhere.

Gifford was in the Pro Bowl in 53 for defense, and 54 for offense.

As far as I can tell, Connor played tackle on O and D from 50-53, and then strictly linebacker for 54 and 55.

I cannot seem to find his Pro-Bowl accomplishments, but if he went twice from 50-53, we would also have to see for what position he went for.

Still, I guess this brings up enough doubt that the question was not a good one.

Sorry.

Bee · 03-28-2003, 09:52 AM

From what I've been able to find out:

Connor was a all-pro "tackle" in 49 and 50. I don't know if that is offense or defense.

In 51, he was an all-pro OT and DT.
In 52, he was an all-pro OT and LB.
In 53, he was an all-pro OT and LB.

I had known Connor was a stud on both sides of the ball and played in that time period, but this kinda surprised me.

There is a possibility someone may have done it before him, but I can't find all-pro team lists for both offense and defense before 1951. I had actually thought Sammy Baugh had done it before then as a safety and QB, but I can't find info about the all-pro teams back then. I do know he led the NFL in interceptions as a safety the same year he led the league in passing as a QB, which is just too dang impressive.

Marmel · 03-28-2003, 10:01 AM

Also, the question was worded to ask which player was a Pro-Bowler one year for defense, and then the next for offense. Connor may have been elected for his accomplishments on both sides of the ball each year.

Still, at least we learn something every day, huh?

03-26-2003, 01:26 PM	#6
Marmel Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Manchester, CT	Correct, Aylmar. That leaves #2, 3, and 4 __________________ 81-78 Cincinnati basketball writer P. Daugherty, "Connor Barwin playing several minutes against Syracuse is like kids with slingshots taking down Caesar's legions."

03-26-2003, 01:31 PM	#7
HornedFrog Purple Hattrick Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Fort Worthless, Tx	I'll take a guess on #3. If they were still in Boston (I know they moved sometime in the 30's) , it should be Mr. Everything Jim Musick. __________________ King of All FOFC Media!!! IHOF: Fort Worthless Fury- 2004 AOC Deep South Champions (not acknowledged via conspiracy)

03-26-2003, 01:32 PM	#8
Marmel Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Manchester, CT	HFP: No. __________________ 81-78 Cincinnati basketball writer P. Daugherty, "Connor Barwin playing several minutes against Syracuse is like kids with slingshots taking down Caesar's legions."

03-26-2003, 01:33 PM	#9
HornedFrog Purple Hattrick Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Fort Worthless, Tx	Cliff Battles? __________________ King of All FOFC Media!!! IHOF: Fort Worthless Fury- 2004 AOC Deep South Champions (not acknowledged via conspiracy)

03-26-2003, 01:34 PM	#10
Marmel Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Manchester, CT	Cliff Battles is correct, HFP. Good job. #2 and #4 are left. __________________ 81-78 Cincinnati basketball writer P. Daugherty, "Connor Barwin playing several minutes against Syracuse is like kids with slingshots taking down Caesar's legions."

03-26-2003, 01:00 PM	#2
Ryche College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Highlands Ranch, CO, USA	5. Lou Groza, The Toe...I think he was an offensive lineman, maybe a tackle. __________________ Some knots are better left untied.

03-26-2003, 01:01 PM	#3
henry296 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	5. Lou "The Toe" Groza and he was a lineman as well. 1. Ted Marchibroda? Todd __________________ "It's a great day for hockey" - "Badger" Bob Johnson

03-26-2003, 01:05 PM	#4
Marmel Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Manchester, CT	Ryche chimed in first with the correct answer to #5, and the bonus. He was a tackle, as you said. henry, Marchibroda is incorrect. __________________ 81-78 Cincinnati basketball writer P. Daugherty, "Connor Barwin playing several minutes against Syracuse is like kids with slingshots taking down Caesar's legions."

03-26-2003, 01:17 PM	#5
Aylmar High School Varsity Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Los Angeles	1. Rod Dowhower? __________________ "At its best, football is still football, an amalgam of thought and violence, chess with broken bones and shredded ligaments." -- Dave Kindred

03-26-2003, 01:38 PM	#11
henry296 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	2. Donovan McNab? I might have been first on the Groza question, if the web had responded quicker. Todd __________________ "It's a great day for hockey" - "Badger" Bob Johnson

03-26-2003, 01:40 PM	#12
Marmel Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Manchester, CT	Good guess, but no, henry. __________________ 81-78 Cincinnati basketball writer P. Daugherty, "Connor Barwin playing several minutes against Syracuse is like kids with slingshots taking down Caesar's legions."

03-26-2003, 01:43 PM	#13
Aylmar High School Varsity Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Los Angeles	2. Jake Plummer? (Just thinking of INT throwing QBs in his division at the time...) __________________ "At its best, football is still football, an amalgam of thought and violence, chess with broken bones and shredded ligaments." -- Dave Kindred

03-26-2003, 01:59 PM	#14
Marmel Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Manchester, CT	Correct Aylmar. Just #4 is left. __________________ 81-78 Cincinnati basketball writer P. Daugherty, "Connor Barwin playing several minutes against Syracuse is like kids with slingshots taking down Caesar's legions."

03-26-2003, 02:06 PM	#15
Bee Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fairfax, VA	I'll take a wild guess at #4. Sammy Baugh? QB and S.

