March Madness Starting Ten (2014)

[Young Drachma]

PAST RESULTS:
2012 (Starting Eight)
2013

Here's the premise:

1. You pick a roster of any 10 players from the NCAA tournament field.
2. You score as many points as each of your drafted players scores in the NCAA tournament.
3. You get a multiplier for the seed of his team. (i.e. if Nate Wolters of 14th seeded South Dakota State scores 18 points, you would earn 252 points.)
4. "First Four"/play-in round games do not count towards the players point total.
5. Deadline is tip-off of the first games on Thursday.
6. There's a multiplier to each round the player scores points in.

So the 1st round (of 64) is just x1, each round after adds a x1 so:

Round of 32: x2
Sweet 16: x3
Elite 8: x4
Final 4: x5
Championship: x6

So if you have a guy who is a 1 seed who scores 20 points in the sweet 16, it'd be worth 60 points. If he's was on a 2-seed team that'd be 120 points and so forth. If you pick this year's VCU and manage to get them to the Final Four? Jackpot. But what's nice is, a 18 point game from a 3-seed in the Elite 8 is worth 216 points (18 x 3 x 4) which will make up a lot of ground from the guy who scored 288 points for his 16-seed who had a guy scoring 18 points in their one-and-done game. Make sense?

There is no draft, you just pick a roster of 10 players that you want. Make any changes you want up through the deadline, any edits after that will not be counted.

Have at it.

[britrock88]

Marking [s]my territory[/s] this thread.

[murrayyyyy]

Goal is to avoid next to last place...

Doug McDermott Creighton
Jabari Parker Duke
Marcus Smart OK St.
Garry Harris Mich St
Julius Randle Kentucky
Russ Smith Louisville
Melvin Ejim Iowa St
Cameron Bairstow New Mexico
LaQuinton Ross Ohio St
Jordan Adams UCLA

[Young Drachma]

bump

[Butter]

I will definitely be in, but want to give it a couple of days for injury updates and such.

[Butter]

TJ Warren, NC State
Bryce Cotton, Providence
Jeremy Ingram, NC Central
Russ Smith, Louisville
Marcus Smart, Oklahoma State
Julius Randle, Kentucky
Taylor Braun, North Dakota State
Langston Galloway, St. Joseph's
Nick Stauskas, Michigan
Tyler Haws, BYU

[Ramzavail]

Doug McDermott, Creighton
Jacob Parker, SFA
Shabazz Napier UCONN
Sean Kilpatrick CINC
Rod Hood Duke
Jabari Parker Duke
Chasson Randle STAN
Melvin Ejim Iowa State
Russ Smith LVILLE
Joseph Young OREG

[wade moore]

Doug McDermott, Creighton
Davon Usher, Delaware
Joseph Young, Oregon
Treveon Graham, VCU
Joe Harris, UVA
Nik Stauskas, Michigan
Andrew Wiggins, Kansas
Taylor Braun, NDSU
Jarvis Threatt, Delaware
Jordan McRae, Tennessee

[Ragone]

Russ Smith Louisville
Montrezl Harrell Louisville
Luke Hancock Louisville
Bryce Cotton Providence
Doug McDermott Creighton
Gary Harris Michigan State
Marcus Smart Oklahoma State
Taylor Braun NDSU
Andrew Wiggins Kansas
Jordan Adams UCLA

[Lathum]

Marcus Smart- OK St
Russ Smith- Louisville
Doug McDermott- Creighton
Bryce Cotton- Providence
Adrian Payne- MSU
CJ Fair- Syracuse
Jordan Adams-UCLA
Taylor Braun- NDSU
Jahii Carson- ASU
Nick Johnson- Arizona

[muns]

Doug McDermott- Creighton
Russ Smith- Louisville
Melvin Ejim- Iowa State
Wesley Saunders- Harvard
Marcus Smart- Oklahoma State
Gary Harris- Michigan State
Jabari Parker- Duke
Andrew Wiggins- Kansas
Cory Jefferson- Baylor
Buddy Hield- Oklahoma

[wade moore]

Oops - only had 8. Increased to 10.

