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ESPN.com to launch "Heat Index"
It's a good thing the NBA doesn't air games on ESPN or this might be a conflict of interest .. oh wait.
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10-04-2010, 11:58 AM | #2 |
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What about Jack?
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10-04-2010, 12:05 PM | #3 |
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I think it's ESPN's goal to make the Heat one of the most hated teams in the NBA as an effort to boost ratings. Sorta like WWE does when it creates its superstar-laden heel factions.
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10-04-2010, 12:07 PM | #4 |
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So is it called Heat Vision or Heat Index?
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10-04-2010, 12:10 PM | #5 |
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10-04-2010, 12:14 PM | #6 |
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Glad the NBA isn't a superstar driven league because it really helps with the overall parity of the league where any team could win.
Ohh... wait... nevermind.
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10-04-2010, 12:18 PM | #7 |
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And the NBA continues it's slow descent from legit major sports league to a sports entertainment program willing to do anything for a quick buck. No conflict of interest here at all, move along.
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10-04-2010, 12:35 PM | #8 |
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The story of Brian Windhorst is definitely something. His career has been almost exclusively centered around writing about Lebron James, starting when he was in HS (now guess what HS Windhorst went to a couple years earlier ?) and then became Cavs beat writer when James got drafted.
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So essentially D-Wade did a major turn to heel.
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10-04-2010, 12:47 PM | #10 |
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10-04-2010, 01:30 PM | #12 |
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What about the Clipper Caravan?
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10-04-2010, 03:05 PM | #15 |
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This is fucking disgusting.
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10-04-2010, 03:08 PM | #16 |
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If it's done by Joe Buck, I'm burning my TV.
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10-04-2010, 03:12 PM | #17 |
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f*ck ESPN, each year i hate the NBA even more and part of that is the way espn cover the sport. if it wasnt for MNF or mls games i wouldnt bother with the channel
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10-04-2010, 03:13 PM | #18 |
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Didn't realize Windhorst did a heel turn too.
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10-04-2010, 03:16 PM | #19 |
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Wonder what "The Herminator" thinks about it.
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10-04-2010, 03:23 PM | #20 |
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It's also apparent that the writers are not allowed to talk negatively about Lebron or the Heat. When "The Decision" came on, they made a couple small remarks about how he could have done it better, but otherwise Bill Simmons was the only one I remember who shredded it. They in fact had Marc Jackson on to tell everyone how he had his kids watch to show them how a real man handles things and how Lebron was an inspiration (I'm not joking!).
We've also seen everyone trash Lebron and his cronies for the stupid racism remark. ESPN avoided it and they actually had someone write an article in support of it and J.A. Adande wrote something similar too. ESPN is just an entertainment and marketing company, they are not news in any way any longer. They are the marketing firm in charge of Lebron James. I'm fine with it as long as they stop trying to pretend to be journalists over there. They aren't. |
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I don't think we could find a better time for 2 or 3 torn ACLs.
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I just threw up in my mouth.
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10-04-2010, 06:59 PM | #27 |
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To be fair, they have a Tiger Woods tracker called Tracking Tiger they've had for years, as he pursues Jack Nicklaus' record. It's just giving people what they want or following intriguing storylines as a national publication/media outlet. If the Heat win, it's interesting and if they don't? Still interesting.
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10-04-2010, 07:07 PM | #28 |
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I'm not quite seeing the 'conflict of interest' angle. Unless ESPN is also letting Stu Scott ref these games or something.
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It's like when ESPN started showing Arena Football. Magically all those highlights made it on to SportsCenter when they hadn't been shown for years. There has to be seperation between entertainment and news. ESPN doesn't have that. |
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10-04-2010, 07:35 PM | #31 |
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ESPN's always paid extra-super attention to those teams and athletes and events they felt they could sell the best. I don't think they have ever claimed some journalistic duty to cover every team equally. I remember them once pointing out that well over half of their viewing audience (and their best demos in terms of youth and affluence) was in the eastern time zone, so the "east coast bias" made complete sense.
In the early days of ESPN, they helped make college basketball bigger because that was the only major sport they could afford to carry. Since they had it, they treated it like a big deal, and pretty soon - it became a huge deal. I don't see the moral issue with that (though I certainly can understand why people wouldn't want to buy what ESPN sells). Last edited by molson : 10-04-2010 at 07:51 PM. |
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They're a for-profit business, never seen them claim to be anything else. Their interest in "news" extends only so far as it's profitable & anyone who doesn't grasp that is too fucking stupid to own a television. FTR, I think you grasp it, you just don't like it.
