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  • studbucket
    MVP
    • Aug 2007
    • 4615

    #1

    Dynasty HoF or Best of?

    Hey everyone,

    If you're here, it's probably because you enjoy creating or reading dynasties (or both). I know I've discovered several dynasties years after they have started and enjoyed reading through them and catching up. However, I would bet that I've missed some great ones.

    What do you all think about creating a community process for nominating and selecting dynasties of an OS Dynasty Hall of Fame?

    I'd be happy to have us define the criteria for nomination, the process for voting, and the cadence for adding new HoF members (we don't want to dilute it too much, this is for the best of the best, the things that could make a non-dynasty user fall in love with dynasties).

    Maybe we could even "interview" HoF members to get tips on successful dynasties, formatting, creative ideas, etc.

    What are your thoughts and feedback?
    Last edited by studbucket; 03-24-2020, 01:11 PM.
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  • kibaxx7
    キバレンジャー
    • Oct 2018
    • 2003

    #2
    Re: Dynasty HoF or Best of?

    Oh most definitely! I first discovered NLSC about... 15 years ago! And they made a Dynasty HOF and then an Association HOF as 2K took the reigns. I'm very happy to have had an association that received the honor.

    If I have to nominate one today, it has to be superjames1992' James Frizzell career.
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    • studbucket
      MVP
      • Aug 2007
      • 4615

      #3
      Re: Dynasty HoF or Best of?

      Originally posted by spiderxx7
      Oh most definitely! I first discovered NLSC about... 15 years ago! And they made a Dynasty HOF and then an Association HOF as 2K took the reigns. I'm very happy to have had an association that received the honor.

      If I have to nominate one today, it has to be superjames1992' James Frizzell career.

      If we were to think about the types of dynasties that would be HoF worthy, what criteria would you use? Here are some that come to mind for me:
      • Longevity - you're not a flash in the pan, but tell a long-running or coherent story.
      • Presentation - you display the story in a compelling and engaging way
      • Creativity - whether it's storytelling or the underlying idea, is it unique and interesting?
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      • kibaxx7
        キバレンジャー
        • Oct 2018
        • 2003

        #4
        Re: Dynasty HoF or Best of?

        Longevity - most definitely. Not a lot of people get to, let's say 3+ years. I've only been able to do it once, either because I got bored down the road or started to lose (or even win!) a lot. So you gotta find the way to stay engaged.

        Presentation - Personally, I've always put this first. I don't want to just write. I've always wanted to add photos (videos if I can), to take it to another level. You gotta have free time available, obviously.

        Creativity - Storytelling it is, here. People make sorts of "the career of" and write a story, I think you gotta give extra points to that. It has to be unique too, either by longevity and/or presentation.
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        • trekfan
          Designated Red Shirt
          • Sep 2009
          • 5817

          #5
          Re: Dynasty HoF or Best of?

          I very much like this idea -- you have my support. I'll have deeper thoughts later (coming up with selection criteria and judging these things will be a real challenge) but I think this would be a worthy addition to the forums. There are some really good threads over the years that deserve to have a light shone on them and recognized.
          Any comments are welcome.
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          • studbucket
            MVP
            • Aug 2007
            • 4615

            #6
            Re: Dynasty HoF or Best of?

            Originally posted by trekfan
            I very much like this idea -- you have my support. I'll have deeper thoughts later (coming up with selection criteria and judging these things will be a real challenge) but I think this would be a worthy addition to the forums. There are some really good threads over the years that deserve to have a light shone on them and recognized.
            Absolutely, I'd love to bubble up old threads that have gotten buried.

            My thoughts, in addition to coming up with the criteria, would be to have a nomination period and process (which may involve posts in each subforum, maybe we need to work with the mods) and a voting process.

            If people don't abuse the system:

            Nominations - simple surveymonkey survey posted here. Respond with your OS username and a link to the thread you nominate + a description of why you nominated it. Maybe we allow 3 nominations?

            Selections - perhaps threads that pass a certain threshold of nominations (like 5) make it to the final phase, where we put all up for a vote and the top 2 or 3 make it in.

            Alternatively, we could have 1 dynasty from football, 1 from basketball, and 2 from baseball, hockey, other, and coaching make it in each year, or something like that. Or maybe we do it every 6 months.

            If people abuse the system and stuff the ballot box, we could find another, more stringent, way to do this all on OS.
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            • dfsJunkie
              Pro
              • Apr 2015
              • 852

              #7
              Re: Dynasty HoF or Best of?

              I think this is a good idea, as there are a lot of great stories out there already. Anything to help improve the engagement of the site.

              I think it would be important to limit how many are inducted though. It might be worthwhile to have a couple different categories too.

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              • studbucket
                MVP
                • Aug 2007
                • 4615

                #8
                Re: Dynasty HoF or Best of?

                Originally posted by dfsJunkie
                I think this is a good idea, as there are a lot of great stories out there already. Anything to help improve the engagement of the site.

                I think it would be important to limit how many are inducted though. It might be worthwhile to have a couple different categories too.

                I think limiting inductions is exactly what we should do. How would you categorize? 3 ideas come to mind for me:


                1) No category, just general excellence
                2) Per sport
                3) For excellence in an attribute (presentation, creativity, longevity)
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                • studbucket
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 4615

                  #9
                  Re: Dynasty HoF or Best of?