[henry296]

Marcus Smart, OSU
Julius Randle, Kentucky
Russ Smith, Louisville
Gary Harris, Michigan St
TJ Warren, NC State
Jabari Parker, Duke
Doug McDermott, Creighton
Bryce Cotton, Providence
Nik Stauskas, Michigan
Andrew Wiggins, Kansas

[ntndeacon]

Melvin Ejim, Iowa St.
Casey Prather, Florida
Gary Harris, Michigan St.
LaQuinton Ross, Ohio St.
Frank Kamisky, Wisconsin
T.J.Warren, NC St.
Xavier Thames, San Diego St.
Terren Petteway, Nebraska
Nik Stauskas, Michigan
DeAndre Kane, Iowa St

[Young Drachma]

Kyle Anderson, UCLA
Marcus Paige, UNC
Elfrid Payton, ULL
Devin Oliver, Dayton
Jordan Parks, NC Central
Ralston Turner, NC State
Lamar Patterson, Pittsburgh
Langston Hall, Mercer
James Young, Kentucky
Keith Appling, Michigan State

[Butter]

Edited my list.

[Young Drachma]

Updated. Thanks.

[britrock88]

Doug McDermott, Creighton
Russ Smith, Louisville
Cameron Bairstow, New Mexico
Gary Harris, Michigan State
Joseph Young, Oregon
Jabari Parker, Duke
TJ Warren, North Carolina State
Jeremy Ingram, North Carolina Central
Lamar Patterson, Pittsburgh
Jordan McRae, Tennessee

Initial thoughts:
I have an inkling that this is too conservative a set. Then again, I don't have anybody from a 1- or 2-seed.

Edited out, for posterity's sake:
Jordan Adams, UCLA
Marcus Paige, North Carolina

Contingency:
If Tennessee loses in tonight's play-in, I'll probably substitute McRae with either Jahii Carson or Roy Devyn Marble. If Tennessee wins, I'll consider swapping out Gary Harris, instead.

[beckerinski]

Gary Harris, Michigan State
Adreian Payne, Michigan St
Russ Smith, Louisville
Marcus Smart, OK St
DeAndre Kane, Iowa St
Jabari Parker, Duke
Rodney Hood, Duke
Xavier Thames, SD St
Doug McDermott, Creighton
Julius Randle, Kentucky

[BillyMadison]

Giving it a go...

McDermott, Creighton
Russ Smith, Louisville
Galloway, St. Joe's
Gary Harris, Mich. St.
TJ Warren, NC State
Chaz Williams, UMass (homer pick)
CJ Fair, Syracuse
Cameron Bairstow, New Mexico
Nik Stauskas, Michigan
Jordan Adams, UCLA

[Ragone]

Damn was hoping texas southern could have gotten in.. Murray would have been an intriguing 1 and done play for a 16 seed.

[jbergey22]

Gary Harris(Mich St)
Adreian Payne(Mich St)
Russ Smith(Louis)
Montrezl Harrell(Louis)
James McAdoo(UNC)
Marcus Paige(UNC)
Jabari Paker(Duke)
Cory Jefferson(Baylor)
Branden Dawson(Mich St)
TJ Warren(NC St)

[Vince, Pt. II]

1. Doug McDermott, Creighton (3)
2. Russ Smith, Louisville (4)
3. Jabari Parker, Duke (3)
4. Jordan McRae, Tennessee (11)
5. Cameron Bairstow, New Mexico (7)
6. Gary Harris, Michigan State (4)
7. Joseph Young, Oregon (7)
8. Langston Galloway, St. Joseph's (10)
9. T.J. Warren, North Carolina State (12)
10. Sean Kilpatrick, Cincinnati (5)

I was incredibly torn between Kilpatrick, Harris and Marcus Smart. I wanted to pick only one of Kilpatrick and Harris...but I just can't see OK State getting past Arizona in the second round.

[B & B]

1. DeAndre Kane, Iowa St
2. Russ Smith, Louisville
3. Jabari Parker, Duke
4. Jordan McRae, Tennessee
5. Cameron Bairstow, New Mexico
6. Adriene Payne, Michigan State
7. Joseph Young, Oregon
8. Taylor Braun, NDSU
9. T.J. Warren, North Carolina State
10. Doug McBuckets, Creighton

[Chief Rum]

1. Doug McDermott, Creighton
2. Marcus Smart, Oklahoma State
3. Gary Harris, Michigan State
4. Kyle Anderson, UCLA
5. Jordan McRae, Tennessee
6. Joseph Young, Oregon
7. Montrezl Harrell, Louisville
8. Adrien Payne, Michigan State
9. DeAndre Kane, Iowa State
10. Xavier Thames, San Diego State

[kingfc22]

Doug McDermott, Creighton
TJ Warren, NC State
Russ Smith, Louisville
Jabari Parker, Duke
Cameron Bairstow, New Mexico
Bryce Cotton, Providence
Marcus Smart, Oklahoma St.
Jordan Adams, UCLA
DeAndre Kane, ISU
Andrew Wiggins, Kansas

[Young Drachma]

Nice sized group this year!

