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  • Gnemi
    Rookie
    • Jan 2012
    • 1519

    #1

    Unwinnable Career Mode Fixtures

    Volumes have been written about the prominence in FIFA 13 of "God Mode" in the 80th minute of close matches. Speaking from experience, I recognize this happening in better than 75% of my matches where I lead by less than 3 goals.

    Nonetheless, I've found ways of mitigating this annoying aspect of the game to where it hasn't succeeded in completely ruining this year's offering. It did, however, come close.

    I have started this thread because I've noticed a very similar event in my Career Mode. I'm in my 5th season with Cardiff City. They are now a five star world power. My roster is not as deep as Manchester City or Real Madrid, but my starting 11 are very solid. The five star rating flatters me a bit, but I digress. I'm in the middle of a six match streak of 4 wins and 2 draws, taking 14 of 18 points in the process and shooting up to the 3rd place in the table.

    Last night, following my recent run of exceptional form, I was at home against QPR. Again, I'm in 3rd place and gunning for a title. QPR is in the drop zone, trying to stay in the EPL.

    For giggles, I played this match six times, each with a different lineup, mentality, tactics, and formation.

    Nothing mattered.

    Simply put: QPR were unbeatable. They made exceptional tackles, sprinted for 90 minutes, and were impossible to break down. The ref was calling phantom fouls against me and on several occasions, I was mugged in QPR's penalty box but nothing came of it. I was even given a straight red in one match for a slightly mistimed tackle.

    They couldn't score goals, mind you, but I could not win the match. 1-1 was the best I managed in six attempts. On top of everything else, I was noticing that an inordinate number of random deflections would roll directly to one of their players.

    Eventually, I gave up and took the single point, but it bothered me. I get that every team will have a fixture in their schedule where players are outmatched by an inferior opponent, but this didn't feel right. I'm in 3rd place, not 1st. To win the league, I'll have to nearly go undefeated, which is extremely unrealistic. Dropping points happens, but it doesn't seem to happen to my AI rivals. For instance, Manchester United are top of the table. In 13 matches, they have 36 points. That means they've dropped 3 points all season and are on pace to score 108 points this year. WTF.

    Has anybody else noticed this sort of phenomenon?
  • gerg1234
    BOOM!
    • Jul 2008
    • 2911

    #2
    Re: Unwinnable Career Mode Fixtures

    Valenciennes;

    I've beat them once in all of my time in Ligue 1. Extremely frustrating.
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    • dubcity
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      • May 2012
      • 17872

      #3
      Re: Unwinnable Career Mode Fixtures

      Oh, I know for a fact that they tinker with team abilities to make matches more competitive. Hell, one year they even listed it at as a feature. Usually you see it in career mode, or other non-exhibition modes. They used to only do it with weaker teams playing at their home venue, but I wouldn't be surprised if that has changed. It's just their way of ensuring a decent amount of upsets. Call it scripting, or whatever, but it's definitely there.

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      • OpTiOnMaStA
        Rookie
        • May 2005
        • 165

        #4
        Re: Unwinnable Career Mode Fixtures

        I've had issues with Norwich City recently in my career mode. I essentially spend most of my time in their third but they find ways to get long lob balls down the field on counterattacks and sneak in some crosses on me leading to goals.

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        • SpHSpH
          Pro
          • Sep 2008
          • 795

          #5
          Re: Unwinnable Career Mode Fixtures

          There are the six EPL teams that I have dubbed the "Unbeatables" ...

          ManUnited / ManCity
          Chelsea / Liverpool
          Arsenal / Tottenham

          Not surprisingly - they are also the "Sky Six" (or whatever). It seems that, in every variation of FIFA, these teams always "get every call / have all the luck / cheat" ... whatever. Two other teams that are not in the caliber of this group, but still always give me fits are ...

