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  • KHarmo88
    Legend
    • Feb 2012
    • 2117

    #16
    Re: PS4 stadiums built from scratch!!! speculations and hopes

    I want the pittsburgh backdrop in night games to actually be lit up. Not just a dark background. The buildings have lights on. Exterior stadium lighting. Etc.
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    • seanjeezy
      The Future
      • Aug 2009
      • 3347

      #17
      Re: PS4 stadiums built from scratch!!! speculations and hopes

      Originally posted by kehlis
      Might be the ugliest but the lighting in Cleveland needs to be fixed so I can finally hit there in the early innings.
      That's part of the realism! There needs to be a sunglass filter or something
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      • Shaffer26
        MVP
        • Feb 2009
        • 1237

        #18
        Re: PS4 stadiums built from scratch!!! speculations and hopes

        Originally posted by KHarmo88
        I want the pittsburgh backdrop in night games to actually be lit up. Not just a dark background. The buildings have lights on. Exterior stadium lighting. Etc.
        This is a big one for me as well!

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        • MrOldboy
          MVP
          • Feb 2011
          • 2653

          #19
          Re: PS4 stadiums built from scratch!!! speculations and hopes

          Originally posted by Knight165
          Considering that the retractable roof stadiums are entirely different(as far as "building them" for the game)....from the current form in the game....and the sheer amount of time to make them.....I'd temper my expectations for them this year.
          But that's just me.

          M.K.
          Knight165
          I think a good middle ground would be to have two versions of those stadiums, one open, one closed. No changing during games, but at least have the two available based on the time of day and weather. This has been suggested before and I think people would be grateful for them as its been something that's been asked about for years.

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          • Blzer
            Resident film pundit
            • Mar 2004
            • 42517

            #20
            Re: PS4 stadiums built from scratch!!! speculations and hopes

            Originally posted by KHarmo88
            I want the pittsburgh backdrop in night games to actually be lit up. Not just a dark background. The buildings have lights on. Exterior stadium lighting. Etc.
            Well, I see two ways to this:

            1) It would be nice to get that kind of interactivity (look long enough and you see a light speck go on or off in some office lol).

            2) I'm expecting a lot out of next-gen with regard to ambient light and that "hazy" look on a cold night, which means it wouldn't be so easy to see that stuff in the background. Remember, when you're inside of a stadium and the lights are on, everything else appears much darker. Heck, night skies appear pitch-black. That's because all the light is vacuumed into the venue, or at least how we see it.

            Anyway, I'm not saying this stuff isn't visible at night. I'm just saying there's a difference between seeing a skyline while inside of a stadium and while outside of a stadium:









            Note that I totally understand these are two different types of photography and the latter shot probably was a lot more exposed, but this is still the ambient light effect that I'm referring to.
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            • Blzer
              Resident film pundit
              • Mar 2004
              • 42517

              #21
              Re: PS4 stadiums built from scratch!!! speculations and hopes

              Anyway, also not exactly stadium-related, I'm really expecting an overhauled evening-to-night sky transition. Since its implementation in MLB '09, although it's there, IMO it's been pretty weak. I really hate to say that because they actually have it and that's just too awesome, but it stays around in the dusk sky too long and shoots straight to pitch black way too quickly. It never accounts for that "deep, dark blue" look that it should have for a while.

              I'm guessing they have that addressed for next-gen. I just... can't... wait!
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              • Knight165
                *ll St*r
                • Feb 2003
                • 24964

                #22
                Re: PS4 stadiums built from scratch!!! speculations and hopes

                Originally posted by MrOldboy
                I think a good middle ground would be to have two versions of those stadiums, one open, one closed. No changing during games, but at least have the two available based on the time of day and weather. This has been suggested before and I think people would be grateful for them as its been something that's been asked about for years.
                I don't think that will be the middle ground....I think that will be it...
                When?....


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                Knight165
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                • Majingir
                  Moderator
                  • Apr 2005
                  • 47528

                  #23
                  Re: PS4 stadiums built from scratch!!! speculations and hopes

                  Like the obvious answers said...retractable roofs.

                  For Rogers Centre, I also hope they removed the restaurant windows. Unfortunately for SCEA, Rogers Centre was outdated before the game was even released, it's just that nobody got to see what the stadium looked like without the windows until around March.

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                  • KHarmo88
                    Legend
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 2117

                    #24
                    Re: PS4 stadiums built from scratch!!! speculations and hopes

                    Originally posted by Blzer
                    Well, I see two ways to this:

                    1) It would be nice to get that kind of interactivity (look long enough and you see a light speck go on or off in some office lol).

