1917 FOOL-H Season

Young Drachma · 12-06-2009, 02:49 AM

I wanted to use the Wayne's World clip where they say "Game On" but it wasn't on YouTube.

Young Drachma · 12-06-2009, 03:47 AM

May 1st Standings

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American League Standings
			W	L	PCT	GB
New York Yankees	17	9	.654	-
Philadelphia Athletics	18	10	.643	-
Washington Senators	14	13	.519	3.5
Boston Red Sox		14	14	.500	4.0
Louisville Black Caps	13	14	.481	4.5
Chicago Whales		13	15	.464	5.0
Detroit Tigers		12	15	.444	5.5
Baltimore Orioles	11	16	.407	6.5

National League Standings
			W	L	PCT	GB
Boston Beaneaters	17	10	.630	-
Pittsburgh Pirates	17	10	.630	-
Chicago Cubs		13	14	.481	4.0
New York Giants		13	14	.481	4.0
Brooklyn Dodgers	13	15	.464	4.5
Cincinnati Redlegs	13	15	.464	4.5
St. Louis Cardinals	11	15	.423	5.5
Philadelphia Phillies	9	19	.321	8.5

Young Drachma · 12-06-2009, 03:54 AM

STANDINGS AS OF JUNE 1, 1917

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American League Standings
			W	L	PCT	GB
New York Yankees	34	21	.618	-
Philadelphia Athletics	31	25	.554	3.5
Chicago Whales		29	28	.509	6.0
Louisville Black Caps	28	27	.509	6.0
Washington Senators	26	29	.473	8.0
Boston Red Sox		26	30	.464	8.5
Baltimore Orioles	25	31	.446	9.5
Detroit Tigers		25	31	.446	9.5

National League Standings
			W	L	PCT	GB
Pittsburgh Pirates	35	20	.636	-
Boston Beaneaters	32	24	.571	3.5
Brooklyn Dodgers	32	24	.571	3.5
New York Giants		30	26	.536	5.5
Chicago Cubs		27	28	.491	8.0
Cincinnati Redlegs	27	29	.482	8.5
St. Louis Cardinals	23	32	.418	12.0
Philadelphia Phillies	16	41	.281	20.0

Young Drachma · 12-06-2009, 03:56 AM

FOOL-H News: The All-Star Game Rosters Have Been Announced
Tuesday, July 3rd, 1917: It is not an easy task to pick the best players for the annual baseball classic -- the All-Star Game. It is not possible to please everybody. Whether we agree or not, they have been chosen... and here they are. The rosters for this year's FOOL-Historical All-Star Game have been announced.

For the American, the roster includes:
SP P. Perritt (WAS)
MR D. Crandall (BOS)
SP R. Collins (LOU)
SP E. Karger (NYY)
SP F. Smith (PHA)
CL W. Mitchell (LOU)
SP B. Steen (DET)
SP R. Aitchison (WAS)
CL S. Wood (NYY)
CL E. Hawk (CHA)
MR S. Conley (BOS)
SP H. Vaughn (BAL)
LF B. Ruth (BOS)
RF Z. Wheat (DET)
CF B. Kauff (BAL)
1B J. Harris (NYY)
2B A. Tesch (DET)
SS D. Bancroft (PHA)
3B J. Beckwith (CHA)
C F. Snyder (PHA)
C W. Schang (DET)
LF H. Wagner (WAS)
RF B. Paschal (CHA)
RF V. Duncan (PHA)
LF C. Cooper (PHA)
1B D. Gessler (CHA)
2B L. Magee (NYY)
2B B. Betzel (WAS)
.

