Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16th

[iLLmatic]

Bump...now that it's official.

[Mo]

Merged both threads, enjoy

[Sausage]

In my opinion I hope I am dead wrong is that Ortiz is cashing out. I would not be surprised after the beating he will sustain from Mayweather that he just retires, acts in small roles in movies, and just live quietly back in Kansas counting his money.

[Money99]

Quote: Originally Posted by Sausage

In my opinion I hope I am dead wrong is that Ortiz is cashing out. I would not be surprised after the beating he will sustain from Mayweather that he just retires, acts in small roles in movies, and just live quietly back in Kansas counting his money.

I wouldn't be surprised by that at all either.
We could be seeing another Pac-Clottey fight in the works.
I think Ortiz will give it his all in the first few rounds. The minute he sees he can't catch Mayweather, he'll preserve himself to last 12 rounds and call it a career.
I don't see him moving up to 154 and there's nowhere for him to go at 147. This could be it for him.

Either way, I'm still ticked we haven't seen Pacquio-Mayweather. They should have fought instead of Mayweather-Mosley.

That's when both were sharp and in their primes.

Pacquio didn't look as sharp vs Mosley, and Mayweather's 34 and only fought 3 times since 2007.
If they ever do fight, it'll probably be when one, or both, have been past their primes and the result won't be what it should have been.

[tyreeii]

Quote: Originally Posted by Money99

I wouldn't be surprised by that at all either. We could be seeing another Pac-Clottey fight in the works. I think Ortiz will give it his all in the first few rounds. The minute he sees he can't catch Mayweather, he'll preserve himself to last 12 rounds and call it a career. I don't see him moving up to 154 and there's nowhere for him to go at 147. This could be it for him. Either way, I'm still ticked we haven't seen Pacquio-Mayweather. They should have fought instead of Mayweather-Mosley. That's when both were sharp and in their primes. Pacquio didn't look as sharp vs Mosley, and Mayweather's 34 and only fought 3 times since 2007. If they ever do fight, it'll probably be when one, or both, have been past their primes and the result won't be what it should have been.

I do not thing we will see Pac - Clottey because Mayweather doe snot throw as many punches. what I will say is that this will be a good fight for Floyd and Victor has some pop in his punches. I see this fight looking like a mixture of the Gatti/Corrales fights in that Ortiz is a brave heavy puncher with decent speed but a southpaw and I think he could hurt Floyd if he lands a good shot.

I do not think this is it for Floyd, he has to pay taxes on all of those bets he won (anything over 3K I think???). What people have to realize and I do not know if anyone has said this, what shot is Victor WIDE open for????

The straight right and that just happens to be Floyd's best punch. Floyd will not miss the countering opportunities that Berto missed. If Ortiz keeps throwing shots I think he will get stopped around the 10th round. But it should be a good fight.

I also think that they will both be out of their [rime when/if Pac and May fight each other. I also agree that Pac is slowing down, his punch output is dropping and he was reaching A LOT in the Mosley. I don't know if the reaching was because Pac knew that Shane was no threat but he cannot do that against Floyd, that would be a recipe for disaster.

[mr_president]

ortiz is a southpaw. he will get to ffloyd more than expected.

[bigeastbumrush]

I just watched the Ortiz/Berto fight.

PBF/Ortiz will be much like PBF/Gatti. Ortiz is too open for the counterpunch. He leads with his head down (in front/forward).

I say PBF by TKO (referee stoppage) in the 9th.

I expect PBF to perform surgery and pick Ortiz apart. This is probably going to be more one-sided than I initially thought.

[tyreeii]

Quote: Originally Posted by bigeastbumrush

I just watched the Ortiz/Berto fight. PBF/Ortiz will be much like PBF/Gatti. Ortiz is too open for the counterpunch. He leads with his head down (in front/forward). I say PBF by TKO (referee stoppage) in the 9th. I expect PBF to perform surgery and pick Ortiz apart. This is probably going to be more one-sided than I initially thought.

I agree with you the only MAJOR difference is that Floyd does not throw as many punches AND Ortiz is faster than Gatti was. I thought Ortiz was taller BUT I was wrong so his size will not come into play. I think his southpaw stance will cause some problems, we shall see.