New PS4 Gameplay Screenshot!!

[lhslancers]

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The screenshots for the PS4 definitely look better than anything they have done before on the older console. You have to be fair to Sony. This is the first year on the new console. It will most definitely get better as time goes along but if you are expecting the world the first time out you will be disappointed.

[LastActionHero]

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Maybe they want horses on the field? Different skeleton for sure...

[ryanmc564]

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Maybe they want horses on the field? Different skeleton for sure...

Lol, that's it. make it happen scea we want horses on the field. And go ahead and give players machine guns too and have a zombie mode too those seem to popular these days.

[tnixen]

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Maybe they want horses on the field? Different skeleton for sure...

No horses lol but some birds flying by and a random cat and or squirrel running onto the field would be kind of cool to see once in a while

[HustlinOwl]

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No horses lol but some birds flying by and a random cat and or squirrel running onto the field would be kind of cool to see once in a while

lol they added kids next year I want bark in the park day with dogs in the stands

[tnixen]

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lol they added kids next year I want bark in the park day with dogs in the stands

Now were talking

[bodhiball]

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some visuals!

Using the assumption that they may be the same skeleton used in the PS4 version, I wanted to show some of what I THINK stands out to people still.

Though most of the proportions seem correct when I measure, there is a general feel of the players legs seeming short (especially from the knee down)..you can see this in the Verlander image) and large heads (you can see this in the Freeman model and players like Kershaw and others). There is also something in the hips, and the combination makes the models seem "boyish", more like cartoon versions of themselves. It's subtle, but it does show...again using the Freeman image as an example.

In the Freeman image I copied the player model in the third shot and made very minor adjustments....reduced the head size, gave him broader shoulders and reduced the "flare" of the sleeves, and slightly increased the overall length of the hips/legs. Its going to be a preference I understand, though to me the adjusted image looks more like a man, and more representative of Freeman.

In general there does not seem to be a range of "figures" or body compositions which allow easier identification of who is who. Looking at the Rollins comparison, he looks pretty buff, and glanced quickly even resembles more of a Ryan Howard model. Part of this is the shoulders, partly since there is no "clothing hang" the pants and jerseys seem more that the player fills them out fully...making them bulkier than they really are.

It's one of the things I am amazed with in NBA 2k14, that even from a distance you can recognize players just by their player model...different levels of bulk and tone, fat, muscle, skinny etc., and then of course the fact that their clothing hangs off of that model, allows for even more realism.

Dont know if this answers the question from the developer, or hopefully shows visually what sometimes stands out. I have the flu...I have way too much time on my hands right now.

[Shakedowncapo]

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People can complain about player models, but of the same company is designing a game why would they change the models they've used? Madden didn't change their models. 2K didn't change fee theirs, and doesn't look like fifa changed theirs.

Did they do things to enhance it? Sure, but the model itself doesn't seem changed.

I mean the shot of the Orioles player (name escapes me atm) shows the massive difference between PS3 tech and PS4 tech.

Then again I haven't played The Show since TS10 and have dissected every piece of a few stills.

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2K14 sure did. Just look at the comparison between Kevin Durant in the PS3, 360 generation and compare his skeleton to the PS4, XBone generation...Its a whole new model for him...A more slender model that more accurately depicts his body type.

I really think SCEA should look at what 2K did and try to replicate it. People may give their dismissive answers now, but they would love the improvement the instant they see it in the future.

[metsfan4life1]

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People can complain about player models, but of the same company is designing a game why would they change the models they've used? Madden didn't change their models. 2K didn't change fee theirs, and doesn't look like fifa changed theirs.

Did they do things to enhance it? Sure, but the model itself doesn't seem changed.

I mean the shot of the Orioles player (name escapes me atm) shows the massive difference between PS3 tech and PS4 tech.

Then again I haven't played The Show since TS10 and have dissected every piece of a few stills.

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It's not the tech. That pitcher got a new cyber face.. It's not because of him being on the PS4.

[TheFlamingWeazel]

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The screenshots for the PS4 definitely look better than anything they have done before on the older console. You have to be fair to Sony. This is the first year on the new console. It will most definitely get better as time goes along but if you are expecting the world the first time out you will be disappointed.

No one will be disappointed.....It is a big leap from ps3 to ps4 and in motion it will be a very big difference. Playing infamous right now and the visuals are amazing, a major leap from anything i've seen on ps3.

Not sure why some always seem to want to downplay PS4, maybe cannot afford one?

[THESHAMISASHAME]

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Did you mean to say that it is "not" the skeleton for you? I only ask because the two things you mentioned:

1) Cloth physics
2) Body type (heavy, muscular, thin, etc.)

do not really have anything to do with animation skeleton.

I may have missed something, but it seems that the issue with the player models on the PS4 is that they should look "new" (which, from what I gather, means different) because it is a new console. And even if they are different in the increased amount of detail and resolution, that is not significant enough.



Am I correct?

For me you said it perfectly and its exactly how I feel so thank you WW and the models are ok but their already 3 years old and some parts even older .

