Why Is There No Slow Play Mode?

[@legendm0de]

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I honestly don't understand how you don't understand this either, so I'm equally misunderstanding of your viewpoint as you are of mine.. In order to play the game, it requires a thinking process, it's not a see ball - swing for everyone. It requires you to process some idea of what you want to do, or need to accomplish for the game situation (ie sacrifice, aim opposite field, steal base, look offspeed, etc), and you are clearly not able to do that. Im not even remotely able to decide if I want to steal base or NOT with this kind of gameplay. There is a long list of issues that comes as a product of this situation.

The aesthetics of the game that I'd like for a slow play mode are a separate issue entirely but to the negative way it makes the game play.. That would be the equivalent of if madden gave you a 10 second play clock or in a NBA game if you only had 10 seconds to run your offense. You really wouldn't appreciate that, I don't think, especially if you grind a full season and earned a trip to the championship rounds and these "rules" are forced you. Which is the case we have now, this mode of play is actually forced on your gameplay, and there's no option but to deal with it at this point unless there is help from SCEA.

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negatively affect how the game actually plays?

[Troopershorty51]

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I honestly don't understand how you don't understand this either, so I'm equally misunderstanding of your viewpoint as you are of mine.. In order to play the game, it requires a thinking process, it's not a see ball - swing for everyone. It requires you to process some idea of what you want to do, or need to accomplish for the game situation (ie sacrifice, aim opposite field, steal base, look offspeed, etc), and you are clearly not able to do that. Im not even remotely able to decide if I want to steal base or NOT with this kind of gameplay. There is a long list of issues that comes as a product of this situation.

The aesthetics of the game that I'd like for a slow play mode are a separate issue entirely but to the negative way it makes the game play.. That would be the equivalent of if madden gave you a 10 second play clock or in a NBA game if you only had 10 seconds to run your offense. You really wouldn't appreciate that, I don't think, especially if you grind a full season and earned a trip to the championship rounds and these "rules" are forced you. Which is the case we have now, this mode of play is actually forced on your gameplay, and there's no option but to deal with it at this point unless there is help from SCEA.

I completely disagree. I play with the fastest presentation available and I've never thought "wow I really need more time here so I can press L2 to steal or so I can contemplate where I'm going to hit it." It's not like it takes 10 seconds to realize if you should steal or not or to know that you should be swinging late to drive the ball the other way.

Again, if you were arguing for purely presentation sake, I agree there should be a slower mode. But arguing on the grounds of it negatively affecting gameplay is just a little ridiculous to me.

negatively affect how the game actually plays?

Can someone ban this account? It just takes a sentence someone wrote, double posts, and adds a smiley at the end.

[@legendm0de]

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I completely disagree. I play with the fastest presentation available and I've never thought "wow I really need more time here so I can press L2 to steal or so I can contemplate where I'm going to hit it." It's not like it takes 10 seconds to realize if you should steal or not or to know that you should be swinging late to drive the ball the other way.

Again, if you were arguing for purely presentation sake, I agree there should be a slower mode. But arguing on the grounds of it negatively affecting gameplay is just a little ridiculous to me.


Can someone ban this account? It just takes a sentence someone wrote, double posts, and adds a smiley at the end.

Have you never seen a batter regroup during an at bat? Your assumption that there is no need to take a breather during an at bat, after you foul off a 2 strike breaking ball off the plate or an unexpected fastball in the zone, just for example, is more ridiculous than my opinion.

Just from a batting perspective alone, there is a need to regroup after most pitches, just to collect your thoughts at least. Now if I'm playing on "All Star" mode or something with button batting on, then of course there is no need, that can be done all day long. But that's not why I bought the game. I actually buy games to be challenged.

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Never mind your duties as manager, such as if I want to put the runner in motion or NOT, steal 3rd base or NOT, or decide what kind of lead to take to distract the pitcher, or even freaking just look at what inning it is, or how many outs, or warming up a pitcher w/o pausing the whole game just to think

As I said, I can "deal" with it all as it is, I did just fine, in my video above for example making it through a whole nine inning game which I thoroughly enjoyed. My post here, is just focused on this element "gameplay", whether you think it's gameplay or not, that is missing because it was taken out, sacrificed for only reasons SCEA SD knows.

[HechticSooner]

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This is the first major screw up that Ramone and company have made. I get it that you want to draw in casual baseball fan (as if those exist) or more likely sports gamers that don't understand the nuance of the slow methodical strategic and tactical nature of baseball. But don't take these things away from the true fans of the sport. This is something that will make me move from a day 1 purchaser to someone that doesn't even buy the game and I hope the team reads this because I know I'm not the only one to feel thus way, I'm just the one that's the most vocal about it!