For the National these players have been selected:
SP D. Vance (PIT)
SP R. Russell (CHN)
SP A. Mamaux (BRO)
SP B. Hunt (PIT)
SP D. Scanlan (CHN)
CL H. Suter (PIT)
CL C. Wheatley (BRO)
SP R. Marquard (BSN)
CL S. Smith (CIN)
CL T. Hughes (NYG)
MR E. Kantlehner (CHN)
MR J. Rowan (STL)
LF E. Roush (PIT)
CF T. Cobb (NYG)
RF C. Williams (NYG)
SS R. Hornsby (BRO)
C S. O'Neill (CHN)
1B D. Robertson (BSN)
2B J. Daubert (CHN)
3B E. Lennox (BSN)
C I. Wingo (BSN)
LF J. Jackson (NYG)
CF H. Heilmann (BRO)
SS W. Witt (CHN)
2B B. Kenworthy (NYG)
CF T. Walker (PHI)
2B E. Collins (BSN)
CF D. Zwilling (BSN)

Young Drachma · 12-06-2009, 03:57 AM

STANDINGS AS OF JULY 3, 1917

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American League Standings
			W	L	PCT	GB
Philadelphia Athletics	49	36	.576	-
New York Yankees	44	39	.530	4.0
Louisville Black Caps	44	40	.524	4.5
Detroit Tigers		43	41	.512	5.5
Boston Red Sox		42	43	.494	7.0
Washington Senators	41	43	.488	7.5
Chicago Whales		40	46	.465	9.5
Baltimore Orioles	33	52	.388	16.0

National League Standings
			W	L	PCT	GB
Pittsburgh Pirates	50	33	.602	-
Boston Beaneaters	50	35	.588	1.0
New York Giants		49	36	.576	2.0
Chicago Cubs		48	36	.571	2.5
Brooklyn Dodgers	46	39	.541	5.0
Cincinnati Redlegs	37	47	.440	13.5
St. Louis Cardinals	30	54	.357	20.5
Philadelphia Phillies	30	56	.349	21.5

Young Drachma · 12-06-2009, 04:01 AM

STANDINGS AS OF AUGUST 1, 1917

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American League Standings
			W	L	PCT	GB
New York Yankees	60	46	.566	-
Philadelphia Athletics	59	48	.551	1.5
Boston Red Sox		54	53	.505	6.5
Detroit Tigers		53	54	.495	7.5
Chicago Whales		53	55	.491	8.0
Louisville Black Caps	52	54	.491	8.0
Washington Senators	49	58	.458	11.5
Baltimore Orioles	42	66	.389	19.0

National League Standings
			W	L	PCT	GB
Boston Beaneaters	66	41	.617	-
Pittsburgh Pirates	62	44	.585	3.5
New York Giants		62	46	.574	4.5
Chicago Cubs		61	46	.570	5.0
Brooklyn Dodgers	51	56	.477	15.0
Cincinnati Redlegs	47	60	.439	19.0
Philadelphia Phillies	44	64	.407	22.5
St. Louis Cardinals	41	65	.387	24.5

Young Drachma · 12-06-2009, 04:20 AM

SEPTEMBER 1, 1917

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American League Standings
			W	L	PCT	GB
Louisville Black Caps	73	63	.537	-
Philadelphia Athletics	72	65	.526	1.5
New York Yankees	70	65	.519	2.5
Detroit Tigers		70	66	.515	3.0
Boston Red Sox		69	67	.507	4.0
Chicago Whales		67	70	.489	6.5
Washington Senators	59	77	.434	14.0
Baltimore Orioles	57	80	.416	16.5

National League Standings
			W	L	PCT	GB
Boston Beaneaters	84	52	.618	-
New York Giants		84	53	.613	.5
Pittsburgh Pirates	75	60	.556	8.5
Chicago Cubs		73	63	.537	11.0
Brooklyn Dodgers	64	72	.471	20.0
Cincinnati Redlegs	61	75	.449	23.0
St. Louis Cardinals	58	77	.430	25.5
Philadelphia Phillies	53	84	.387	31.5

