Pete Carroll

Kodos · 01-14-2010, 02:25 PM

How long before he scurries back to college football when he can't cut it in the NFL?

Poll to come.

Rizon · 01-14-2010, 02:37 PM

Pete Carroll is to NFL Head Coaching as coffee straws are to staplers.

chesapeake · 01-14-2010, 03:28 PM

In 2018, after winning his 4th Super Bowl with the Seattle Seahawks, the fans will force his resignation after it is reported on the local NPR affiliate that the SUV parked in his spot at Seahawks HQ is not a hybrid.

path12 · 01-14-2010, 03:31 PM

Hasselbeck was pimping the local Hummer franchise for a few years IIRC, though now that they went under I think he switched to an Escalade.

But more on topic: Why must we hate? I'm trying to keep an open mind here.

chesapeake · 01-14-2010, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

Hasselbeck was pimping the local Hummer franchise for a few years IIRC, though now that they went under I think he switched to an Escalade.

But more on topic: Why must we hate? I'm trying to keep an open mind here.

Hasselbeck also endorsed Bush and has gotten away with it...for a while. I do get the sense that the bubbling of discontent with the team's shortcomings are starting to fall on his shoulders. And with his back and rib problems, he can only hold those up for so long.

DaddyTorgo · 01-14-2010, 03:42 PM

be nice to Hasselbeck!

flere-imsaho · 01-14-2010, 03:43 PM

Year 1: Finish near .500, second in the division to Arizona, miss out on Wild Card spot. "But that's OK, because we're rebuilding!"

Year 2: Finish one or two games worse than Year One, 3rd in the division (after Arizona & San Francisco). "Temporary setback! Difficult year! Injuries!"

Year 3: Bottom falls out. Wins 2 games. Resigns (rather than being fired) in December to return to USC after Lane Kiffin is forced to resign after an NCAA investigation documents numerous recruiting violations during his two tenures at USC.

...or not....

DaddyTorgo · 01-14-2010, 03:47 PM

I think he'll make it two...maybe 3 years. i voted for 2. i just think the guy doesn't understand how to treat nfl players. by all accounts he's a nice guy, so i hope maybe he learned, or will learn fast, cuz i'd like to see him succeed. but i'm not holding my breath.

molson · 01-14-2010, 03:51 PM

4 Years. I think he'll be modestly successful, something like:

8-8
10-6 (loses in divisional round)
11-5 (loses in NFC Championship Game)
9-7 (loses in divisional round)

Then somebody will give him a billion dollars for some relatively stress-free college situation like Oregon St. or Arizona or Cal, and he'll ride off into the sunset there.

RedKingGold · 01-14-2010, 05:41 PM

Pete Carroll will win a Super Bowl.

RainMaker · 01-14-2010, 05:42 PM

Pete Carroll might not be great, but the NFL has a lot of bad coaches. I think he hangs around awhile and does well for Seattle.

cougarfreak · 01-14-2010, 05:50 PM

I don't think Carroll wanted to go to pro football, but I think he knows the hammer is dropping at USC. I think he goes back to college football in 2 years. He's not a pro guy.

bulletsponge · 01-14-2010, 05:55 PM

i think he will be a solid HC like last time, but he will find it "too hard" and run back to college after 2 years. face it college is much easier

Young Drachma · 01-14-2010, 06:29 PM

I think he'll hang in the NFL a while. He's got nothing left to prove in college and honestly, no job will EVER be as cushy as his run with USC. So save for going to a rival and doing them dirty, he'll do the NFL thing for a while and then head to TV.

Glengoyne · 01-14-2010, 10:42 PM

I said two, but after more thought, Seattle may not be bad enough after two seasons to get rid of the golden boy. I really figured he'd just stay in college.

Bigsmooth · 01-14-2010, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by cougarfreak

I don't think Carroll wanted to go to pro football, but I think he knows the hammer is dropping at USC. I think he goes back to college football in 2 years. He's not a pro guy.

And Kiffin, etc bolted to join a sinking ship? Bottom line is Carroll left for the challenge, power, and most importantly, the cash money. He's putting together a really good staff, including probably Floyd Reese as GM. I think he'll have the Hawks playing well very soon. If they can grab a stud OT and a playmaker with their two 1st round picks, look out. Also, Carroll is 58, doubt he'll be jumping back down to college. Agree with the idea that if he does fizzle out, he'll end up on TV.

DaddyTorgo · 01-14-2010, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bulletsponge

i think he will be a solid HC like last time, but he will find it "too hard" and run back to college after 2 years. face it college is much easier

he wasn't a solid head coach last time. he was in wayyyyyyyy over his head

Big Fo · 01-14-2010, 11:19 PM

I picked three years but I'm not sure if it will be him quitting and going back to college ball or just getting fired.

BYU 14 · 01-15-2010, 09:16 AM

Pete's style just does not translate well to the pros. He was a great NFL coordinator, not so good as a head coach and even while at USC he was out coached when having superior talent more than once. In the NFL he won't enjoy that luxury.

I kind of see this experience turning out similar to Steve Spurriers.

chesapeake · 01-15-2010, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BYU 14

Pete's style just does not translate well to the pros. He was a great NFL coordinator, not so good as a head coach and even while at USC he was out coached when having superior talent more than once. In the NFL he won't enjoy that luxury.

I kind of see this experience turning out similar to Steve Spurriers.

