MLB 14 The Show PS4 Hands-On Preview (SI Extra Mustard)

[Blzer]

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My gues is most people trying to nitpick and bash everything are ps3 owners who don't have or cannot afford a ps4, trying to convince themselves they are not missing out.

I can somewhat attest to this notion, not for this particular example but for past situations. When World Series Baseball 2K3 came out, I was pissing about the PS2 version not having self-shadowing or 60 FPS while the Xbox version did, etc. When I got an Xbox for sports games the following year, I was ultimately not at all concerned about what the PS2 version got, and I said: "Screw that one, just bring on the goods for the Xbox version!"

Now in this example, you bring up one valid point: I don't own a PS4. I keep debating when I should get one. I could walk into Best Buy right now and buy one, but I just do not see the advantages of owning one at this point. I have yet to beat GTA V, The Last of Us, I haven't even taken GT6 or R&C: Into the Nexus out of their shrink-wrap, and with us being able to take our PS3/Vita franchises of The Show into the PS4 version, I would rather just wait until both versions get more separate from one another.

As I said before, some screenshots really impress me with the amount of visual detail and fidelity that there is on screen. I know what this game can look like in screenshots and YouTube videos on the PS3, and how justice just is not served for it until you actually play it at home, so I really do know what it will be like for some of you to play the PS4 version for the first time (and yeesh, with a DarbeeVision Darblet it just must be jaw-droppingly gorgeous!).

I don't doubt what any reviewers or impressionists say about the visuals. This game is also certainly not just a port. However, there is just enough that keeps it close to the PS3 version that has not changed that can keep me waiting. Things like the grass and dirt (and I know we have blades of grass, but there are other irks I have about it), the same broadcast fielding camera, the same skeletal body, still no transition delay after contact, some night skies that I've just been praying to get right since MLB '09... there are just little things that I've always wanted to see adjust in this franchise, and until they do no amount of power on the PS4 will make me budge just because it has more detail everywhere.

If I owned a PS4, I would be getting this game at midnight. However, if I owned a PS4, I would still be saying the same things. I'm not trying to defend my PS3 or anything like that. I haven't played my PS3 since January. Too much going on in my life to really care, I guess. Rest assured though, I'll probably be getting a PS4 by the end of this year. The next target times are my birthday (June), Black Friday, or Christmas. There will be a lot of factors to determine when it is I'll actually get it though. I know what I'm missing out on, but I also know what I'm holding out on too. I wouldn't label myself as someone who is playing a jealousy card though. That's not my game here at all.

Oh and again, I really am curious as to if that headlining photo is from the PS3 version or PS4 version, no sarcasm. Can anybody clue me into what to look for to be able to distinguish one from the other in that shot? I know the resolution is just too small to be able to tell and a larger resolution would probably give it away, but that aside... does anyone know for sure which version it is and why? (I'm guessing the flags are different in the two versions)

[seanjeezy]

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Day 1 PS4 owner and I still have complaints...

[eoebucco23]

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I just hope pitchers get hurt more when balls hit them in the face or leg. The same with batters too. If a batter takes a ball to the head they probably wouldn't just casually walk to first lol

[Dude731]

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Complaints are fine I suppose, I was pointing out the overwhelming negativity. People accusing devs of lying and articles that say anything good about the game must be hype. It's just gotten weirdly negative this year and I don't remember it being this way any other year on here. That's all.

[thaSLAB]

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Complaints are fine I suppose, I was pointing out the overwhelming negativity. People accusing devs of lying and articles that say anything good about the game must be hype. It's just gotten weirdly negative this year and I don't remember it being this way any other year on here. That's all.

It's just the nature of the beast. This is the first year where it is the only game out there. Look at NBA 2K. Reading their forum you would think that was the worst game ever!

Visual and animation concerns about the game that was arguably best in those areas are kind of funny. Especially when it's already been stated that the next gen version will animate and transition smoother, with unique and yes, some carryover animations.

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[EUBlink]

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People are going to whine and moan and groan over little things. I get that.

What grinds my gears is the fact that these people have yet to play it or see it extensively in action, yet still complain about little things. Some people are never, ever happy. They're going to complain. And I'm going to utilize the ignore feature. That simple.

Don't crap on everyone else's party just because you enjoy that kind of bandwagon. Play the game THEN complain. They've got time to fix the online.

[HustlinOwl]

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Ps4 owner day one and pay to play online a sony studio better deliver

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[ShowTyme15]

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It's just the nature of the beast. This is the first year where it is the only game out there. Look at NBA 2K. Reading their forum you would think that was the worst game ever!

Visual and animation concerns about the game that was arguably best in those areas are kind of funny. Especially when it's already been stated that the next gen version will animate and transition smoother, with unique and yes, some carryover animations.

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I'd say it is the worst game ever made in terms of how they implemented features and modes. NEVER again will I buy a game that is DRM driven. That's a story for another time/day.

[BizDevConglomerate]

I have a PS4 and 2K, what's supposedly wrong with it? I don't play online and I hadn't bought 2K since '11, so if stuff was taken out I never noticed.

However, I have bought The Show every year since '08 and spent hundreds of hours in the editor so that's why most of my complaints are player model related

Exactly. This isn't as good as it can be. They cut corners too.

