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  • ironman136
    Banned
    • Nov 2008
    • 97

    #1

    Man Coverage in this game NEEDS to be fixed

    The man coverage is flat out bad. They mirror your reciever and literally run the route better than the reciever, its so annoying. Just go to practice mode and try to throw any timing route to a WR on man coverage, it simply does not work. Its so stupid. I'm going to make a video about this tomorrow to back up this issue. This problem definately needs to be addressed ASAP because it really takes away from an overall good game.

    Now I will say that this game is MUCH better than past iterations. Its just the continuous problems from year to year that they STILL haven't fixed that irritate the poop out of me. Just imagine if APFs passing game was the passing game of NCAA Football 11. The game would be great. Its just that some of the basic fundamentals of football are still not replicated in this game, something that some folks from England got right in their FIRST EVER game.

    For example, the fundamentals of man coverage, correct any mistakes if you guys see any: The defender squares up to the reciever before the snap. The defender backpedals with the WR as the play begins. The defender is looking at the WR at all times at the beginning of the play. The defender watches ( supposed to) the hips of the WR to judge the cuts or fake cuts of the WR. If he bends his hips, he's cutting, if he doesn't or does just a bit, he's faking. The defender breaks his backpedal when the WR makes his cut. At this time, the defender has to judge whether or not he has the ability to jump the route. If he feels confident, he'll go for it. Otherwise, he'll trail. If the reciever runs a deeper route, the defender takes the inside hip and runs alongside the reciever.

    This is how man coverage is played in Backbreaker. The only flaw is that the route running isn't fast enough so most routes get jumped. But the fundamentals are near perfect.

    Here is how they play man coverage in NCAA Football 11: The defender squares up to the reciever. At the snap, he backpedals a couple of steps. When the reciever catches up to him, he breaks his backpedal to trail ( still good at this point). When the WR makes his cut ( or should I say when the defender makes his cut) the defender ( or should I say the WR) makes the cut perfectly with him, putting the defender in front of the WR in prime position to be the new WR. Not to mention, defenders for some reason can cut faster than WRs, I have no clue why as that makes absolutely no sense. Its like the defenders have a 6th sense of what route the WR is running, making timing routes a recipe for disaster. Like I said, this needs to be addressed ASAP because it really ruins what is a great game to me.<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->
    Last edited by ironman136; 07-14-2010, 12:24 AM.
  • ElroyJetson
    MVP
    • Apr 2007
    • 1860

    #2
    Re: Man Coverage in this game NEEDS to be fixed

    Impression's thread isn't just stickied for looks
    http://www.operationsports.com/forum...ions-only.html
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    • DLaren
      MVP
      • Sep 2006
      • 1476

      #3
      Re: Man Coverage in this game NEEDS to be fixed

      I am under the impression that the appropriate slider adjustements ('reaction time'?) help to rectify this issue. Have you tried that yet?

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      • jmik58
        Staff Writer
        • Jan 2008
        • 2401

        #4
        Re: Man Coverage in this game NEEDS to be fixed

        Crossing routes and slants are usually more successful against man coverage, but I don't know if you're referring to any specific routes or all of them. I do think the DB's act like they "know" the routes and run them before the ball is even out of the QB's hands sometimes.

        Maybe try what someone mentioned by adjusting the reaction slider. Otherwise, you just have to adjust by reading the defense and knowing what routes to throw to if you recognize man coverage, or hot route a receiver to a suitable route.

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        • wisgator
          Rookie
          • Jul 2008
          • 77

          #5
          Re: Man Coverage in this game NEEDS to be fixed

          I noticed this in the first game I played. I was way too cautious because of what I was seeing. I got sacked 12 times on Heisman. That's never happened to me, ever. lol

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          • TigerRag
            Rookie
            • Jun 2010
            • 238

            #6
            Re: Man Coverage in this game NEEDS to be fixed

            I totally agree, the mirroring is really bad. Sure, slants(when the DB's don't jam the heck out of you) work. Drags work. But good luck getting anything else down the field when in man.
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            • Meast21Forever
              Pro
              • Feb 2009
              • 769

              #7
              Re: Man Coverage in this game NEEDS to be fixed

              Originally posted by shorty199127
              Impression's thread isn't just stickied for looks
              http://www.operationsports.com/forum...ions-only.html
              This doesn't seem like an impression to me. Seems like an issue meant for discussion.