          Aston Villa / QPR

          "Stupid QPR!" I find myself grumbling twice (or three times ... they dropped me from the FA Cup this year also) a season.
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          • coach422001
            MVP
            • Aug 2008
            • 1492

            #6
            Re: Unwinnable Career Mode Fixtures

            Does this only happen at certain difficult levels? I'm playing "Pro" and haven't seen Godmode yet. Beat Liverpool with Arsenal and Norwich City with Palace in the Capital One Cup. It is a shame that it is unbeatable; for years I wished sports games would give a losing team the sense of urgency or the winning team a gameplay change to hold the lead. Watching the EPL, in one goal games, you do often see the field tilt to the advantage of the team that is down as the winning side tries to hold the points. Replicating that in the game would be more realistic. However, as mentioned, you may occassionally drop points in such a game (QPR DID beat Chelsea this year!), but it shouldn't happen all the time.

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            • OpTiOnMaStA
              Rookie
              • May 2005
              • 165

              #7
              Re: Unwinnable Career Mode Fixtures

              Unbeatable is probably the wrong word. I just tend to notice in certain games against certain opponents that they get all the breaks and strange things will happen - I miss passes sort of inexplicably and usually they score on a wild play where the CPU puts me way out of position.

              Essentially, you just have to be dead nuts on or else you're not going to win. I've won some of these games with late game heroics, too, but it's been rough sledding quite often in them.

              It's a little frustrating, though, when you can see it coming from a mile away.

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              • Nieb498
                Rookie
                • Aug 2012
                • 24

                #8
                Re: Unwinnable Career Mode Fixtures

                It definatly happens. In my BvB career I've ran into a four game in on week stretch, cmon really?, that have seen me take one point, a loss away to Eintracht Frankfurt and a draw home to Schalke, in Bundesliga, barely beat a Bunesliga 2 side fight to stay up in the DFB cup, and a Champions League draw at Signal Iduna to Ajax. Before this run I was sitting second behind Bayern by a point and now am third and five out.
                Don't get me wrong, I don't mind a drop in form occasionally but it gets ridiculos. When your players can't handle even the simplest of passes, every touch they take is a horrid one, and the CPU devolpes the God like ability to tackle it really takes the fun out of playing. It's a real pain when a defender rated in the low 60's plays a perfect tackle on Mario Gotze. Or a perfectly placed pass into the box is surrounded immediately by three defenders who were until that very moment no where near the box. I feel cheated not outplayed.

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                • FalseNine
                  Just started!
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 9

                  #9
                  Re: Unwinnable Career Mode Fixtures

                  The famous emotion engine. Appalling.

                  I've done the same thing, i.e. played a particular career mode fixture multiple times to understand WTF was going on. In short, the game in its glory decides that you should experience a very tough game that week, but whatever formula they're using must be prepared for low difficulty levels or something, because at higher difficulty levels the game becomes downright comical.

                  As OpTiOnMaStA says the games are winnable in theory with a very small margin for errors. I even won some 2-1 & 3-2 (at world class). Here are some of the things I've noticed.

                  During the match look at the other team's player ratings. If they have several pulling 7+, then you may be in it for a bad one even if you don't notice it yet (I was up 2-0 once before I lost the game and later found out this was a tough match).

                  Usually the game makes you more vulnerable after scoring. In these fixtures that goes to overdrive. After kickoff get the ball back and pass it between your CBs for 5 minutes. The 45th minute crap goes to overdrive as well, so don't give away corners.

                  The 80th minute crap goes to overdrive as well. I normally can score when they go berserk, but not in these fixtures. There's no shame in this. Go 4-5-1. Switch to your most defensive tactics. Kick everything to their corner flags.

                  As to how to actually score, I find that my crosses seem to be wasted more often, but through balls and dribbling works more or less as usual.

