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  • tessl
    All Star
    • Apr 2007
    • 5684

    #1

    Clutch

    I use manage mode and therefore I don't see the PCI indicator. One thing I've never quite figured out is exactly what the clutch attribute does for batters and pitchers. My guess is it either replaces or modifies contact for batters with risp. For pitchers my guess is it either replaces or modifies H/9 with risp.

    One interesting thing is when scouting prospects their clutch rating isn't shown which is why I'm questioning whether clutch is as powerful an attribute as I thought. Seems like if it activated in every risp situation it would be important enough to have on the scouted prospect player's card. Perhaps it only activates in close games?

    Perhaps someone knows for sure? If so I'd appreciate a reply.
  • countryboy
    Growing pains
    • Sep 2003
    • 52759

    #2
    From the in game strategy guide:





    Clutch is a significant attribute especially for hitters in the 3-6 spots as they are typically going to bat the most with runners in scoring position. Clutch shows up in each situation with RISP, as shown by the batter feedback information that pops up. You'll notice that clutch has replaced contact.



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    Last edited by countryboy; 08-27-2025, 04:27 PM.
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    • tessl
      tessl commented
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      Thanks - I should have read the strategy guide. Don't you find it odd that the players card of scouted prospects doesn't show clutch? Perhaps they can slip that into next year's gamel

    • countryboy
      countryboy commented
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      No I don't. When you read about the scouting of real life prospects you don't see "clutch" as an area that is graded by analyst, so I don't think about it when scouting players in The Show.
  • tessl
    All Star
    • Apr 2007
    • 5684

    #3
    I understand what you are saying and I would agree if the draft in mlbts was the same as the draft in real life but that's not the case. I get only 3 scouts. To scout an individual player it takes between 2 weeks and a month for one scout to fully scout one player depending on the age of the player and ability of the scout. If I scout a position/region I can only scout 3 regions fully and only one position for that scout. Then if I spend one of seven picks to draft and sign a player on August 1st I see the player's clutch number and sometimes it's a poor number rendering the player next to useless. In reality a scout is looking at a lot of players. You would think the scout with nothing to do but scout one player would notice he can't hit with risp.

    I live in CoMO and I've attended games with a lot of scouts at the game for Heaney and Swanson. There were taking notes on a lot of players not just Heaney and Swanson who were first round picks. Therefore I would agree 100% if the game replicated real life but given the limitations of scouting and the draft pool I think we should get clutch on the prospect card.

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    • countryboy
      Growing pains
      • Sep 2003
      • 52759

      #4
      A low clutch number doesn't render a player next to useless.

      Here are the RISP average leaders 3 games after the All-Star break (2028 season)


      As you can see there is a mixture of lower clutch attribute players and high clutch attribute players. And yes there is a differential in the number of at-bats during RISP situations. And even if a player isn't the best hitter with RISP, they still can fill important roles on the team and in the lineup.

      I would recommend you go back and view the tutorial on scouting in the game to get an understanding of how it works, and how its intended to work, within its video game landscape to better yourself in making adequate decisions/plans when scouting.

      The one thing I would remind you is that the system isn't intended for you to scout 100's of prospects fully and know exactly how they are going to pan out over the course of their career. Doing so wouldn't be replicating real life.
      Last edited by countryboy; 08-29-2025, 04:13 PM.
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      I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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      • MiracleMet718
        Pro
        • Apr 2016
        • 2048

        #5
        Also the clutch stat is one of the few that have a higher rate of progression. You can have a draft pick with a 20-30 clutch rating and by the time they get to their age 27 season, it can be well into the 80s.

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        • tessl
          tessl commented
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          I'm not seeing those results. Are you training vision/discipline/clutch?
      • countryboy
        Growing pains
        • Sep 2003
        • 52759

        #6
        To add on, I don't think the clutch rating has as big of an impact, especially negatively, on a player's hitting ability as one may think given how it is described as working.

        When I have a player come up in RISP situation with a low clutch, its not like their PCI shrinks to miniscule levels, or even significantly. Same for it increasing when a player has a high clutch rating. Does it change the PCI? Yes absolutely, but the changes both positive and negative aren't nearly as dramatic as one might think given how its described to work.
        I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

        I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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        • tessl
          All Star
          • Apr 2007
          • 5684

          #7
          Originally posted by countryboy
          A low clutch number doesn't render a player next to useless.

          Here are the RISP average leaders 3 games after the All-Star break (2028 season)


          As you can see there is a mixture of lower clutch attribute players and high clutch attribute players. And yes there is a differential in the number of at-bats during RISP situations. And even if a player isn't the best hitter with RISP, they still can fill important roles on the team and in the lineup.

          I would recommend you go back and view the tutorial on scouting in the game to get an understanding of how it works, and how its intended to work, within its video game landscape to better yourself in making adequate decisions/plans when scouting.

          The one thing I would remind you is that the system isn't intended for you to scout 100's of prospects fully and know exactly how they are going to pan out over the course of their career. Doing so wouldn't be replicating real life.
          Good video. The top players with 100 AB all have good clutch rating.

          You think the show draft replicates real life?

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          • countryboy
            Growing pains
            • Sep 2003
            • 52759

            #8
            Originally posted by tessl

            Good video. The top players with 100 AB all have good clutch rating.

            You think the show draft replicates real life?
            I think MLBTS does a great job of simulating a condensed version of what organizations go through in terms scouting and drafting players.


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            I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

            I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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            • tessl
              All Star
              • Apr 2007
              • 5684

              #9
              Originally posted by countryboy

              I think MLBTS does a great job of simulating a condensed version of what organizations go through in terms scouting and drafting players.


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              You are a clever wordsmith.

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              • countryboy
                Growing pains
                • Sep 2003
                • 52759

                #10
                Originally posted by tessl

                You are a clever wordsmith.
                Ok


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                I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

                I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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                • SmashMan
                  All Star
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 9730

                  #11
                  I can’t believe you made a thread about Clutch just to turn it into a draft thing again.

                  new OS, same tessl posts 🤣

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                  • tessl
                    tessl commented
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                    I haven't posted here in 6 months.
                • Ghost Of The Year
                  Turn Left. Repeat.
                  • Mar 2014
                  • 6365

                  #12
                  Originally posted by countryboy
                  From the in game strategy guide:





                  Clutch is a significant attribute especially for hitters in the 3-6 spots as they are typically going to bat the most with runners in scoring position. Clutch shows up in each situation with RISP, as shown by the batter feedback information that pops up. You'll notice that clutch has replaced contact.



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                  Thread question answered perfectly. Time for a lock.
                  T-BONE.

                  Talking about things nobody cares.

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