Young Drachma · 12-06-2009, 04:23 AM

1917 FINAL STANDINGS

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American League Standings
			W	L	PCT	GB
Philadelphia Athletics	89	73	.549	-
Detroit Tigers		86	76	.531	3.0
Louisville Black Caps	85	77	.525	4.0
Chicago Whales		82	80	.506	7.0
New York Yankees	81	81	.500	8.0
Boston Red Sox		78	84	.481	11.0
Washington Senators	71	91	.438	18.0
Baltimore Orioles	68	94	.420	21.0

National League Standings
			W	L	PCT	GB
New York Giants		101	61	.623	-
Boston Beaneaters	100	62	.617	1.0
Pittsburgh Pirates	86	76	.531	15.0
Chicago Cubs		83	79	.512	18.0
Brooklyn Dodgers	80	82	.494	21.0
Cincinnati Redlegs	75	87	.463	26.0
St. Louis Cardinals	71	91	.438	30.0
Philadelphia Phillies	60	102	.370	41.0

Young Drachma · 12-06-2009, 04:38 AM

File is up.

EddieK · 12-06-2009, 08:57 AM

We need to have another level. The #1 overall pick lost 1.5 stars and contact rating. Some of these guys while they come in with high ratings do not belong in AAA because of their age.

TimGuru · 12-06-2009, 09:18 AM

Honestly, I think thats on you not on the game setup. Full historical draftees appear in the draft in the historical year that they played at least one major league game. By definition, they are "ready for the majors". Especially the first overall pick.

EddieK · 12-06-2009, 10:08 AM

I have had a few people that are not even close to their potential rating that have needed a year of seasoning. I've played a few modern day historical leagues with all 3 levels and have had them increase accordingly. I don't see the hurt in adding a AA to the league especially for guys who are 18,19 and 20.

Johnny93g · 12-06-2009, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddieK

I have had a few people that are not even close to their potential rating that have needed a year of seasoning. I've played a few modern day historical leagues with all 3 levels and have had them increase accordingly. I don't see the hurt in adding a AA to the league especially for guys who are 18,19 and 20.

Looks like he handled AAA hitting just fine, i think he still looks like a great player

gstelmack · 12-06-2009, 11:03 AM

Heck, even Nemoto lost 2-3 points of contact future by the time he peaked with plenty of time in A/AA/AAA.

Johnny93g · 12-06-2009, 11:08 AM

Pittsburgh's Ed Roush wins his 2nd straight batting title, but noone hits .400. Roush and Cobb get the closest, hitting .398 and .396 each.

With all the talk of Babe throwing a few innings in 1917, it doesn't happen. He spends the whole season in RF, hitting another 44 homers. That gives him 250 career home runs at the age of 22. I guess the question is, will he get to 714. With no injuries, and his current pace, he's there by 32.

Former #1 pick John Beckwith as developed into a stud. A 7 for power now, 29 homers, he's been getting better every year. Amazingly, drafted 2 years after Ruth, he's a year older!!

Walter Johnson finally has a Walter Johnson type season. 25-12, with a era in the mid 3's. Ofcourse, in real life, that era would be one of the worst of his career!!!

Good luck to the playoff teams, the Tigers, came back from last place in June to earn a spot.

TimGuru · 12-06-2009, 12:21 PM

The Tigers surge was pretty impressive. As was my Yankees' implosion, in its own way.

TimGuru · 12-06-2009, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddieK

I have had a few people that are not even close to their potential rating that have needed a year of seasoning. I've played a few modern day historical leagues with all 3 levels and have had them increase accordingly. I don't see the hurt in adding a AA to the league especially for guys who are 18,19 and 20.

Not that I think a change is necessary at all, but in the event one was deemed necessary, I'd actually advocate the complete opposite, the abolition of the AAA level and maintaining just a reserve roster. This isn't the modern era.

Young Drachma · 12-06-2009, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimGuru

Not that I think a change is necessary at all, but in the event one was deemed necessary, I'd actually advocate the complete opposite, the abolition of the AAA level and maintaining just a reserve roster. This isn't the modern era.