03-26-2003, 02:18 PM	#16
Marmel Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Manchester, CT	Bee: No. __________________ 81-78 Cincinnati basketball writer P. Daugherty, "Connor Barwin playing several minutes against Syracuse is like kids with slingshots taking down Caesar's legions."

03-26-2003, 02:27 PM	#17
henry296 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	Chuck Bednarik - LB and OL Todd __________________ "It's a great day for hockey" - "Badger" Bob Johnson

03-26-2003, 02:31 PM	#18
Marmel Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Manchester, CT	henry, no. __________________ 81-78 Cincinnati basketball writer P. Daugherty, "Connor Barwin playing several minutes against Syracuse is like kids with slingshots taking down Caesar's legions."

03-26-2003, 02:40 PM	#19
Bee Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fairfax, VA	George Connor (sp?) did it as an OL and LB as well, but I'm assuming you are looking for someone before him because I think he did it around the same time as Bednarik.

03-26-2003, 03:30 PM	#20
Marmel Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Manchester, CT	Bee, no. It was the first person to do it, so it was earlier than that. __________________ 81-78 Cincinnati basketball writer P. Daugherty, "Connor Barwin playing several minutes against Syracuse is like kids with slingshots taking down Caesar's legions."

03-26-2003, 03:32 PM	#21
HornedFrog Purple Hattrick Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Fort Worthless, Tx	Was he a 49er? __________________ King of All FOFC Media!!! IHOF: Fort Worthless Fury- 2004 AOC Deep South Champions (not acknowledged via conspiracy)

03-26-2003, 05:24 PM	#22
Ryche College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Highlands Ranch, CO, USA	4. Bronco Nagurski, DT and RB __________________ Some knots are better left untied.

03-26-2003, 06:04 PM	#23
Marmel Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Manchester, CT	No Ryche. He was a NY Giant. __________________ 81-78 Cincinnati basketball writer P. Daugherty, "Connor Barwin playing several minutes against Syracuse is like kids with slingshots taking down Caesar's legions."

03-26-2003, 06:35 PM	#24
wudu n00b Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Oregon	Red Badgro, DE/OE, 1931/32

03-26-2003, 11:07 PM	#25
Marmel Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Manchester, CT	wudu, No. How bout if I give you the positions: defensive back and half back. __________________ 81-78 Cincinnati basketball writer P. Daugherty, "Connor Barwin playing several minutes against Syracuse is like kids with slingshots taking down Caesar's legions."

03-26-2003, 11:21 PM	#26
nilodor College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: calgary, AB	Red Grange?

03-27-2003, 11:06 PM	#27
Marmel Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Manchester, CT	nilodor, incorrect. __________________ 81-78 Cincinnati basketball writer P. Daugherty, "Connor Barwin playing several minutes against Syracuse is like kids with slingshots taking down Caesar's legions."

03-28-2003, 12:31 AM	#28
bosshogg23 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Philly	Dont cheat on your wife while on video Frannnnnnnnnnnk Giffordddddddddddddddd!!!!!!!!!! I thought it was him but looked it up to be sure......cheater I am.....right I am......

03-28-2003, 12:33 AM	#29
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	n/m __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams Last edited by ISiddiqui : 03-28-2003 at 12:34 AM.

03-28-2003, 09:02 AM	#30
Marmel Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Manchester, CT	Yes boss hogg, but you get no credit for cheating. __________________ 81-78 Cincinnati basketball writer P. Daugherty, "Connor Barwin playing several minutes against Syracuse is like kids with slingshots taking down Caesar's legions."

03-28-2003, 09:17 AM	#31
Bee Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fairfax, VA	I think you need to check you stats again Marmel. I know Gifford wasn't the first because Connor did it before him.

03-28-2003, 09:39 AM	#32
Marmel Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Manchester, CT	Bee, you may be correct, but I cannot verify this anywhere. Gifford was in the Pro Bowl in 53 for defense, and 54 for offense. As far as I can tell, Connor played tackle on O and D from 50-53, and then strictly linebacker for 54 and 55. I cannot seem to find his Pro-Bowl accomplishments, but if he went twice from 50-53, we would also have to see for what position he went for. Still, I guess this brings up enough doubt that the question was not a good one. Sorry. __________________ 81-78 Cincinnati basketball writer P. Daugherty, "Connor Barwin playing several minutes against Syracuse is like kids with slingshots taking down Caesar's legions."

03-28-2003, 09:52 AM	#33
Bee Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fairfax, VA	From what I've been able to find out: Connor was a all-pro "tackle" in 49 and 50. I don't know if that is offense or defense. In 51, he was an all-pro OT and DT. In 52, he was an all-pro OT and LB. In 53, he was an all-pro OT and LB. I had known Connor was a stud on both sides of the ball and played in that time period, but this kinda surprised me. There is a possibility someone may have done it before him, but I can't find all-pro team lists for both offense and defense before 1951. I had actually thought Sammy Baugh had done it before then as a safety and QB, but I can't find info about the all-pro teams back then. I do know he led the NFL in interceptions as a safety the same year he led the league in passing as a QB, which is just too dang impressive.

03-28-2003, 10:01 AM	#34
Marmel Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Manchester, CT	Also, the question was worded to ask which player was a Pro-Bowler one year for defense, and then the next for offense. Connor may have been elected for his accomplishments on both sides of the ball each year. Still, at least we learn something every day, huh? __________________ 81-78 Cincinnati basketball writer P. Daugherty, "Connor Barwin playing several minutes against Syracuse is like kids with slingshots taking down Caesar's legions."

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