[Young Drachma]

Here's the official scoresheet

[Vince, Pt. II]

Too many swings and misses early. It's brutal that NC State and St. Joe's were so close to moving on.

[wade moore]

Delaware play was stupid, but I've still got some solid multiplier guys moving through this round.

[Young Drachma]

After the 2nd round of the tournament, here's what we have in terms of points and guys left over:

Player		Total	Players Left
butter_of_69	2143	4
britrock88	1549	6
kingfc22	1430	5
Vince Pt II	1407	5
B&B		1365	7
Lathum		1350	7
henry296	1344	6
Young Drachma	1219	7
wade moore	1156	7
Ragone		1126	8
BillyMadison	1125	6
Ramzavail	1113	7
jbergey22	1048	8
Chief Rum	1034	9
murrayyyyy	921	6
beckerinski	874	7
ntndeacon	867	7
muns		780	8

[Young Drachma]

Here are the players who accounted for the most points after the first round. Players in bold are still active for the next round. % is the percentage of people in the game who selected that player.

11	Providence	Bryce Cotton						396	27.8%	out
14	NC Central	Jeremy Ingram						392	11.1%	out
16	Weber State	Davion Berry						384	0.0%	out
12	NC State	T.J. Warren						336	50.0%	out
14	ULL		Elfrid Payton						336	5.6%	out
13	Delaware	Davon Usher						273	5.6%	out
12	SFA		Jacob Parker						264	5.6%	in
10	St. Joe's	Langston Galloway					250	16.7%	out
11	Tennessee	Jordan McRae						231	27.8%	in
10	Stanford	Chasson Randle						230	5.6%	in
9	Oklahoma State	Marcus Smart						207	50.0%	out
11	Nebraska	Terren Petteway						198	5.6%	out
12	NC State	Ralston Turner						192	5.6%	out
10	BYU		Tyler Haws						190	5.6%	out
10	Arizona State	Jahii Carson						190	5.6%	out
13	Delaware	Jarvis Threatt						182	5.6%	out
7	New Mexico	Cameron Bairstow					168	33.3%	out
7	UConn		Shabazz Napier						168	5.6%	in
4	Michigan State	Adreian Payne						164	27.8%	in
14	Mercer		Langston Hall						154	5.6%	in
8	Kentucky	Julius Randle						152	22.2%	in
12	Harvard		Wesley Saunders						144	5.6%	in
7	Oregon		Joseph Young						133	33.3%	in
12	NDSU		Taylor Braun						132	27.8%	in
14	WMU		David Brown						126	0.0%	out
14	NC Central	Jordan Parks						126	5.6%	out
11	Dayton		Devin Oliver						121	5.6%	in
6	UNC		Marcus Paige						114	5.6%	in
6	Baylor		Cory Jefferson						96	11.1%	in
6	UNC		James McAdoo						96	11.1%	in
5	VCU		Treveon Graham						95	5.6%	out
4	SDSU		Xavier Thames						92	16.7%	in
13	Manhattan	George Beamon						91	0.0%	out
5	Cincinnati	Sean Kilpatrick						90	11.1%	out
9	Pittsburgh	Lamar Patterson						90	11.1%	in
4	UCLA		Jordan Adams						84	27.8%	in
4	Louisville	Russ Smith						72	77.8%	in
6	Baylor		Brady Heslip						72	0.0%	in
6	UMass		Chaz Williams						72	5.6%	out
4	Louisville	Luke Hancock						64	5.6%	in
6	Ohio State	LaQuinton Ross						60	11.1%	out
8	Kentucky	James Young						56	5.6%	in
3	Iowa State	Melvin Ejim						51	22.2%	in
4	Louisville	Montrezl Harrell					48	16.7%	in
3	Creighton	Doug McDermott						45	77.8%	in
5	Oklahoma	Buddy Hield						45	5.6%	in
3	Duke		Jabari Parker						42	55.6%	out
3	Syracuse	CJ Fair							42	11.1%	in
3	Iowa State	DeAndre Kane						42	27.8%	in
4	Michigan State	Gary Harris						40	61.1%	in
4	Michigan State	Branden Dawson						40	5.6%	in
2	Kansas		Andrew Wiggins						38	27.8%	in
4	UCLA		Kyle Anderson						32	11.1%	in
1	Arizona		Nick Johnson						18	5.6%	in
3	Duke		Rod Hood						18	11.1%	out
1	Florida		Casey Prather						16	5.6%	in
2	Michigan	Nik Stauskas						18	27.8%	in
2	Wisconsin	Frank Kamisky						16	5.6%	in
4	Michigan State	Keith Appling						16	5.6%	in
1	Virginia	Joe Harris						11	5.6%	in

[Butter]

Correction: Devin Oliver of Dayton not in bold, but should be.