[Drew127]

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Complaints are fine I suppose, I was pointing out the overwhelming negativity. People accusing devs of lying and articles that say anything good about the game must be hype. It's just gotten weirdly negative this year and I don't remember it being this way any other year on here. That's all.

I think you are referring to my post. Fine. I was simply pointing out that over and over, the claim is being made that there are 1,000 unique fan models in the game. It has been confirmed on this board that it isn't the case for this year. Therefore, claiming otherwise is blatantly misleading. It might not be significant in the grand scheme of things, but you are missing my point entirely if that's what your focus is on. I just have an issue with saying misleading things about a product, when there is no need to.

I don't really see a gray area here. The fact was mis-stated and I take issue with it.

[Blzer]

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I think you are referring to my post. Fine. I was simply pointing out that over and over, the claim is being made that there are 1,000 unique fan models in the game. It has been confirmed on this board that it isn't the case for this year. Therefore, claiming otherwise is blatantly misleading. It might not be significant in the grand scheme of things, but you are missing my point entirely if that's what your focus is on. I just have an issue with saying misleading things about a product, when there is no need to.

I don't really see a gray area here. The fact was mis-stated and I take issue with it.

I've tried to remain spoiler-free within articles and interviews, so besides the very first interview (which I haven't seen in a month), I haven't picked up on the wording on how it's being advertised from SCEA or media outlets.

However, you're kind of right. If it sounds like it's being advertised that there are 1,000 character models for fans and there are only 100, then it is kind of strange that isn't better clarified. The developers here are clarifying that it's merely possible to get 1,000, correct? I mean wouldn't that kind of be like saying it's possible to have cross-platform online play between PS3 and PS4 even if it's not available this year, but then every interview reports that feature like it is in this year?

Maybe I will have to read some portions of the interviews that say what they say, including this one. It seems like a strange thing to "lie" about (I'm not saying they're lying at all, I'm just saying that of all things for there to be a strong emphasis on anyway, it's just a bizarre one in general), so even if they were caught with their pants down, there's not really going to be any backlash for fan models. Personally, I can't wait to see the day of that many... but I've seen worse misleading statements from game developers, even from this company.

And this is besides that topic, but I must ask one more time because I still am truly curious: is that Yankee Stadium shot in the OP a PS3 or PS4 shot, and how can you tell? I seriously have no idea one way or the other.

[Drew127]

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If it sounds like it's being advertised that there are 1,000 character models for fans and there are only 100, then it is kind of strange that isn't better clarified. The developers here are clarifying that it's merely possible to get 1,000, correct? I mean wouldn't that kind of be like saying it's possible to have cross-platform online play between PS3 and PS4 even if it's not available this year, but then every interview reports that feature like it is in this year?

Maybe I will have to read some portions of the interviews that say what they say, including this one.

EXACTLY!!! This is a quote pulled straight from the article that this thread is the subject of:

In the PS3 game, we only have 42 people in the crowd, and those people are just duplicated all over the stadium,” explains Ramone Russell, the game’s producer, as we get our hands on The Show for the first time. “You’ll see the same fans over and over again and they’re always wearing the same clothing. In the PS4 version, we have 1,000 people, so there is just so much more variation, including kids in the stands for the first time. It’s crazy, our fans in the PS4 game are made of about the same amount of polygons as the players in the PS3 version.

It's very misleading, since that certainly isn't the case this year. It will be in the future, perhaps, since the capability is there. But it isn't there now, so it's wrong to word things in a way that will make readers think it IS there now. And it has been stated like this in every media outlet that I've seen so far. Ramone did clarify it on the board here, but it's misleading to the masses who don't come here.

It might seem like I'm harping on a small detail, but keep in mind that media outlets find this detail worth highlighting as a selling point of the PS4 version of the game. Otherwise, they wouldn't mention it.

I'm still buying the game, and in no way am I claiming that someone should change their mind just based on this fact alone. I just think it's slightly frustrating that it isn't being clarified.

[ryanmc564]

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Obviously, I can't speak for everyone else but I don't ever recall SCEA (Ramone) saying they will have 1000 different crowd models. I always heard him say that with the power of the ps4 they can have UP to 1000 different crowd models

[Woodweaver]

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EXACTLY!!! This is a quote pulled straight from the article that this thread is the subject of:



It's very misleading, since that certainly isn't the case this year. It will be in the future, perhaps, since the capability is there. But it isn't there now, so it's wrong to word things in a way that will make readers think it IS there now. And it has been stated like this in every media outlet that I've seen so far. Ramone did clarify it on the board here, but it's misleading to the masses who don't come here.

It might seem like I'm harping on a small detail, but keep in mind that media outlets find this detail worth highlighting as a selling point of the PS4 version of the game. Otherwise, they wouldn't mention it.

Do a search on posts by Ramone and myself regarding this matter. There is a very clear explanation of what went on with the crowd models. There was no intentional misleading. Luckily, if this is a large issue for you, you know far enough in advance that you can simply skip this years iteration. But I think most of the media speaks for itself...even though we did not max out on the crowd this year, we certainly have many more than 100 models, and I think you will really enjoy the results.

[thaSLAB]

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You know someone is going to load up the game and count the exact number of crowd models. Try to establish a pattern, and start a thread about it. OS has the largest collection of OCPD'ers around, lol.

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It's okay, I'm OCD myself :-D

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