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  • Steve_OS
    Editor-in-Chief
    • Jul 2002
    • 33772

    #1

    MLB The Show 25 Franchise Mode: How Accurate Are the Simulated Stats?



    Have you ever played MLB the Show’s franchise mode and noticed that some of the simulated...

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  • Unlucky 13
    MVP
    • Apr 2009
    • 1707

    #2
    Re: MLB The Show 25 Franchise Mode: How Accurate Are the Simulated Stats?

    One thats WAY off in this year's edition of the game is number of games pitched by relievers. I'm currently at the end of May in my franchise, and a ton of CPU team relievers have more than 40 game appearances through roughly 60 team games. Some teams with three or four guys like that on one roster. Which is on pace to just blow past the league leaders in nearly any season IRL.
    Anyone who claims to be a fan of two teams in the same pro sport is actually a fan of none.

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    • MiracleMet718
      Pro
      • Apr 2016
      • 2028

      #3
      Re: MLB The Show 25 Franchise Mode: How Accurate Are the Simulated Stats?

      Originally posted by Unlucky 13
      One thats WAY off in this year's edition of the game is number of games pitched by relievers. I'm currently at the end of May in my franchise, and a ton of CPU team relievers have more than 40 game appearances through roughly 60 team games. Some teams with three or four guys like that on one roster. Which is on pace to just blow past the league leaders in nearly any season IRL.
      It’s better than previous years. The issue is that there isn’t enough player movement (especially since the full rosters are smaller compared to real life), so you get some relievers getting close to 85+ innings and even slightly over 100.

      But it’s better than years past where you’d have guys pitch 130 innings in the bullpen with no starts and have a 14-2 record.

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      • Wavebird99
        MVP
        • May 2009
        • 1203

        #4
        Re: MLB The Show 25 Franchise Mode: How Accurate Are the Simulated Stats?

        Yup - as shown by the testing here, strikeouts are way down in simulation for some reason for this years edition. Not the end of the world by any means but I have noticed it in a few different simulated seasons I've done for franchise mode. Unless you're an elite elite pitcher, its very likely your strikeout totals will be well down from real life.

        Everything else looks pretty solid though! Boy oh boy - the Rockies and White Sox are both really bad in this game.

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        • MiracleMet718
          Pro
          • Apr 2016
          • 2028

          #5
          Re: MLB The Show 25 Franchise Mode: How Accurate Are the Simulated Stats?

          Originally posted by Wavebird99
          Yup - as shown by the testing here, strikeouts are way down in simulation for some reason for this years edition. Not the end of the world by any means but I have noticed it in a few different simulated seasons I've done for franchise mode. Unless you're an elite elite pitcher, its very likely your strikeout totals will be well down from real life.

          Everything else looks pretty solid though! Boy oh boy - the Rockies and White Sox are both really bad in this game.
          Strikeouts are always down in the game because the K/9 on the default roster has every pitcher lower compared to the vision of the batters. It’s been that way for awhile and it’s because the overpower the DD players K/9s, so legends have higher K/9. If you bump up the K/9, it solves the problem.

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          • Unlucky 13
            MVP
            • Apr 2009
            • 1707

            #6
            Re: MLB The Show 25 Franchise Mode: How Accurate Are the Simulated Stats?

            Originally posted by MiracleMet718
            It’s better than previous years. The issue is that there isn’t enough player movement (especially since the full rosters are smaller compared to real life), so you get some relievers getting close to 85+ innings and even slightly over 100.

            But it’s better than years past where you’d have guys pitch 130 innings in the bullpen with no starts and have a 14-2 record.

            What I've done is turn the injury slider up for simmed games up while turning the one for my games down. This results in more minor injuries for the CPU teams, which in turn leads to more roster movement, pulling guys up from AAA, or outright releasing lesser guys and signing free agents. It works well, and I'm thankful for the new slider addition that makes it better.
            Anyone who claims to be a fan of two teams in the same pro sport is actually a fan of none.

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            • Therebelyell626
              MVP
              • Mar 2018
              • 2887

              #7
              Re: MLB The Show 25 Franchise Mode: How Accurate Are the Simulated Stats?

