out of the last 14 losses all of them in the OP clinch

[Robalboa]

this clinch thing is out of control. its almost a guaranteed knock down stun or ko

and lately im noticing if you hit block (blocking the muai thai spammers) and accidentally hit any button it dont block at all

its like it thinks your parrying and dont block

happened all 14 losses they werent consecutive but damn same thing every time should speak volumes. check you data that clinch KO should be very seldom. not every other fight.

[Dave_S]

Re: out of the last 14 losses all of them in the OP clinch

Were you rocked before most of those clinch attempts?

[scyth223]

Re: out of the last 14 losses all of them in the OP clinch

My god I can't tell you how many times when you're rocked people try and clinch you to go for the cheap KO its pathetic.

[fishingtime]

Re: out of the last 14 losses all of them in the OP clinch

If you are still having problems with the clinch, you really need to practice it. If someone can keep you in it, they did. The clinch is one way to punish high block sitters. You don't want to get clinched, don't sit on high block. Be reactive and deny the clinch attempt instead. The window to deny is pretty big. I've been rocked and denied entries numerous times.

I swear, they are going to remove the clinch altogether because people just won't learn it.

[connolls]

Re: out of the last 14 losses all of them in the OP clinch

If you are still having problems with the clinch, you really need to practice it. If someone can keep you in it, they did. The clinch is one way to punish high block sitters. You don't want to get clinched, don't sit on high block. Be reactive and deny the clinch attempt instead. The window to deny is pretty big. I've been rocked and denied entries numerous times.

I swear, they are going to remove the clinch altogether because people just won't learn it.

Couldn't agree more, the only issue I have with the clinch is sometimes when you've been rocked and you're backed up against the cage and they get the instant thai clinch sometimes you can't block knees no matter what, it just goes through your block even if you don't have much arm damage. Other than that I think it's the best its been since the start of the game.

[derekwade111]

Re: out of the last 14 losses all of them in the OP clinch

Y'all need to learn to deny clinch attempts lmao I find them easier to deny then takedowns and it's really not that hard to see them coming

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[ryan4889]

Re: out of the last 14 losses all of them in the OP clinch

I like the clinch mechanics how they are, but knees and elbow damage from the clinch still need toned down more. I kill the cpu with these so bad it's funny.

[Boiler569]

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I agree w/ fish, mostly --- clinch is pretty damn tough so you really gotta practice it a LOT, even then you'll get caught w/ your pants down sometimes lol

and as he said, it's one of the only ways to counter ppl who just block alllll day

My god I can't tell you how many times when you're rocked people try and clinch you to go for the cheap KO its pathetic.

True...but I think this has just as much to do with the very poor 'finish the fight' mechanic/invisible shield, as it does the clinch



Overall I think clinch is ina decent spot.

I'd like to see punches do a bit more damage in single collar since they don't stop transitions anymore.

Sometimes I think clinch against the cage is a bit OP....would like to have a reversal in there; so if I deny someone quickly; I reverse them into the cage

Double Under Needs A Bigger Denial Window it's one of the MOST controlling positions in MMA and it has a TINY denial window lol not to mention no strikes to stop transitions

but it aint OP really....and it's relatively easy to survive in MT clinch to be honest, if you are patient

[norml]

Re: out of the last 14 losses all of them in the OP clinch

The only problem I have with the clinch is the MT knees. Way OP.

[Boiler569]

Re: out of the last 14 losses all of them in the OP clinch

The only problem I have with the clinch is the MT knees. Way OP.

yea...i know they said they toned them down by 20% but I don't think I saw much a difference during the LEC

[TurkeyOfJive]

Re: out of the last 14 losses all of them in the OP clinch

I don't mind the MT knee's at all - fuzzy guarding mostly solves that. My only problem is the tiny tiny window to deny MT against the cage. If the clinch went straight to SC or OU against the cage I'd have no issue with the window but because it's MT I think that's a bit daft.

[Webbington]

Re: out of the last 14 losses all of them in the OP clinch

The clinch is fine, especially with the recent 10% decrease in damage with knees. The difference is very noticeable. I still don't like being KOed through my block, but it happens.

[Haz____]

Re: out of the last 14 losses all of them in the OP clinch

Git Gud.


You gotta be a *** **** PRO to keep me in the clinch. It's not that hard. Practice.

[fishingtime]

Re: out of the last 14 losses all of them in the OP clinch

I like the clinch mechanics how they are, but knees and elbow damage from the clinch still need toned down more. I kill the cpu with these so bad it's funny.

This is the clinch though. An elbow to the head, when you are holding it, will do major damage. A knee to the head, when you pull their head to your knee, is going to do major damage. There is nothing wrong here.

"I don't like getting KO'ed in the clinch." Where do you like to lose? Whether it is standing, on the ground, or in the clinch, a loss is a loss. No one likes to lose. Should we get rid of the ground game too? You get rocked you have choices. Try a takedown, block, deny the clinch, or better yet clinch them first. That is four things you can do to try and keep from getting KO'ed here. I would shoot. That way, you can get distance if it doesn't go to the ground. If it does, just deny the sub attempt, or transition. Give yourself time to let your head recover.

I usually just clinch up too. Then block punches from single collar and try to transition. If you don't block the elbow, you are going to let them get a standing TKO or whatever. When your head is so red, you can't do anything. It is basically the game saying you are out. It is just up to the opponent to finish it from there.

[Robalboa]

Re: out of the last 14 losses all of them in the OP clinch

If you are still having problems with the clinch, you really need to practice it. If someone can keep you in it, they did. The clinch is one way to punish high block sitters. You don't want to get clinched, don't sit on high block. Be reactive and deny the clinch attempt instead. The window to deny is pretty big. I've been rocked and denied entries numerous times.

I swear, they are going to remove the clinch altogether because people just won't learn it.

i have a guy that you can fight and then comment on how the clinch is.
he pulls you it breaks every transition. then strike then pull, etc.

the game sucks pretty bad but this is just ridiculous.

also if a guy want to clinch you hes gonna get it i dont care how you try to avoid it.

And like i said the parry thing has carried into the clinch blocks. if you hit any button while blocking the clinch it wont block even though theres no parry there