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                  • i am the messenger
                    Rookie
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 163

                    #10
                    Re: Unwinnable Career Mode Fixtures

                    I think the 45 and 80+ minute goals are due to playing on lower minutes. I rarely saw it when I played 15 minute halves. I think the match is just so short on 6 minutes that when teams finally start to figure out the opposing team, it's already late. So the goals come in and may be a bit forced by the engine, but they're usually deserved. At least that's how they've seemed to me. I've seen it a bit more on 10 minute halves, but nothing game breaking. They are also on all out offense at that point, so if your defense isn't solid, you're going to let 'em through. I don't think it's scripted or unstoppable as so many people claim. I've played a ton of career mode matches with different clubs and I've never found anything that I thought was unfair.

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                    • eyeamg0dly
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                      • May 2009
                      • 1671

                      #11
                      Re: Unwinnable Career Mode Fixtures

                      i agree the momentum is absurd at times. its usually noticable early on the game when super goalie is active or when i constantly hit bar shot after shot. when this happens, i know i my defense must not give up any cheap goals. So my focus is just to be patient and wait, hold them to a shutout or 1 goal if the team is good. the momentum will turn in your favor and you can completely swing the game into your favor if you are patient.
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                      • Gnemi
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                        • Jan 2012
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                        #12
                        Re: Unwinnable Career Mode Fixtures

                        Originally posted by eyeamg0dly
                        So my focus is just to be patient and wait, hold them to a shutout or 1 goal if the team is good. the momentum will turn in your favor and you can completely swing the game into your favor if you are patient.
                        I've tried this to no avail. Patience leads to nothing, unless I'm after a 0-0 or 1-1 draw.

                        Winning these matches just becomes a test of my sanity.

                        My recommendation is to honestly just move on. Take the point if you can get one. Accept no points if it's truly bad. EA are trying to keep your season, and moreover your Career Mode, interesting enough that you stick with it.

                        To some degree, it's hard to blame them. If I found myself top of the table and 8 points in the clear, I might not log on as often.

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                        • gerg1234
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                          • Jul 2008
                          • 2911

                          #13
                          Re: Unwinnable Career Mode Fixtures

                          Originally posted by Gnemi
                          I've tried this to no avail. Patience leads to nothing, unless I'm after a 0-0 or 1-1 draw.

                          Winning these matches just becomes a test of my sanity.

                          My recommendation is to honestly just move on. Take the point if you can get one. Accept no points if it's truly bad. EA are trying to keep your season, and moreover your Career Mode, interesting enough that you stick with it.

                          To some degree, it's hard to blame them. If I found myself top of the table and 8 points in the clear, I might not log on as often.
                          I play for the point too. I got lucky in one of the matches and had a beautiful header when I bombed in a pass from mid-field.
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                          • 4EverBlowingBubbles
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                            • Jan 2013
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                            #14
                            Re: Unwinnable Career Mode Fixtures

                            I hear you! The 80 minute cpu 'God mode' was unbearable at times when I first switched to Legendary mode and 15 minute halves. As mentioned before, the opposing team goes all out offense but this means their defensive line becomes as vunerable as yours. Just keep that in mind and keep passing the ball around. Go for through balls down the wings. I find these to be very effective, especially if you play with manual settings. I don't even try to dribble past the opponents. Even your fastest strikers will get easily tackled.

                            I now play as AFC Wimbledon in CM. Yesterday, had my first round league match against Nottingham Forest. I was leading the game 1-0 all the way up to the 80th minute, then BAM! God mode kicks in. 4 goals were scored in the final minutes of the match which finally ended in a 3-2 win to the AFC Dons. I scored my last two goals doing what I mentioned above. The poor bastards thought they could snatch victory from me.

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                            • _ChicoBass
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                              • Dec 2012
                              • 1816

                              #15
                              I actually think that when the "God mode" kicks in it's easier for me to score because the defensive line is so vulnerable. Since everyone rushes you (usually 2 or 3 players at a time) they leave wide open spaces. However there have been times when they take the win from me but oh well, that is football after all and I actually like this feature because its more realistic. It may be a bit exaggerated at times but overall realistic.

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