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  • ThaShark28_316
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    • Apr 2008
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    #31
    Re: MLB 14 The Show Gets Assist From Players - New "Showtime" Button Coming Next Year

    Originally posted by bluengold34_OS
    You said it - now can you explain it?
    Alright, I shall.

    It simply feels...like a gimmick. What in the you-know-what does this game need with such a button? Now, I'm not ever one to complain -- because I play this game for the enjoyment (not looking for flaws like folks on most gaming message boards), and damn near ignore this franchise's flaws (I guess it's the baseball being first in me...) -- but it feels like a baseball version of the heat seeker/ball hawk button. Feels kind of forced.

    A 'showtime' button? What are we playing? Madden 08 (I think that's what it was) and its highlight stick? I know all the info is so far from being out, so I could be overreacting. That said, until further notice, this seems off for THIS sport for me. I'll trust Ramone and 'nem to get something like this right, but as of right now...ehh.
    Last edited by ThaShark28_316; 03-28-2014, 09:49 PM.
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    • bluengold34_OS
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      • Nov 2004
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      #32
      Re: MLB 14 The Show Gets Assist From Players - New "Showtime" Button Coming Next Year

      Originally posted by ThaShark28_316
      Alright, I shall.

      It simply feels...like a gimmick. What in the you-know-what does this game need with such a button? Now, I'm not ever one to complain -- because I play this game for the enjoyment (not looking for flaws like folks on most gaming message boards), and damn near ignore this franchise's flaws (I guess it's the baseball being first in me...) -- but it feels like a baseball version of the heat seeker/ball hawk button. Feels kind of forced.

      A 'showtime' button? What are we playing? MLB Slugfest? I know all the info is so far from being out, so I could be overreacting. That said, until further notice, this seems off for THIS sport for me. I'll trust Ramone and 'nem to get something like this right, but as of right now...ehh.
      Fair enough, and I appreciate the explanation. I normally might agree with the thought process, if it wasn't SCEA as a developer. Now I am not claiming they are perfect, and impervious to mistakes or criticism. What I do know is this - If SCEA decides to implement a new mode or game option, while everyone may not like it, it will at least get the proper attention it needs from the developer - and not that tacked on feeling. While I am a firm believer in the fact that everyone has a right to post their own opinion(s) on these forums, your original post just came across as a dig towards a company that has done extremely well by its customer base over the years -

      Please take no offense to what I am saying - that's why I asked for an explanation, and I really did appreciate you taking the time to explain yourself.
      Last edited by bluengold34_OS; 03-28-2014, 09:54 PM.
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      • Joey
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        • Mar 2004
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        #33
        Re: MLB 14 The Show Gets Assist From Players - New "Showtime" Button Coming Next Year

        I love how we're already judging something that's not even in the game. Or even planned, for that matter. Pretty sure these guys have no desire to go the arcade route so I'll reserve judgment when/if something like this is ever implemented.

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        • ThaShark28_316
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          • Apr 2008
          • 692

          #34
          Re: MLB 14 The Show Gets Assist From Players - New "Showtime" Button Coming Next Year

          Originally posted by bluengold34_OS
          Fair enough, and I appreciate the explanation. I normally might agree with the thought process, if it wasn't SCEA as a developer. Now I am not claiming they are perfect, and impervious to mistakes or criticism. What I do know is this - If SCEA decides to implement a new mode or game option, while everyone may not like it, it will at least get the proper attention it needs from the developer - and not that tacked on feeling. While I am a firm believer in the fact that everyone has a right to post their own opinion(s) on these forums, your original post just came across as a dig towards a company that has done extremely well by its customer base over the years -

          Please take no offense to what I am saying - that's why I asked for an explanation, and I really did appreciate you taking the time to explain yourself.
          No offense taken at all. Thanks for hearing me out. Wasn't really a DIG, more than it was concern. I love what SCEA does (I'll be buying all 3 versions to SHOW--see what I did there?--my love and support.

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          • agentlaw13
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            • Feb 2009
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            #35
            Re: MLB 14 The Show Gets Assist From Players - New "Showtime" Button Coming Next Year

            I think the showtime button would be a cool feature. I would want it to be limited to players with a certain fielding rating or give us the option to toggle it on/off for certain players in the player editor. With having a high risk/high reward type animation tied to the button, I would personally use it in early innings or blowouts on certain plays, where the risk of an error might not be quite as critical. With myself being more of a sim/true to life type player, I wouldnt use it on every grounder or fielding opportunity, therefore preventing it from giving my game an arcade type feel.
            Last edited by agentlaw13; 03-28-2014, 11:17 PM.

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            • Clarke99
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              • Feb 2012
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              #36
              Re: MLB 14 The Show Gets Assist From Players - New "Showtime" Button Coming Next Year

              This article made one thing clear, don't listen to the players lol unless it were something like the lifestyle of an MLB player for RTTS story mode or something and you needed material

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              • scottyp180
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                • Jun 2007
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                #37
                It would be cool if this ended up being a ps4 exclusive feature by using the touchpad to attempt these plays.

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                • chitownwonder
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                  • Feb 2012
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                  #38
                  Re: MLB 14 The Show Gets Assist From Players - New "Showtime" Button Coming Next Year

                  I truly don't understand the problem with having a Showtime button. If this was put into the gm I would want total control over when it happened, instead of it being ratings based. Just have it as an option you could toggle on/ off.