My scoring following similarly to last year, but a little worse. I think I was ahead until late last year also, probably will be giving up the lead earlier than I hoped this year thanks to the tight losses by Providence, St. Joe's, and NC State. I also thought for sure Oklahoma State would beat Gonzaga. Alas.

[Young Drachma]

Thanks to beckerinski (who is a real life friend of mine who I roped into the game..) we have a spreadsheet that actually shows who has who, so you can see if there are repeaters as we get further down into the tournament.

Here's the link (since we can't embed)

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

Correction: Devin Oliver of Dayton not in bold, but should be.

My scoring following similarly to last year, but a little worse. I think I was ahead until late last year also, probably will be giving up the lead earlier than I hoped this year thanks to the tight losses by Providence, St. Joe's, and NC State. I also thought for sure Oklahoma State would beat Gonzaga. Alas.

Fixed. Thanks homes.

[kingfc22]

I may be near the top, but all my lower seed players got bounced so I expect a free fall the next two days.

[Ragone]

McDermott had 30.. so shouldn't he account for 90 points? not 45..

[Young Drachma]

Mistake, I've fixed it. Good catch. I sometimes like to do in-game scoring and that was a mistake when I don't go back to fix.

[henry296]

Should've picked Napier. I had UConn in the sweet sixteen.

[Young Drachma]

Originally Posted by henry296

Should've picked Napier. I had UConn in the sweet sixteen.

Yeah I'm kicking myself for taking him off my updated list. No real hurt to that, but I did think they'd lose earlier than they did.

[Young Drachma]

Standings through the completed games of today so far: (3:47PM EDT)

butter_of_69	2415	3
britrock88	2376	4
Ramzavail	2262	6
B&B		2168	5
Vince Pt II	2090	4
Chief Rum	2045	8
Ragone		1835	6
Lathum		1831	5
wade moore	1807	4
jbergey22	1664	8
henry296	1653	5
muns		1601	6
kingfc22	1579	4
Young Drachma	1533	6
BillyMadison	1502	5
beckerinski	1487	7
ntndeacon	1359	7
murrayyyyy	1198	6

[Young Drachma]

Scores after two rounds of NCAAs. Feel free to check my work:

britrock88	2774	3
B&B		2710	4
Chief Rum	2707	7
butter_of_69	2623	3
Vince Pt II	2488	3
Ramzavail	2472	4
Young Drachma	2449	4
wade moore	2237	3
jbergey22	2228	6
Lathum		2107	4
Ragone		2077	5
kingfc22	1965	3
henry296	1951	4
beckerinski	1929	6
muns		1859	4
BillyMadison	1744	4
murrayyyyy	1648	5
ntndeacon	1503	7

[Young Drachma]

Looks like Chief's "Chalk or die" lineup is working on really well for him.

[murrayyyyy]

not going to make a difference for me overall but my score is wrong. Ejim.

[Young Drachma]

Fixed post-Ejim:

britrock88	2774	3
B&B		2710	4
Chief Rum	2707	7
butter_of_69	2623	3
Ramzavail	2586	4
Vince Pt II	2488	3
Young Drachma	2449	4
wade moore	2237	3
jbergey22	2228	6
Lathum		2107	4
Ragone		2077	5
muns		1973	4
kingfc22	1965	3
henry296	1951	4
beckerinski	1929	6
murrayyyyy	1762	5
BillyMadison	1744	4
ntndeacon	1617	7

[britrock88]

Originally Posted by Young Drachma

Looks like Chief's "Chalk or die" lineup is working on really well for him.

And the rare forays he makes outside of the chalk--McRae, Young--have worked or are continuing to work.

[Young Drachma]

Originally Posted by britrock88

And the rare forays he makes outside of the chalk--McRae, Young--have worked or are continuing to work.

yeah, really really smart picking.

[jbergey22]

Chief in cruise control.

[Vince, Pt. II]

Strategically speaking, I feel like anyone on a 1 or a 2 seed is a wasted pick in a game like this. Let's assume that your potential 2 seed team makes the championship game. He gets the exact same multiplier as a 12 seed does in his one game, or a 3 seed in two games. The sweet spot for seed multiplier plus round advancement seems to be in the 4-7 range.

Edit: I also feel like a guy like McDermott you simply can't leave off your team, even though he wasn't worth all that much this go around. You're just completely screwed if he goes off and you don't have him.

[Ramzavail]

agreed, you had to pick McD.

[jbergey22]

When trying to win a large field competition, contrarian often times gives you the best odds of winning.