                  I messaged one of the mods (jeremym) who would be happy to sticky whatever we create once we have more clarity.

                  In addition to that, I really only evangelized this idea in the basketball sub-forum and many folks don't check dynasty HQ. Should we put threads in the other subforums asking for input and ideas, and then I can take those and put together proposals?


                  And if so, do any of you spend time in some of the other subforums and have rapport or understanding with the folks there? (I've primarily done bball dynasties, though I have also read several football ones)
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                  • kibaxx7
                    キバレンジャー
                    • Oct 2018
                    • 2003

                    #10
                    Re: Dynasty HoF or Best of?

                    Originally posted by studbucket
                    I really only evangelized this idea in the basketball sub-forum and many folks don't check dynasty HQ. Should we put threads in the other subforums asking for input and ideas, and then I can take those and put together proposals?

                    Oh for sure! I've always been a fan of basketball, also soccer (it's huge in South America as you all know). Never followed football or baseball so I don't check those, but there must definitely be a discussion in all possible subforums.
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                    • dfsJunkie
                      Pro
                      • Apr 2015
                      • 852

                      #11
                      Re: Dynasty HoF or Best of?

                      I think it would be a good idea to have a sticky at the top of each of the individual forums that are HoF, etc...

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                      • RolePlayer
                        MVP
                        • Nov 2015
                        • 1729

                        #12
                        Re: Dynasty HoF or Best of?

                        It would be nice to hear from some of the football, baseball, and other dynasty guys. Even though us hoop dynasty guys might be the coolest would love to hear their thoughts.

                        I totally agree, this site has had some timeless dynasties that deserve to be honored. The biggest that comes to mind is the Coach Frizzell dynasty which has been going on 12 years. Many dynasties after they go on for awhile the creator starts to slack on content and details but Superjames has continued to put effort, creativity, and details into his dynasty for twelve years.

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                        • studbucket
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 4615

                          #13
                          Re: Dynasty HoF or Best of?

                          Originally posted by spiderxx7
                          Oh for sure! I've always been a fan of basketball, also soccer (it's huge in South America as you all know). Never followed football or baseball so I don't check those, but there must definitely be a discussion in all possible subforums.
                          Originally posted by dfsJunkie
                          I think it would be a good idea to have a sticky at the top of each of the individual forums that are HoF, etc...
                          Originally posted by RolePlayer
                          It would be nice to hear from some of the football, baseball, and other dynasty guys. Even though us hoop dynasty guys might be the coolest would love to hear their thoughts.

                          I totally agree, this site has had some timeless dynasties that deserve to be honored. The biggest that comes to mind is the Coach Frizzell dynasty which has been going on 12 years. Many dynasties after they go on for awhile the creator starts to slack on content and details but Superjames has continued to put effort, creativity, and details into his dynasty for twelve years.
                          Great feedback and ideas. I'll make a post in the other subforums soon (unless one of you wants to do one of the subforums) pointing them here to give feedback (or they can give it there).

                          I totally agree that we should have stickies in each subforum, I think it would be really valuable for newcomers or for people looking for inspiration.
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                          • studbucket
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 4615

                            #14
                            Re: Dynasty HoF or Best of?

                            After thinking on this more and posting in a few more sub-forums, it feels like people generally think this is a good idea. I'd like to propose a nomination and selection process.

                            Cadence: 12 months

                            Hall of Fame: Permanent sticky in each dynasty subforum

                            Nomination process
                            • Post a stickied thread at the top of each dynasty sub-forum, calling for nominations
                            • Survey created via SurveyMonkey, that link is included in stickied post. Survey asks for the following:
                              • Your OS username
                              • Three nominations, which include
                                • Link to dynasty
                                • Name of the dynasty
                                • Author of the dynasty
                                • Reason for the nomination

                              • Any additional feedback or comments folks have

                            • Leave nominations open for 2 weeks
                            • Remove sticky from nomination threads
                            • Spend 1 week tabulating nominations and put together a list of the top 10 most nominated dynasties. (if there are ties, include more than 10 options. For instance if 8 dynasties receive 5+ nominations but 4 receive 3 nominations, we'd include all 4 of them for 12 total)
                            • Archive all nominees for recognition and future reference. It's a big deal to get nominated

                            Selection process
                            • Create new stickied threads in each subforum, list out each nominee with a brief blurb on what it is why it was nominated.
                            • Include link to SurveyMonkey survey which has a list of the nominees (which are shown in a different/random order to all survey respondents to limit biases based on order).
                            • Respondents pick 3 from that list, along with optional text field to detail their thoughts on what they chose (and include their OS username).
                            • Voting period lasts 2 weeks, at the end of it we induct the top 3 vote-getters into the Hall of Fame
                            • They get added to stickied thread, and maybe we can even add a post where we interview them and get details on what they did.


                            Possible concern: people stuffing the ballot box. Unsure how to mitigate.
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                            • RolePlayer
                              MVP
                              • Nov 2015
                              • 1729

                              #15
                              Re: Dynasty HoF or Best of?

                              Brilliant idea

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