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  • rabbitfistssaipailo
    MVP
    • Nov 2017
    • 1625

    #16
    Re: Was something done to block seems a lot weaker

    Sport sim games are wearing me down ...and I let them . Just need a break .


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    • GameplayDevUFC
      Former EA Sports UFC Gameplay Developer
      • Jun 2014
      • 2830

      #17
      Re: Was something done to block seems a lot weaker

      I wish I had the energy to go back and quote the endless posts from the last two months complaining about how powerful block is.

      But I don't.

      Past OS would be confused by the wishes of present day OS.

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      • WarMMA
        MVP
        • Apr 2016
        • 4612

        #18
        Re: Was something done to block seems a lot weaker

        Originally posted by GameplayDevUFC
        I wish I had the energy to go back and quote the endless posts from the last two months complaining about how powerful block is.

        But I don't.

        Past OS would be confused by the wishes of present day OS.
        Lol get used to it man. Ppl won't ever be satisfied.

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        • TheWizard72
          Rookie
          • Dec 2017
          • 21

          #19
          Re: Was something done to block seems a lot weaker

          Originally posted by aholbert32
          Can you post a video? I'm actually finding it relatively easy to deal with combo spammers but I fight from the outside alot.
          Can you post a video of that? I enjoy fighting on the outside as well and would like to see how you approach the combo spammer.

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          • TheWizard72
            Rookie
            • Dec 2017
            • 21

            #20
            Re: Was something done to block seems a lot weaker

            Originally posted by GameplayDevUFC
            I wish I had the energy to go back and quote the endless posts from the last two months complaining about how powerful block is.

            But I don't.

            Past OS would be confused by the wishes of present day OS.
            Personally I enjoy the new block breakdown. Feels better. But early experience it’s not balanced with volume of strikes each character can throw. I’m still working with new sways which feel great but I run into many Diaz like fighters which hampers the fun for sure. I would like to see more endurance taxing on flurries(combo to combo without fully or near fully recovering). That or perhaps slow down footwork for people who flurry then flurry again without recovering and then can retreat at what feels like full speed with >25% stamina while rapidly recovering and slightly taxing endurance. If by the middle of second round these style players are gassing, then it would make it interesting forcing them to switch strategy or pay the price. Thanks for your time here and constantly working to improve this game! Very appreciated.

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            • aholbert32
              (aka Alberto)
              • Jul 2002
              • 33106

              #21
              Re: Was something done to block seems a lot weaker

              Originally posted by TheWizard72
              Can you post a video of that? I enjoy fighting on the outside as well and would like to see how you approach the combo spammer.


              Sure. I’ll post one this weekend.


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              • RetractedMonkey
                MVP
                • Dec 2017
                • 1624

                #22
                Re: Was something done to block seems a lot weaker

                Anyone struggling with this is clearly moving forward while blocking and not realizing it. Even if you aren't making any movements forward (because the opponent's body is stopping you), as long as you hold the left stick in that direction you will have a weaker guard. This is actually one of the best additions to the patch.

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                • TheGentlemanGhost
                  MVP
                  • Jun 2016
                  • 1321

                  #23
                  Re: Was something done to block seems a lot weaker

                  I said this is what was gonna happen if block breaking became easier. Win or lose, it just hasn't been fun to play since that's all every opponent online is wanting to do now. There were a lot of other additions & changes needed before a weaker block should have been implemented.

                  Nearly everyone I faced online today played the exact same way and it's made for really boring fights. I'm not even sure I'd say it's more frustrating than the head sway spam, it's just extreme mind numbingly dull. Esp since the best way to beat the spam is to time a jab or 1-2 of your own since it's the only strikes fast enough to combat the spam. So now every fight is mostly a back and forth of jabs & straights while taking turns walking down each other.

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                  Last edited by TheGentlemanGhost; 04-28-2018, 02:40 AM.