This isn't a bad idea for a league like this. And it would solve the development issues.

What do others think of a reserve roster vs. a minor league?

gstelmack · 12-06-2009, 01:16 PM

I'm for whatever. I've had one or two guys hang around there to finish some development, but mostly I have a bunch of mid-20s guys doing nothing.

Johnny93g · 12-06-2009, 01:29 PM

what does the reserve roster do that AAA doesn't? What's the difference between the 2?

Young Drachma · 12-06-2009, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny93g

what does the reserve roster do that AAA doesn't? What's the difference between the 2?

Reserve roster players develop but there are no stats. And no need to move the players up a level, since there are no levels.

That's the only difference.

Young Drachma · 12-07-2009, 12:43 AM

Wednesday, October 24th, 1917
Boston Red Sox: 3B A. Devlin has executed his last optional contract year.
Chicago Whales: MR C. Robitaille has executed his last optional contract year.
New York Yankees: SP B. Hogg has executed his last optional contract year.
St. Louis Cardinals: 1B N. Lajoie retires.
Brooklyn Dodgers: MR R. Miller retires.
Boston Red Sox: 3B T. Turner retires.

Young Drachma · 12-07-2009, 01:01 AM

Spoiler

Young Drachma · 12-07-2009, 01:36 AM

Woo file is up. Congrats to our champ!!!

Johnny93g · 12-07-2009, 01:49 PM

3rd straight loss in the NLCS. Not good.

Congrats to Boston, looks like it was a great fall classic

Johnny93g · 12-07-2009, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

Reserve roster players develop but there are no stats. And no need to move the players up a level, since there are no levels.

That's the only difference.

I would be fine with that.

Alan T · 12-07-2009, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny93g

3rd straight loss in the NLCS. Not good.

Congrats to Boston, looks like it was a great fall classic

Thanks! I was quickly becoming the Atlanta Braves early with my ability to get to the playoffs repeatedly without actually winning much. Was nice to actually win it all for once

Molson_ootp · 12-07-2009, 03:58 PM

Finally able to reply to posts!!

Detroit GM here. Wow what a spring training. I guess I shouldn't have changed anything, but I had to demote someone, lol.

Grats to the playoff winners who keep bouncing me out!

I am at work now, but I think I have a 1b and a C that I need to deal in the off-season.

Great league guys!

If it were up to me I would want the AAA to stay around, and if we were to change I would rather see other lower levels added as opposed to removing AAA. I need a little more than ratings and ST results to promote a player.

Montreal_GM · 12-07-2009, 05:17 PM

Congratulations Alan!

Thanks DC for the continued effort and dedication.

Montreal_GM · 12-07-2009, 05:17 PM

Farewell Nap Lajoie. I love you!

12-06-2009, 09:18 AM	#11
TimGuru High School Varsity Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Cape Cod, MA	Honestly, I think thats on you not on the game setup. Full historical draftees appear in the draft in the historical year that they played at least one major league game. By definition, they are "ready for the majors". Especially the first overall pick. __________________ FOOL: NY Panthers1974-88 ; Hyannis Patriots 2037-2055 hiatus FOOL-H: NY YANKEES 1903- FOOL-X: Cumberland Defenders 1985-

12-06-2009, 11:03 AM	#14
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	Heck, even Nemoto lost 2-3 points of contact future by the time he peaked with plenty of time in A/AA/AAA. __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