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Following up my post on enjoying the heels in pro wrestling I'd just like to say I'm a big Heat fan this year.
The amount of completely irrational hate being thrown at this team makes me hope they win 73 and a title this year. |
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I hope Lebron, Wade and Bosh all stay healthy. I then hope they are defeated in the playoffs, while healthy. No excuses.
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Outside of Wade, the other two are failure famewhores who couldn't be succesful on their own. They created an All-Star team because they were talented enough to make their own teams better. Good heel teams bring out hate in fans. I remember despising those Bad Boy teams for what they did to Jordan. I don't despise the Heat. They're just some pathetic guys who trampled their own legacies. Last edited by RainMaker : 10-05-2010 at 01:32 AM. |
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This is all because they trampled over their own legacy? I'm not buying it and it's hatred like this that makes a great heel. I can understand Cleveland fans hating Lebron and cheering against the Heat because of it. I can understand current players hating it because they have to play against them. For everyone else, if you're on Skip Bayless' side on an issue it's time to do a self examination. |
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Good heels and good rivalries come naturally. This is all artificial. It's not just about winning, it's how it's done. Their winning means much less than any normally constructed team. They can win 80 games and it still isn't as impressive as Jordan's 72. They can win multiple titles and it's not as impressive as what Kobe did. Last edited by RainMaker : 10-05-2010 at 07:17 AM. |
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It's just a ploy to make Kobe the most beloved player in the NBA.
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You do realize that they have not bounce a ball in competitive play yet right? I actually get all the hate. If you gave me the choice between this and the irrelevancy of the last few years, I will take this every day of the week. But trampled their legacies? What legacy did Chris Bosh fuck up by going to the Heat? Oh I remember, he was well on his way to.....well...... I'll get back to that. Dwyane Wade's legacy? This POS had the absolute gall to resign with the team who drafted and the team that he won a title with. Let's move on to the real problem. Let me put everyone at ease. LEBRON JAMES SCREWED THE CAVS. Forget all this crap about how he had the right to go where he wanted. By not returning to the Cavs, he screwed that entire franchise and he was going to be hated for it. What I can't figure out is how the rules seem to shift from before "The Decision". The choices was clear. Loyalty to the Cavs, or going to a better situation somewhere else. Legacy and being the alpha dog on the team never seem to come into the equation. You talk about this team being artificial but there is more than one team going that will be artificial this year. Remember, this was the year of the salary cap room. It was something many teams (and fan bases) were happy with. For most, it was good strategy. In fact that strategy was used by several teams this summer. So as long as the Heat beat the other "artificially" teams and wins titles, I could care less about their collective legacy.
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Ya, I'm rooting for either a 73+ win season or a less than 50 win season. Those would deliver entertainment value. I have no "hatred" of them at all - all they did was pull of a major offseason talent aquisition (and managed to get guys who were willing to give up a lot to put that together.) This kind of "super-team" really isn't that difficult to put together in the NBA if you have players willing to do it. And these three are the only ones in recent times to actually try it. That's almost admirable in a way. "The Decision" was nauseating, but I'm over it. LeBron didn't screw the Cavs. They had LeBron and couldn't win - they're kind of a failed franchise. Last edited by molson : 10-05-2010 at 09:48 AM. |
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I will probably pay as much attention to ESPN.com's "Heat Index" as I do to ESPN.COM's ESPN.Boston/New York/Dallas and whatever, which is to say "absolutely zero."
ESPN is really easy to ignore. Sure, I watch college football, NFL football and the college football highlight show with Mark May, Lou Holtz and that other guy, but that's about it. Oh, I will watch Sports Center, but only when I am staying at a hotel.
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I don't hate the Miami Heat organization. Of course they were going to try to do what they ended up doing. Good for them. I despise and I mean despise what it's done to the league. I seriously hate Lebron James. He quit on the city of Cleveland last year. His last two games against the Celtics were despicable. It was almost like he was trying to look for a way out of Cleveland than to actually win with them. I just hope it becomes a train wreck. That's the only reason I'll even watch the NBA the next few years, hoping against hope that this thing blows up in his face so much that no other group of players will ever try it. I don't think I'll get my wish. I think the Heat will win 70+ games one year. I think they'll win multiple titles. But I will hope against hope it doesn't happen. |
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Just to be clear, I never have or will cheer an injury. I hope James doesn't get his wish of a title and this thing blows up, but I won't take any joy in seeing any of the three have blown out knees to get my wish. (if karma has a gripe with any of the three, it'd be James to get the injury anyway, not Wade)
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