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                  • rabbitfistssaipailo
                    MVP
                    • Nov 2017
                    • 1625

                    #24
                    Re: Was something done to block seems a lot weaker

                    Originally posted by RetractedMonkey
                    Anyone struggling with this is clearly moving forward while blocking and not realizing it. Even if you aren't making any movements forward (because the opponent's body is stopping you), as long as you hold the left stick in that direction you will have a weaker guard. This is actually one of the best additions to the patch.
                    Question @ r.monkey @gameplaydev ...I thought the block break down was supposed to be deterrent to fighter walking you down holding block ...

                    Therefore ...i thought this happens when I'm consistently doing this and my opponent throws strikes consecutively .

                    But from what you are saying block breaks quicker when you enter the pocket with your guard up ? If I got this right then wow ...I think I'm not getting you right monkey .

                    But it seems weird as why would I enter the pocket without my guard up some times to block preemptively ...that means I would have to engage with lunging strikes which leaves me susceptible to getting countered . Unless I'm looking to sway first and counter .

                    Dear Geoff check my posts I'm one of your most loyal supporters ...I know what it's like to put in work and not get the desired response . This ain't no *** kiss either .

                    I will check it out with friends later today .

                    Thank you .


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                    • Abstrakt fists
                      Rookie
                      • Apr 2016
                      • 369

                      #25
                      Re: Was something done to block seems a lot weaker

                      Originally posted by GameplayDevUFC
                      I wish I had the energy to go back and quote the endless posts from the last two months complaining about how powerful block is.

                      But I don't.

                      Past OS would be confused by the wishes of present day OS.
                      I don't disagree with block breaking down quickly. The problem is that every other defensive option feels broken.

                      This patch took us from rock, paper, scissors to just rock, paper.

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                      • rabbitfistssaipailo
                        MVP
                        • Nov 2017
                        • 1625

                        #26
                        Re: Was something done to block seems a lot weaker

                        I thought the moving forward with block depletion patch ...only occurs when you are pressed up against your opponent's body ?
                        And continuously moving in this stance .


                        Can the devs confirm if this is true or otherwise ?

                        I'm confused .

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                        • Sivo
                          Rookie
                          • May 2016
                          • 428

                          #27
                          Re: Was something done to block seems a lot weaker

                          my problem with moving forward and blocking is if your trying to close down you opponent and they throw a shot, that first shot u either have to just eat it or try and block it but the odds are that if u block it, your block is most likely halfed in one punch because u cant stop moving and block quickly enough to prevent this. Most people did call for block to break quicker(but they're the same people who wanted full 360 headmovement) but with this and headmovement being so important now everything is reflex based and for the top 1000 players that is great but for anyone else who hasn't got the reflexes of a cat this game is becoming even more stressful and less fun.

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                          • rabbitfistssaipailo
                            MVP
                            • Nov 2017
                            • 1625

                            #28
                            Re: Was something done to block seems a lot weaker

                            @sivo ,

                            Dude I think the moving forward with a block change is faulty , the reason it was done was to stop Terminator style walking forward with block used by some fighters but to me this should only work when you are pressed up against them and you fire off 2 or three strikes ...the next strike should then do significant damage to the block .

                            But unless I'm wrong it seems like it happens when you enter the pocket with your guard up .

                            I

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                            • Sivo
                              Rookie
                              • May 2016
                              • 428

                              #29
                              Re: Was something done to block seems a lot weaker

                              ye but if your walking forward and the opponent stops and throws a jab and u pull up your guard to block the strike you are walking forward with your block up in punching range(in the pocket) hence the extra block damage. The patch notes stated "Made it so block breaks down faster when you are moving forward" no mention of in the pocket. I hope i'm wrong
                              Last edited by Sivo; 04-28-2018, 06:33 AM.

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                              • rabbitfistssaipailo
                                MVP
                                • Nov 2017
                                • 1625

                                #30
                                Re: Was something done to block seems a lot weaker

                                I find it ironic that the clue in the adventures of rabbit and Dave( the mystery of the patch ) is actually my biggest problem with this game

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