12-06-2009, 11:08 AM	#15
Johnny93g College Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Toronto	Pittsburgh's Ed Roush wins his 2nd straight batting title, but noone hits .400. Roush and Cobb get the closest, hitting .398 and .396 each. With all the talk of Babe throwing a few innings in 1917, it doesn't happen. He spends the whole season in RF, hitting another 44 homers. That gives him 250 career home runs at the age of 22. I guess the question is, will he get to 714. With no injuries, and his current pace, he's there by 32. Former #1 pick John Beckwith as developed into a stud. A 7 for power now, 29 homers, he's been getting better every year. Amazingly, drafted 2 years after Ruth, he's a year older!! Walter Johnson finally has a Walter Johnson type season. 25-12, with a era in the mid 3's. Ofcourse, in real life, that era would be one of the worst of his career!!! Good luck to the playoff teams, the Tigers, came back from last place in June to earn a spot. __________________ FOOL- Toronto Marlboros FOOL Classic Champions 2073, 2078, 2079, 2114, 2116, 2117, 2129, 2152, 2155, 2169, 2192 46 35 FOOL H- New York Giants World Champions 1914, 1928 BBCF: Notre Dame TML

12-06-2009, 12:21 PM	#16
TimGuru High School Varsity Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Cape Cod, MA	The Tigers surge was pretty impressive. As was my Yankees' implosion, in its own way. __________________ FOOL: NY Panthers1974-88 ; Hyannis Patriots 2037-2055 hiatus FOOL-H: NY YANKEES 1903- FOOL-X: Cumberland Defenders 1985-

12-06-2009, 01:16 PM	#19
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	I'm for whatever. I've had one or two guys hang around there to finish some development, but mostly I have a bunch of mid-20s guys doing nothing. __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

12-06-2009, 03:56 AM	#4
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	FOOL-H News: The All-Star Game Rosters Have Been Announced Tuesday, July 3rd, 1917: It is not an easy task to pick the best players for the annual baseball classic -- the All-Star Game. It is not possible to please everybody. Whether we agree or not, they have been chosen... and here they are. The rosters for this year's FOOL-Historical All-Star Game have been announced. For the American, the roster includes: SP P. Perritt (WAS) MR D. Crandall (BOS) SP R. Collins (LOU) SP E. Karger (NYY) SP F. Smith (PHA) CL W. Mitchell (LOU) SP B. Steen (DET) SP R. Aitchison (WAS) CL S. Wood (NYY) CL E. Hawk (CHA) MR S. Conley (BOS) SP H. Vaughn (BAL) LF B. Ruth (BOS) RF Z. Wheat (DET) CF B. Kauff (BAL) 1B J. Harris (NYY) 2B A. Tesch (DET) SS D. Bancroft (PHA) 3B J. Beckwith (CHA) C F. Snyder (PHA) C W. Schang (DET) LF H. Wagner (WAS) RF B. Paschal (CHA) RF V. Duncan (PHA) LF C. Cooper (PHA) 1B D. Gessler (CHA) 2B L. Magee (NYY) 2B B. Betzel (WAS) . For the National these players have been selected: SP D. Vance (PIT) SP R. Russell (CHN) SP A. Mamaux (BRO) SP B. Hunt (PIT) SP D. Scanlan (CHN) CL H. Suter (PIT) CL C. Wheatley (BRO) SP R. Marquard (BSN) CL S. Smith (CIN) CL T. Hughes (NYG) MR E. Kantlehner (CHN) MR J. Rowan (STL) LF E. Roush (PIT) CF T. Cobb (NYG) RF C. Williams (NYG) SS R. Hornsby (BRO) C S. O'Neill (CHN) 1B D. Robertson (BSN) 2B J. Daubert (CHN) 3B E. Lennox (BSN) C I. Wingo (BSN) LF J. Jackson (NYG) CF H. Heilmann (BRO) SS W. Witt (CHN) 2B B. Kenworthy (NYG) CF T. Walker (PHI) 2B E. Collins (BSN) CF D. Zwilling (BSN)

12-06-2009, 04:38 AM	#9
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	File is up.

12-06-2009, 08:57 AM	#10
EddieK High School Varsity Join Date: Jun 2009	We need to have another level. The #1 overall pick lost 1.5 stars and contact rating. Some of these guys while they come in with high ratings do not belong in AAA because of their age.