[THESHAMISASHAME]

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Lol, that's it. make it happen scea we want horses on the field. And go ahead and give players machine guns too and have a zombie mode too those seem to popular these days.

I think mlb 2k3 had a zombie sammy sosa face but now that you brought it up how about some real weather effects as thats huge in baseball especially in April and October and in this game its almost non existent .

[lhslancers]

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No one will be disappointed.....It is a big leap from ps3 to ps4 and in motion it will be a very big difference. Playing infamous right now and the visuals are amazing, a major leap from anything i've seen on ps3.

Not sure why some always seem to want to downplay PS4, maybe cannot afford one?

Maybe. Who knows. We're all anonymous here.

[Madden's Jowels]

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some visuals!

Using the assumption that they may be the same skeleton used in the PS4 version, I wanted to show some of what I THINK stands out to people still.

Though most of the proportions seem correct when I measure, there is a general feel of the players legs seeming short (especially from the knee down)..you can see this in the Verlander image) and large heads (you can see this in the Freeman model and players like Kershaw and others). There is also something in the hips, and the combination makes the models seem "boyish", more like cartoon versions of themselves. It's subtle, but it does show...again using the Freeman image as an example.

In the Freeman image I copied the player model in the third shot and made very minor adjustments....reduced the head size, gave him broader shoulders and reduced the "flare" of the sleeves, and slightly increased the overall length of the hips/legs. Its going to be a preference I understand, though to me the adjusted image looks more like a man, and more representative of Freeman.

In general there does not seem to be a range of "figures" or body compositions which allow easier identification of who is who. Looking at the Rollins comparison, he looks pretty buff, and glanced quickly even resembles more of a Ryan Howard model. Part of this is the shoulders, partly since there is no "clothing hang" the pants and jerseys seem more that the player fills them out fully...making them bulkier than they really are.

It's one of the things I am amazed with in NBA 2k14, that even from a distance you can recognize players just by their player model...different levels of bulk and tone, fat, muscle, skinny etc., and then of course the fact that their clothing hangs off of that model, allows for even more realism.

Dont know if this answers the question from the developer, or hopefully shows visually what sometimes stands out. I have the flu...I have way too much time on my hands right now.

This is a great post.


The jokesters who are saying stuff like "maybe they should add horses or a zombie mode hehehehehe" C'mon now. Everybody in this thread who has been critiquing the player models has been very respectful to the developers and complimentary towards The Show in general. We all love The Show. If people are making well-intentioned and respectful criticisms then I believe that should be respected.


If you want an example of how NOT to make a criticism of The Show, please see all the posts made by nuke_21 (now banned) in this thread: http://www.operationsports.com/forum...russell-3.html


None of the "player models need work" guys in this thread or the large PS4 screenshot thread (which seems to have carried over into here) has been behaving like that, so why are they being treated like trolls just for trying to point out a place that has room for improvement? I don't recall anybody saying they won't be buying the game because the player models aren't perfect.

[Grnngld]

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some visuals!

Using the assumption that they may be the same skeleton used in the PS4 version, I wanted to show some of what I THINK stands out to people still.

Though most of the proportions seem correct when I measure, there is a general feel of the players legs seeming short (especially from the knee down)..you can see this in the Verlander image) and large heads (you can see this in the Freeman model and players like Kershaw and others). There is also something in the hips, and the combination makes the models seem "boyish", more like cartoon versions of themselves. It's subtle, but it does show...again using the Freeman image as an example.

In the Freeman image I copied the player model in the third shot and made very minor adjustments....reduced the head size, gave him broader shoulders and reduced the "flare" of the sleeves, and slightly increased the overall length of the hips/legs. Its going to be a preference I understand, though to me the adjusted image looks more like a man, and more representative of Freeman.

In general there does not seem to be a range of "figures" or body compositions which allow easier identification of who is who. Looking at the Rollins comparison, he looks pretty buff, and glanced quickly even resembles more of a Ryan Howard model. Part of this is the shoulders, partly since there is no "clothing hang" the pants and jerseys seem more that the player fills them out fully...making them bulkier than they really are.

It's one of the things I am amazed with in NBA 2k14, that even from a distance you can recognize players just by their player model...different levels of bulk and tone, fat, muscle, skinny etc., and then of course the fact that their clothing hangs off of that model, allows for even more realism.

Dont know if this answers the question from the developer, or hopefully shows visually what sometimes stands out. I have the flu...I have way too much time on my hands right now.

Thanks for excellently articulating what I've been thinking. When I see the MLB 14 PS4 models, I think it looks like an higher rez version of the PS3 models with better lighting. No, I'm not saying that's what they actually are, that's just my initial impression. When I see the NBA 2k14 models, as shown by your screenshot, I think "Wow!", and they truly stand out as next gen to me.

But we're still in the first year of the new console so I have confidence in the dev team to deliver better in the future iterations. Just look at the difference between MLB 07 PS3 models and MLB 13's.