Was something done to block seems a lot weaker

[rabbitfistssaipailo]

I know the patch just dropped but it seems as though block is weaker or it's not just regenerating like before .

It's seems a though who ever breaks block first wins now ...

Anyways what are your observations ?

Could be that I'm doing something wrong but it seems odd .

Particularly bad against pressure fighters .

I've resorted to not standing up till my head health regenerates a bit .





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[rabbitfistssaipailo]

Re: Was something done to block seems a lot weaker

Steep learning curve I agree but will observe some more

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[Sivo]

Re: Was something done to block seems a lot weaker

The block is meant to break faster when walking forward. So guessing that could be what your noticing

[NextupNico]

Re: Was something done to block seems a lot weaker

Steep learning curve I agree but will observe some more

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Not steep at all just gotta learn to be the aggressor this game is built for the players throwing more


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[RyanFitzmagic]

Re: Was something done to block seems a lot weaker

It's seems a though who ever breaks block first wins now ...

I can't say whether or not this applies to you, but if you rely on blocking for most/all of your defense, then yeah, that's gonna be the case.

[rabbitfistssaipailo]

Re: Was something done to block seems a lot weaker

The block is meant to break faster when walking forward. So guessing that could be what your noticing

Dude I'm fighting for my life here against a combo spammer who's idea of a good time is moving forward and throwing hundreds of strikes ...I'm not using block to walk him down .

I'm not about to be something I hate which is a head spammer .

Sort of like who will watch the watchmen ...if you know what I mean

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[Sivo]

Re: Was something done to block seems a lot weaker

Dude I'm fighting for my life here against a combo spammer who's idea of a good time is moving forward and throwing hundreds of strikes ...I'm not using block to walk him down .

i was thinking more along the lines of if u have the habit of walking forward while throwing strikes/blocking in the pocket, i do it sometimes without noticing where i just press forward every now and then when in the pocket and if u do that now your block breaks faster

[rabbitfistssaipailo]

Re: Was something done to block seems a lot weaker

I'm just going to give it a break for now ...and monitor the boards here and see what property are saying ...I'm being forced to be a head spammer here

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[rabbitfistssaipailo]

Re: Was something done to block seems a lot weaker

So I slip the 1 and block the 2 before I can do anything ...hooks and straights mixed with uppercut .

I move backwards and my opponent comes forward ...with the jab ,uppercut , jab uppercut ...as soon as he sees my fighter turtle up ...he knows it time for the over hand .

If I'm lucky I I duck the overhand if not I eat an uppercut hidden behind a jab that has broken my block .

Hmmm...

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[aholbert32]

Re: Was something done to block seems a lot weaker

I'm just going to give it a break for now ...and monitor the boards here and see what property are saying ...I'm being forced to be a head spammer here

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Can you post a video? I'm actually finding it relatively easy to deal with combo spammers but I fight from the outside alot.

[rabbitfistssaipailo]

Re: Was something done to block seems a lot weaker

Can you post a video? I'm actually finding it relatively easy to deal with combo spammers but I fight from the outside alot.

Bert I wish I could ...

I just need to calm down .

I showed my pal the notorious head spammer the new 1-2 in practice mode .

We got into custom fight mode .

The fights go like this mind you he always makes sure to pick fighters with mad stamina like bisping , t.ferg ,glover taxiera etc.

So it's he throws the 1-2 .

I slip the jab and block the straight .

He throws a jab and uppercut while I'm still blocking all the while using head movement fishing for counters if I successfully land a shot .

If I'm blocking he continues the jab ... uppercut ...jab ...jab straight ...

I have to back off once he sees my fighter turtle up he throws the overhand or hooks I go down .

He waits for me to stand up as my back is against the cage just none stop throwing strikes hidden behind jabs .

I tried slipping at first but it's all down to luck .

I it's just a non ...stop power bomb assault mixed with head movement a la iron sharrif .

Can't count how many 1st round fights I lost .

I've tried the back slip both major and minor but often get caught .

I did a beautiful chain slip once to dodge all his strikes but once my fighter turtles up after jabs and straights it over .

Even mortal Kombat has a more effective block ( sorry couldn't resist ).

I'm reading the blog right now again but it's not helping block is weak ...people are throwing mad strikes .

Even when I win ...it seems unsatisfactory as I'm like wait I hit you just twice and your block is gone .

It seems as though it's not a who's block breaks first competition and if your back is to the cage ...you are dead .

I will not give him the joy of catching me in a sway and seeing a rag doll k.o.

He's throwing mad strikes and he comes into the third round all fresh .

I can't take him down as he will defend it .

I can't go for the body as I will eat an uppercut .

I'm wary of the slip as most times the new patch makes the empty slip strike useless even when he doesn't throw anything .

It's just non...stop pressure .

It all starts with the jab...just two jabs and a straight and it's non stop pressure .

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[Nekrotik]

Re: Was something done to block seems a lot weaker

Yeah, I'm pretty done with this game now. I'm saying this fully knowing I'll eventually end up hooked again, but for the time being, it's just not fun for me.

I never was a head movement spammer and only used it as a last resort defense against people throwing nonstop combos (UT - this is really bad), and now that doesn't even work.

I don't find the idea of throwing a single 4-punch combo over and over again til my opponent falls down to be fun in any way, and that's what the game is right now. There isn't a real defensive option against spammers now.

Those new features that keep getting added and tweaked look great on those blog posts, where the opponent is throwing precisely the strike requested, under perfect, sterile conditions, but they don't really work in practice.

Those demonstrations remind me of a lot of self-defense 'instructors', whose moves look great on their students but are useless against a resisting opponent.

[rabbitfistssaipailo]

Re: Was something done to block seems a lot weaker

Yeah, I'm pretty done with this game now. I'm saying this fully knowing I'll eventually end up hooked again, but for the time being, it's just not fun for me.

I never was a head movement spammer and only used it as a last resort defense against people throwing nonstop combos (UT - this is really bad), and now that doesn't even work.

I don't find the idea of throwing a single 4-punch combo over and over again til my opponent falls down to be fun in any way, and that's what the game is right now. There isn't a real defensive option against spammers now.

Those new features that keep getting added and tweaked look great on those blog posts, where the opponent is throwing precisely the strike requested, under perfect, sterile conditions, but they don't really work in practice.

Those demonstrations remind me of a lot of self-defense 'instructors', whose moves look great on their students but are useless against a resisting opponent.

Even my friend agreed as he laughed that something was off since the new patch yesterday .

He only backs off if I make him miss as I retreat because of his short term stamina .

But the more I retreat the more he becomes aggressive ...it's like there's no trepidation with his strikes.

This someone that doesn't even know what r2 and r1 are on the pad you have to show him but he knows how to press ...and press .



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[DrawkD2]

Re: Was something done to block seems a lot weaker

"combo spammers" are easily beaten. every combo has an end and a delay where you through. If you don't try and counter and make them pay for coming in of course they can just spam you. people are quick to cry broken as always.

[rabbitfistssaipailo]

Re: Was something done to block seems a lot weaker

@DrawkD2 post a video here of you consistently beating a pressure fighter walking you down ...

Or better yet go to practice mode and go 1-2 ,111 ,mix in hooks ...and post here ...make sure the AI is moving forward .

I would appreciate it .

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