12-06-2009, 10:08 AM	#12
EddieK High School Varsity Join Date: Jun 2009	I have had a few people that are not even close to their potential rating that have needed a year of seasoning. I've played a few modern day historical leagues with all 3 levels and have had them increase accordingly. I don't see the hurt in adding a AA to the league especially for guys who are 18,19 and 20.

12-06-2009, 01:29 PM	#20
Johnny93g College Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Toronto	what does the reserve roster do that AAA doesn't? What's the difference between the 2? __________________ FOOL- Toronto Marlboros FOOL Classic Champions 2073, 2078, 2079, 2114, 2116, 2117, 2129, 2152, 2155, 2169, 2192 46 35 FOOL H- New York Giants World Champions 1914, 1928 BBCF: Notre Dame TML

12-07-2009, 12:43 AM	#22
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Wednesday, October 24th, 1917 Boston Red Sox: 3B A. Devlin has executed his last optional contract year. Chicago Whales: MR C. Robitaille has executed his last optional contract year. New York Yankees: SP B. Hogg has executed his last optional contract year. St. Louis Cardinals: 1B N. Lajoie retires. Brooklyn Dodgers: MR R. Miller retires. Boston Red Sox: 3B T. Turner retires.

12-07-2009, 01:01 AM	#23
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Spoiler ALCS DETROIT V. PHILADELPHIA GAME 1: Detroit 10, Philadelphia 4 GAME 2: Philadelphia 8, Detroit 6 GAME 3: Philadelphia 3, Detroit 0 GAME 4: Detroit 6, Philadelphia 4 GAME 5: Detroit 6, Philadelphia 3 GAME 6: Detroit 5, Philadelphia 4 NLCS BOSTON V. NEW YORK GAME 1: New York 6, Boston 5 GAME 2: Boston 25, New York 14 GAME 3: Boston 6, New York 5 GAME 4: Boston 2, New York 1 GAME 5: New York 5, Boston 3 GAME 6: Boston 6, New York 5 FALL CLASSIC GAME 1: Boston 5, Detroit 4 GAME 2: Detroit 4, Boston 3 GAME 3: Detroit 13, Boston 10 GAME 4: Boston 9, Detroit 2 GAME 5: Boston 7, Detroit 5 GAME 6: Detroit 5, Boston 3 GAME 7: Boston 6, Detroit 4 GAME 8: Detroit 15, Boston 14 GAME 9: Boston 7, Detroit 4

12-07-2009, 01:36 AM	#24
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Woo file is up. Congrats to our champ!!!

12-07-2009, 01:49 PM	#25
Johnny93g College Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Toronto	3rd straight loss in the NLCS. Not good. Congrats to Boston, looks like it was a great fall classic __________________ FOOL- Toronto Marlboros FOOL Classic Champions 2073, 2078, 2079, 2114, 2116, 2117, 2129, 2152, 2155, 2169, 2192 46 35 FOOL H- New York Giants World Champions 1914, 1928 BBCF: Notre Dame TML

12-07-2009, 03:58 PM	#28
Molson_ootp n00b Join Date: Nov 2009	Finally able to reply to posts!! Detroit GM here. Wow what a spring training. I guess I shouldn't have changed anything, but I had to demote someone, lol. Grats to the playoff winners who keep bouncing me out! I am at work now, but I think I have a 1b and a C that I need to deal in the off-season. Great league guys! If it were up to me I would want the AAA to stay around, and if we were to change I would rather see other lower levels added as opposed to removing AAA. I need a little more than ratings and ST results to promote a player.

12-07-2009, 05:17 PM	#29
Montreal_GM College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2009	Congratulations Alan! Thanks DC for the continued effort and dedication. __________________ Kevin

12-07-2009, 05:17 PM	#30
Montreal_GM College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2009	Farewell Nap Lajoie. I love you! __________________ Kevin

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