I hope there is more substance to Carroll than there is to Spurrier. Certainly, Carroll's offensive and defensive philosophies are more suited to the NFL than were Spurrier's.

Carroll gets knocked a lot for being a 'rah rah' kind of guy. That can work in the NFL -- as long as it is genuine. See Vermiel, Dick.

I do think that his first season will be far below expectations. On ESPN radio yesterday morning, both Golic and Schlereth were saying that they felt that Seattle could easily be 8-8 next year. I don't know what team they were watching the last couple of years. The one I watched for every game went 4-12 and 5-11 and is old. And they seem to think that Walter Jones still plays there. I wish he did, but he's probably done.

Calis · 01-15-2010, 10:37 AM

I can see him doing decently next year. You couldn't ask for a better division to start in, especially if Warner is done this year. I think he can do decent next year and winds up actually doing worse in year 2.

I picked 3. I think it'll be the make or break year for him, but I'm inclined to think it won't end well.

I do think his chances are a lot better than Spurrier's though.

View Poll Results: How long before Pete Carroll scurries back to college football?
Less than a year	1	1.19%
1 year	3	3.57%
2 years	26	30.95%
3 years	32	38.10%
4 years	10	11.90%
5 years	4	4.76%
6 years	0	0%
7 years	0	0%
8 years	0	0%
9 years	0	0%
10 years	0	0%
Pete will stay in the NFL a long time	8	9.52%
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01-14-2010, 03:31 PM	#4
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Hasselbeck was pimping the local Hummer franchise for a few years IIRC, though now that they went under I think he switched to an Escalade. But more on topic: Why must we hate? I'm trying to keep an open mind here. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

01-14-2010, 03:42 PM	#6
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	be nice to Hasselbeck! __________________ Get bent whoever hacked my pw and changed my signature.

01-14-2010, 03:47 PM	#8
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	I think he'll make it two...maybe 3 years. i voted for 2. i just think the guy doesn't understand how to treat nfl players. by all accounts he's a nice guy, so i hope maybe he learned, or will learn fast, cuz i'd like to see him succeed. but i'm not holding my breath. __________________ Get bent whoever hacked my pw and changed my signature.

01-14-2010, 03:51 PM	#9
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	4 Years. I think he'll be modestly successful, something like: 8-8 10-6 (loses in divisional round) 11-5 (loses in NFC Championship Game) 9-7 (loses in divisional round) Then somebody will give him a billion dollars for some relatively stress-free college situation like Oregon St. or Arizona or Cal, and he'll ride off into the sunset there. Last edited by molson : 01-14-2010 at 03:52 PM.

01-14-2010, 03:28 PM	#3
chesapeake College Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Arlington, VA	In 2018, after winning his 4th Super Bowl with the Seattle Seahawks, the fans will force his resignation after it is reported on the local NPR affiliate that the SUV parked in his spot at Seahawks HQ is not a hybrid.

01-14-2010, 03:43 PM	#7
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	Year 1: Finish near .500, second in the division to Arizona, miss out on Wild Card spot. "But that's OK, because we're rebuilding!" Year 2: Finish one or two games worse than Year One, 3rd in the division (after Arizona & San Francisco). "Temporary setback! Difficult year! Injuries!" Year 3: Bottom falls out. Wins 2 games. Resigns (rather than being fired) in December to return to USC after Lane Kiffin is forced to resign after an NCAA investigation documents numerous recruiting violations during his two tenures at USC. ...or not....

01-14-2010, 05:41 PM	#10
RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	Pete Carroll will win a Super Bowl.

01-14-2010, 05:42 PM	#11
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	Pete Carroll might not be great, but the NFL has a lot of bad coaches. I think he hangs around awhile and does well for Seattle.

01-14-2010, 05:50 PM	#12
cougarfreak College Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Out of Grad School Hell :)	I don't think Carroll wanted to go to pro football, but I think he knows the hammer is dropping at USC. I think he goes back to college football in 2 years. He's not a pro guy.

01-14-2010, 05:55 PM	#13
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	i think he will be a solid HC like last time, but he will find it "too hard" and run back to college after 2 years. face it college is much easier

01-14-2010, 06:29 PM	#14
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	I think he'll hang in the NFL a while. He's got nothing left to prove in college and honestly, no job will EVER be as cushy as his run with USC. So save for going to a rival and doing them dirty, he'll do the NFL thing for a while and then head to TV.

01-14-2010, 10:42 PM	#15
Glengoyne Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Fresno, CA	I said two, but after more thought, Seattle may not be bad enough after two seasons to get rid of the golden boy. I really figured he'd just stay in college.

01-14-2010, 11:19 PM	#18
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	I picked three years but I'm not sure if it will be him quitting and going back to college ball or just getting fired.

01-15-2010, 09:16 AM	#19
BYU 14 Coordinator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The scorched Desert	Pete's style just does not translate well to the pros. He was a great NFL coordinator, not so good as a head coach and even while at USC he was out coached when having superior talent more than once. In the NFL he won't enjoy that luxury. I kind of see this experience turning out similar to Steve Spurriers. Last edited by BYU 14 : 01-15-2010 at 09:16 AM.

01-15-2010, 10:37 AM	#21
Calis College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Kansas	I can see him doing decently next year. You couldn't ask for a better division to start in, especially if Warner is done this year. I think he can do decent next year and winds up actually doing worse in year 2. I picked 3. I think it'll be the make or break year for him, but I'm inclined to think it won't end well. I do think his chances are a lot better than Spurrier's though.

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