Lack of Urgency From Outfielders?

[Sco291]

(PS4): I feel like fielders, especially outfielders are not moving fast enough when going after a ball. It has nothing to do with sliders, already tried that. I had a ball hit to me in left center that went to the wall, and my OF's get the ball and double clutch, then take what seems like FOREVER to get the ball back to the cut-off or infield.

It just feels to me (and looks) like players are not moving quickly enough to attack a base hit, MAINLY when a ball splits the outfield and goes to the wall. All I'm saying is that it seems like

1.) Outfielders (specifically) are still getting sucked into the wall for too long

and

2.) There is no urgency in getting the ball back to the cut-off guy.


Anyone else know or understand what I'm talking about here? Incredible game otherwise. Just simply amazing.

[Skyboxer]

Re: Lack of Urgency From Outfielders?

Are you pre=loading the throws back in?

[Hayman19]

Re: Lack of Urgency From Outfielders?

I agree. A ball will split the defenders, I will run to it and preload the through just before I get there and I dont know if it is the animations or what, but it takes a good 2-3 seconds from picking up the ball to releasing it. Definitely feels a bit slow to me and that is even when using someone with a good arm and good fielding stats.

[Skyboxer]

Re: Lack of Urgency From Outfielders?

Thankfully I haven't seen that issue yet.

[Russell_SCEA]

Re: Lack of Urgency From Outfielders?

I agree. A ball will split the defenders, I will run to it and preload the through just before I get there and I dont know if it is the animations or what, but it takes a good 2-3 seconds from picking up the ball to releasing it. Definitely feels a bit slow to me and that is even when using someone with a good arm and good fielding stats.

For the fastest and best animations you need to preloaded your throw immediately after the ball is in play. Every second(s) you wait makes the fielder miss branch points and better animations.

[Clarke99]

Re: Lack of Urgency From Outfielders?

The fielding is more realistic I think personally... this series seems to have gotten it right with the PS4 version.

[Bobhead]

Re: Lack of Urgency From Outfielders?

Are you using Button Accuracy? If you are generally taking a long time to press the button a second time for accuracy (aka do the meter thingy), that would cause a delay in your throws, and basically make them not preloaded.

I had this problem last year... even though the mechanic has changed (I think it even had a different name last year? Don't remember)... it's probably the same thing going on. It seems like the game doesn't recognize a preloaded throw until you've pressed the button a second time, in correspondence to the accuracy meter.

tl;dr the longer you're taking with that button accuracy meter stuff, the longer it will take to throw the ball.

Edit: Oh, and for what it's worth, I haven't noticed and urgency problems myself... I am not using "accuracy" throwing, though.

[Sco291]

Re: Lack of Urgency From Outfielders?

For the fastest and best animations you need to preloaded your throw immediately after the ball is in play. Every second(s) you wait makes the fielder miss branch points and better animations.

Thanks a lot, Ramone. I will definitely give that a try! I guessed that just never crossed my mind because I only use the Button throwing, no throw meter (which im not sure would make all the difference in the world?). Thanks again!

[Madden's Jowels]

Re: Lack of Urgency From Outfielders?

For the fastest and best animations you need to preloaded your throw immediately after the ball is in play. Every second(s) you wait makes the fielder miss branch points and better animations.

I've found that when I pre-load a throw very early on, after the ball is put into play but before it's reasonably close, the pre-load will disappear by the time I get to the ball. I'll field the ball, wait for the animation to play out... and the fielder just stands there. So I have to then re-input my throw and by then the guy is rounding 2nd base.

[Benz87]

Re: Lack of Urgency From Outfielders?

Absolutely agree with this, and not just from my and the CPU outfielders but also infielders. I've had several occurrences where I will hit a ground ball to the CPU SS, when he fields the ball he will pat his mit with the ball a couple times and take an extended crow hop causing the throw to be late and the runner at first will be safe.

I'm also disappointing with the CPU AI in general. A perk that has been consistently mentioned with upgrading to a next gen console was the ability by game developers to have immensely improved CPU intelligence. At least with The Show's port, it seems the AI has taken a step down. If I dive for a ball in the outfield and miss, my neighboring outfielder will stop and stare at the ball rolling to the wall instead of pursuing it or better yet performing a baseball fundamental and backing up my original fielder. I've also encountered the CPU bringing in a LHP to face my 3 and 4 right handed power hitters. These are flaws I haven't noticed in previous versions of The Show, and are definitely baseball fundamentals that should be correct.

[Grub]

Re: Lack of Urgency From Outfielders?

For the fastest and best animations you need to preloaded your throw immediately after the ball is in play. Every second(s) you wait makes the fielder miss branch points and better animations.

Is this a tool tip in-game? If not, it should be!

[Russell_SCEA]

Re: Lack of Urgency From Outfielders?

Is this a tool tip in-game? If not, it should be!

MLB® 10 The Show™ - Fielding Throw Meter: http://youtu.be/wmAqLnhzbQ8

MLB 11 The Show Pure Analog Throwing Tutorial: http://youtu.be/LXTtVjCkaqc

[TheFlamingWeazel]

Re: Lack of Urgency From Outfielders?

(PS4): I feel like fielders, especially outfielders are not moving fast enough when going after a ball. It has nothing to do with sliders, already tried that. I had a ball hit to me in left center that went to the wall, and my OF's get the ball and double clutch, then take what seems like FOREVER to get the ball back to the cut-off or infield.

It just feels to me (and looks) like players are not moving quickly enough to attack a base hit, MAINLY when a ball splits the outfield and goes to the wall. All I'm saying is that it seems like

1.) Outfielders (specifically) are still getting sucked into the wall for too long

and

2.) There is no urgency in getting the ball back to the cut-off guy.


Anyone else know or understand what I'm talking about here? Incredible game otherwise. Just simply amazing.

Odd because most everyone else says outfielders are too fast and need to be toned down.

After saying that, fielding is the biggest weakness of the show it needs to be redone, players at times are slow to react or get stuck in an animation, leading to a hit or double that should not have been.

[kehlis]

Re: Lack of Urgency From Outfielders?

I've seen it a lot, thanks for the tip Ramone, I'll give that a shot.

[MrOldboy]

Re: Lack of Urgency From Outfielders?

My problem do far, at least online, has been the old run outfielder to spot, but he just runs past it or watches it go by instead of triggering the correct animation. Has happened about 5 times online now and results in a 2B or 3B every time. Very frustrating. I feel like this occasionally showed up in past games, but this year I've seen it much more often.