                    2) I'm expecting a lot out of next-gen with regard to ambient light and that "hazy" look on a cold night, which means it wouldn't be so easy to see that stuff in the background. Remember, when you're inside of a stadium and the lights are on, everything else appears much darker. Heck, night skies appear pitch-black. That's because all the light is vacuumed into the venue, or at least how we see it.

                    Anyway, I'm not saying this stuff isn't visible at night. I'm just saying there's a difference between seeing a skyline while inside of a stadium and while outside of a stadium:









                    Note that I totally understand these are two different types of photography and the latter shot probably was a lot more exposed, but this is still the ambient light effect that I'm referring to.
                    I completely understand what you're saying and it makes sense. But, as a season ticket holder at PNC, the representation of the city in the PS3 version of the game, does not accurately reflect real life. If madden can get it right with heinz at night, SCEA can surely get it right.
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                    • Blzer
                      Resident film pundit
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 42517

                      #25
                      Re: PS4 stadiums built from scratch!!! speculations and hopes

                      Originally posted by KHarmo88
                      I completely understand what you're saying and it makes sense. But, as a season ticket holder at PNC, the representation of the city in the PS3 version of the game, does not accurately reflect real life. If madden can get it right with heinz at night, SCEA can surely get it right.
                      Oh, I never said the PS3 version got it right. I'm just saying that it wouldn't look quite the same inside the stadium as it would outside the stadium.

                      I think they'll get it fairly close to right. People here have some expectations of what this game will look like, and in my mind there is a completely different look that revolves much more around "atmosphere" being correct. I think people will be wowed, including myself.
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                      • MrOldboy
                        MVP
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 2653

                        #26
                        Re: PS4 stadiums built from scratch!!! speculations and hopes

                        Originally posted by Knight165
                        I don't think that will be the middle ground....I think that will be it...
                        When?....


                        M.K.
                        Knight165
                        I mean a middle ground between those who expect fully functioning retractable roofs and those who don't mind going without it. Satisfies the first group and impresses the second.

                        It would be damn impressive if they added in functioning roofs with their lighting engine, but that seems like a fever dream at this point.

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                        • Knight165
                          *ll St*r
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 24964

                          #27
                          Re: PS4 stadiums built from scratch!!! speculations and hopes

                          Originally posted by MrOldboy
                          I mean a middle ground between those who expect fully functioning retractable roofs and those who don't mind going without it. Satisfies the first group and impresses the second.

                          It would be damn impressive if they added in functioning roofs with their lighting engine, but that seems like a fever dream at this point.
                          Ahh...I see.
                          Yeah......I guess it's possible...but like you say....it might be a bit of a stretch.

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                          Knight165
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                          • zrtelford
                            Rookie
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 253

                            #28
                            Re: PS4 stadiums built from scratch!!! speculations and hopes

                            Oh also Kinda related is having better entrances from the bullpen, showing the reliever run out from the outfield would be a nice touch...I mean you could click X and skip after the billionth time seeing it, but having it there, that's a little more immersion. I think as it was in 13' they just kinda skipped to them on the mound. like I said that is sorta related.

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                            • Clarke99
                              Banned
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 462

                              #29
                              Re: PS4 stadiums built from scratch!!! speculations and hopes

                              Some cool ideas, I'd like retractable roofs but not overly convinced that's happening anytime soon.
                              I 100% agree with the outside the stadium ambiance, more things like statues and what makes every ballpark unique its odd that MLB 06!!! had an outside preview of stadiums but never once on PS3 did we see that.

                              As for my own bone to pick, after being to Cleveland last summer twice there is a food market in centre field behind the Indians Hall of Fame (which also could use some detail) and as well the Progressive SUV that's in front of the Center Field Bar.
                              Also if they were to do the Ambiance thing there is a very nice picnic area outside of the team shop and in Detroit theres the Kids area with the Carousel.

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                              • Sco291
                                Pro
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 557

                                #30
                                Re: PS4 stadiums built from scratch!!! speculations and hopes

                                I've been asking for the exterior shots of stadium for years now haha. Seeing just a panorama type shot, or fans walking in, or just a medium-to-slow-pan on the exterior of the stadium.

                                I expect to see blimp shots this year...especially at night, maybe on sunday nights if thats something they'd be able to do. I think the game needs to immerse the stadium more into the presentation, along with outside surrounding neighborhoods/buildings/streets with cars going by, to add to the feeling of "big game tonight, and then seeing wow look at all the activity outside the stadium".

                                I guess like, just that feeling of there's actually life outside of the stadium and not just a stadium created with the thought of nothing on the outside. If that makes any sense to anyone haha

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