              The problem, and I could be wrong, is that they they are still using the sim engine from almost 15 years ago. That’s what the game sims this way. It’s the reason why if you build a sabermatic lineup your #2 hitter will almost universally have low home run totals. The game views this as a spot for a high contact “move the runners” type of hitter, instead of the best hitter on your team

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              • Unlucky 13
                MVP
                • Apr 2009
                • 1707

                #8
                Re: MLB The Show 25 Franchise Mode: How Accurate Are the Simulated Stats?

                Originally posted by Therebelyell626
                The problem, and I could be wrong, is that they they are still using the sim engine from almost 15 years ago. That’s what the game sims this way. It’s the reason why if you build a sabermatic lineup your #2 hitter will almost universally have low home run totals. The game views this as a spot for a high contact “move the runners” type of hitter, instead of the best hitter on your team

                Well, I still play and want to watch baseball from 15 years ago, so that's not so much a problem to me, lol. I hate what real life MLB has become on the field these days.
                Anyone who claims to be a fan of two teams in the same pro sport is actually a fan of none.

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                • MakaveliLPC
                  Rookie
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 361

                  #9
                  Re: MLB The Show 25 Franchise Mode: How Accurate Are the Simulated Stats?

                  Are there still way too many complete games for pitchers

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                  • countryboy
                    Growing pains
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 52728

                    #10
                    Re: MLB The Show 25 Franchise Mode: How Accurate Are the Simulated Stats?

                    Originally posted by MakaveliLPC
                    Are there still way too many complete games for pitchers

                    I’m at August 16th and there has been a total of 29 complete games thrown across the league.


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                    • Funkycorm
                      Cleveland Baseball Guru
                      • Nov 2016
                      • 3159

                      #11
                      Re: MLB The Show 25 Franchise Mode: How Accurate Are the Simulated Stats?

                      Originally posted by MakaveliLPC
                      Are there still way too many complete games for pitchers
                      There were 28 complete games in 2024. In simulations of current and future years, I have had from 22 to 34 complete games across the entire MLB. So definitely much better this iteration.
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                      • bilbobeuli
                        Rookie
                        • Oct 2023
                        • 58

                        #12
                        Re: MLB The Show 25 Franchise Mode: How Accurate Are the Simulated Stats?

                        Originally posted by MiracleMet718
                        Strikeouts are always down in the game because the K/9 on the default roster has every pitcher lower compared to the vision of the batters. It’s been that way for awhile and it’s because the overpower the DD players K/9s, so legends have higher K/9. If you bump up the K/9, it solves the problem.
                        Yup, it takes time, and I've done a lot of testing (which others just took without crediting me). But in general you should just raise every pitchers K/9 by a minimum of 10 points. Also, some hitters vision rating should be lowered.


                        With that, and a special sim slider set, I can get the sim stats pretty accurate to real life.

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                        • Funkycorm
                          Cleveland Baseball Guru
                          • Nov 2016
                          • 3159

                          #13
                          Re: MLB The Show 25 Franchise Mode: How Accurate Are the Simulated Stats?

                          Originally posted by Wavebird99
                          Yup - as shown by the testing here, strikeouts are way down in simulation for some reason for this years edition. Not the end of the world by any means but I have noticed it in a few different simulated seasons I've done for franchise mode. Unless you're an elite elite pitcher, its very likely your strikeout totals will be well down from real life.

                          Everything else looks pretty solid though! Boy oh boy - the Rockies and White Sox are both really bad in this game.
                          So I think the Ks are down this year because complete games are down and by extension IP are down.
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                          • MiracleMet718
                            Pro
                            • Apr 2016
                            • 2028

                            #14
                            Re: MLB The Show 25 Franchise Mode: How Accurate Are the Simulated Stats?

                            Originally posted by Funkycorm
                            So I think the Ks are down this year because complete games are down and by extension IP are down.
                            That’s not why. K/9 are down. The innings themselves are accurate, but you have guys like Nola pitching 185 innings with only 150 Ks when in reality he should be close to 200, or at least a 9 K/9.

                            The rating itself is off because the roster is used for DD and offline, so even though they allow K/9 to go up to 125 for DD, the default K/9 for offline is too low. It’s been an issue the last 2 years as well.

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