              About the thread, I disagree. Now, I'm only on All-American, but I've been able to throw on man coverage fairly easily. Crossing routes work well on lead passes. I can hit the deep streak as well. The post has been successful as well. Now that I think about it, man coverage is easier than zone. However, I do agree that the way the computer reacts isn't... life-like lol. I think it's improved over last year, but it's still a bit problematic.
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              • jonesha2000
                Pro
                • Jul 2003
                • 974

                #8
                Re: Man Coverage in this game NEEDS to be fixed

                Originally posted by Meast21Forever
                This doesn't seem like an impression to me. Seems like an issue meant for discussion.

                About the thread, I disagree. Now, I'm only on All-American, but I've been able to throw on man coverage fairly easily. Crossing routes work well on lead passes. I can hit the deep streak as well. The post has been successful as well. Now that I think about it, man coverage is easier than zone. However, I do agree that the way the computer reacts isn't... life-like lol. I think it's improved over last year, but it's still a bit problematic.

                Let me know how successful you are with completing a stop route. I'm about to go in practice mode right now and throw 10 passes on man to man coverage and come back and tell you how many I complete.

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                • jonesha2000
                  Pro
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 974

                  #9
                  Re: Man Coverage in this game NEEDS to be fixed

                  Originally posted by jonesha2000
                  Let me know how successful you are with completing a stop route. I'm about to go in practice mode right now and throw 10 passes on man to man coverage and come back and tell you how many I complete.
                  1-10....4 picked off...1 hit my receivers hand and was broken up...the rest didn't even make it to the receiver. And we all know that the stop route is the hardest route to defend in real football if you are playing man and giving the normal cushion. So as the OP stated, this is an issue. The only time I completed the pass is when the QB threw it over the DB head after the DB made his break before my WR.

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                  • Stunna2006
                    Rookie
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 209

                    #10
                    Re: Man Coverage in this game NEEDS to be fixed

                    but playing online its always been way too easy... you gotta remember that if this route is open 3/10 times and other routes are open 2/10 times then a good user would be hitting on plays with 3 WRs 7/10 times.. and most plays have 4 or 5 options

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                    • tate09
                      Rookie
                      • Dec 2004
                      • 184

                      #11
                      Re: Man Coverage in this game NEEDS to be fixed

                      dropping the CPU pass coverage slider down to 35 or 40 on AA, or 25/30 on heisman works wonders.

                      i went into practice mode with michigan on offense and nebraska on defense. nebraska has very good corners, 91 OVR and 88 OVR, on with the pass coverage sliders adjusted and was actually able to complete a realistic % of hitches, curls and outs. my WR's were able to get more separation on #15 (88 OVR, 98 MCV, 94 AWR) than #21 (91 OVR, 96 MCV, 88 AWR).....slants against man are still broken...the DB runs the route for you nearly every time. my slot receivers were able to get a ton of separation on their OLB's and safeties as well on ins and outs.

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                      • saunders45
                        Rookie
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 61

                        #12
                        Re: Man Coverage in this game NEEDS to be fixed

                        Originally posted by Stunna2006
                        but playing online its always been way too easy...
                        It's not this year. I played my first game against my cousin (like every year). He was Iowa, I was Nebraska, and we had 6 picks between us. It's not necessarily the amount of picks that really bother me, it's that they were all circus catches in single coverage.

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                        • Cj7298419
                          Pro
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 983

                          #13
                          Re: Man Coverage in this game NEEDS to be fixed

                          I agree with the OP. Man coverage on this game is unreal. I've seen several times where the corners will cut before my receiver does.

                          Because of this, I've been getting sacked alot more this year than any of the previous years. I know sliders can help this, but I'm mainly an online player so I have to deal with it.
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                          • #85_on_a_mission
                            Pro
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 510

                            #14
                            Re: Man Coverage in this game NEEDS to be fixed

                            Man coverage is bs..no argument there. However...look at the ratings of some of the corners in the game. They are overrated. Just about every corners man coverage is 93+. That is insane for college corners...and would be for nfl corners as well. Give it a peek.
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                            • jf28
                              Rookie
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 118

                              #15
                              Re: Man Coverage in this game NEEDS to be fixed

                              This is the thing they definitely need to fix next year, the CPU knowing things. Routes, plays (they only pick any kind of safe FG coverage when you call a fake, never when you're actually kicking a FG), they definitely know an impossible amount sometimes.

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