                  We should all know by now SCEA won't implement something like this until it is done correctly. Not jumping on anyone but complaining about something before it's even in the game or how it would work is jumping to conclusions. Just because this or that company didn't do it right doesn't mean it can't be done right!!!
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                  • bwiggy33
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                    • Jul 2006
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                    #39
                    Re: MLB 14 The Show Gets Assist From Players - New "Showtime" Button Coming Next Year

                    Originally posted by MrOldboy
                    I think the concern with this isn't that its not required, but more that some people may have trouble using it and would miss out on a really cool feature. They may want to use those animations, but aren't great at using the "button". I think having it triggered automatically based on how high a player's ratings are is the best way to handle this, but have the option to only have it triggered manually if you want that difficulty. Maybe just a difference between the default difficulty setting and HoF or Legend.
                    Got ya. I hear and understand that now. Definitely makes sense. Thank you for the clarification. I'm sure the dev's can find a way to make it work for everyone, especially since they are on this site reading feedback.
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                    • MrOldboy
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                      #40
                      Re: MLB 14 The Show Gets Assist From Players - New "Showtime" Button Coming Next Year

                      Originally posted by chitownwonder
                      I truly don't understand the problem with having a Showtime button. If this was put into the gm I would want total control over when it happened, instead of it being ratings based. Just have it as an option you could toggle on/ off.

                      We should all know by now SCEA won't implement something like this until it is done correctly. Not jumping on anyone but complaining about something before it's even in the game or how it would work is jumping to conclusions. Just because this or that company didn't do it right doesn't mean it can't be done right!!!
                      No one is complaining, its the same type of discussion that happens when someone makes a thread with "I have a great idea for _______" or when a new feature is announced. People see something that could be in the game and then discuss ways it could work, or not, or if they just hate the idea or love it.

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                      • A_Quiet_Pro
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                        • Feb 2013
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                        #41
                        Re: MLB 14 The Show Gets Assist From Players - New "Showtime" Button Coming Next Year

                        Something to think about... in the article it was said that hitters have tendencies and certain batters do things that is unique to themselves. (As Buster mentioned, catchers pick up on these kind of things).. My thought?...... What if fielders have unique tendencies towards batters or situations? Not like the managers saying put on the shift, but like say a fielder does something unique to counter what a hitter trends to or something they do in a certain situation... I know this sounds ambiguous, and weird, but it would be interesting to get well, I guess player specific A.I. in the future. (Like I said earlier in the thread.....DNA.i.) lol

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                        • nemesis04
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                          • Feb 2004
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                          #42
                          Re: MLB 14 The Show Gets Assist From Players - New "Showtime" Button Coming Next Year

                          Originally posted by MrOldboy
                          Showtime button would be nice, but only in that it would add more flamboyant animations to the fielding. I think I'd rather that these animations only express themselves when a player has high fielding ratings, but have them trigger automatically when the situation calls for it. If its another button I feel like many players may not get to use/see those animations.
                          To a certain extent the Show does this now. Each player has a specific portfolio of animations so to speak available to them based on their ratings. It is not perfect as we still see certain players doing certain fielding animations that are beyond their scope of ability. It has come a long way from where it started though. Personally I like that they happen automatically now but I would be open to seeing what they could do tying those specific highlight type actions to a button.
                          Last edited by nemesis04; 03-29-2014, 08:51 AM.
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                          • JoshC1977
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                            • Dec 2010
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                            #43
                            Re: MLB 14 The Show Gets Assist From Players - New "Showtime" Button Coming Next Year

                            I like the concept if it applies to CPU players as well with a "spectacular play likelihood rating" in which the higher the rating, the more likely a player is to try a "spectacular play" (humans have the button which they could use anytime). If one of these are triggered, it would automatically cause a percentage reduction in a player's fielding and/or throw rating (think like a 75% reduction in fielding ratings as a baseline). However, there would be a second rating that the higher it is, the less of a hit players take a when trying one (up to say only a 25% reduction). So, if a player has a 100 in the second rating, and a 100 fielding, trying for a spectacular play would give them an effective fielding rating on that play of 75.

                            Thinking of Shortstops as an example, there are numerous types (some examples below):
                            • The ones that don't belong there; know they don't and don't do anything stupid.
                            • The ones that have limited raw ability but can generally make the routine play IF they get to the ball (someone like Jeter). They don't try to go overboard on making a big play.
                            • The ones that have high natural ability, but tend to try too often for the "big play" but fail more often (most commonly seen in younger players)...Rey Ordonez comes to mind. Shawon Dunston used to get himself in trouble back in the day by showing off his elite arm.
                            • The elite guys that have the ability and successfully execute Sportscenter type plays routinely (the Ozzie Smith types).

                            As long as they don't incorporate unrealistic antics and incorporate it properly; this could really add some variety to the game.
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                            • coolguyf10
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                              • Mar 2014
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                              #44
                              I like the idea of flashier plays from infielders. This game does lack a lot of animations, especially in the fielding dept. As for that Posey head scan, I would think the PS4 is capable of more than that. He looks pretty "fake."

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                              • coolguyf10
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                                #45
                                Originally posted by coolguyf10
                                I like the idea of flashier plays from infielders. This game does lack a lot of animations, especially in the fielding dept. As for that Posey head scan, I would think the PS4 is capable of more than that. He looks pretty "fake."
                                The more I look at it, it just seems to lack depth, and real-life structure. Zero blemishes, like a 5 year old. Hopefully they fixed the eyes for the PS4 version. They have always looked like paper. The eyes need to reflect more and look glassier. ( I think that's a word)

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