[bwiggy33]

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I completely disagree. I play with the fastest presentation available and I've never thought "wow I really need more time here so I can press L2 to steal or so I can contemplate where I'm going to hit it." It's not like it takes 10 seconds to realize if you should steal or not or to know that you should be swinging late to drive the ball the other way.

Again, if you were arguing for purely presentation sake, I agree there should be a slower mode. But arguing on the grounds of it negatively affecting gameplay is just a little ridiculous to me.

Maybe for you that's fine. However for some of us we like the extra time in between pitches. Look at his video. He fouls a ball off and the game snaps right back to the pitcher on the mound. That means he has 3 seconds or so to be ready for the next pitch. Think about a real hitter in baseball and the strategy they have. They go through the process of thinking what pitch is coming next, where will the pitcher most likely locate it, and what's my situation. For us users who are so used to having slow speed, normal speed makes everything feel rushed. Baseball isn't a fast game and that's part of the beauty of it. This has nothing to do with not having time to press buttons, it's all about the thinking side of the game. If you don't agree with our thinking that's fine, but there's no right or wrong in this matter as it's about personal preference and about a feature that was in the game the past however many years. Does anyone know if slow play is still in the PS3 version?

[@legendm0de]

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Im very excited to go forward starting a franchise, so I will do my best acting job and act as is if this is not an issue whatsoever so I can play. There are some very well made points here, we can only hope this is patched first and soon.

[torpidbeaver]

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Hey guys, I tried asking Ramone and the gang in their Twitch stream. They didn't really understand what I was asking about - they said they pulled the "Pitch Delay" option because no one used it.

[Steven78]

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But they still have normal and fast don't they?

[@legendm0de]

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Hey guys, I tried asking Ramone and the gang in their Twitch stream. They didn't really understand what I was asking about - they said they pulled the "Pitch Delay" option because no one used it.

Lol are u serious

I could see them saying something like that, that is just insane. Youtube uploaders and twitch streamers might never use it, but that doesn't represent everyone that plays the game.

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More often than not I think they poorly represent people who play this game . But to a larger point how do they exactly determine that it is not being used and not important enough, so it should be scrapped

This issue is honestly insane, I'm trying not to badger the forum with negative criticism that I have based on this issue. But simply put, the flow of this game is Absolutely Violated because of this issue, and that means ALOT to me and enough other players for us not to all be stiff armed with our concerns on this issue.

It is not understated what was written above by HecticSooner, this is an issue that will absolutely halt any further purchases, for me, until it is resolved. Why? I'll repeat it, what is the point of new presentations, stat tracking, commentary, reconfigured "cathedrals" of ballparks, 1000 unique fan models, ball and bat boys, and Much more, if every game is supposed to be done in 30-45 minutes, just all restricted to gameplay. That notion is remarkably crazy.

At the least, I certainly did not expect it to be taken away. As I mentioned in first post, I honestly expected SLOW gameplay to be a huge part of next gen MLB The Show, so much that I didn't even think about raising a question about it.

Observe how all other sports next gen games, have gone out of their way to showcase the feel they capture of their respective game as much as they can. If you have played FIFA 14, it's one of their most notable changes in next gen, the new crowds and overall pace of play that is on offer. NHL 15 is touting their new NBC authentic broadcasts for games, I'm sure aimed to soak in the action like never before. NBA 2k14 by the looks of it, has always held deep presentations and offered a methodical pace of play even since the PS3 days, even having legitimate halftime shows in the middle of games. The pace of baseball, there is nearly nothing more important but MLB 14 The Show yet has gone out of its way to trim as much as they can get away with. I can beat this issue to death, but I just will never get it. If a player doesn't like the pace they can simply hit x and they have always had all the tools they need to whatever changes they want.

[Heroesandvillains]

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Pitch Delay and these abruptly ending cutscenes are not the same thing. Based on Ramone's response it sounds to me like the question wasn't directly answered because they were talking about two different things.

Again, when I was at CD for 13, this fluidity was a definite concern of their's. I know this because I specifically pointed out batter walkup scenes that were cutting off too quickly. And while I was there they used their resources to fix most of them.

Now I cannot say if this was an intentional design decision or not. I did not go to CD in November. All I can say is let's give them the benefit of the doubt until they directly respond to this specific area of the game. As of now they have not.

[The_Balm]

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Lol are u serious

I could see them saying something like that, that is just insane. Youtube uploaders and twitch streamers might never use it, but that doesn't represent everyone that plays the game.

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More often than not I think they poorly represent people who play this game

While I'm all for options... You make it sound like they're looking in the wrong place and tons of people use the feature. They're not going to get their data from watching YouTube and Twitch videos, they're going to use their own built-in analytics for the game. When they say it really wasn't used, I believe them.

[Heroesandvillains]

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Guys you're talking about a feature that has almost nothing to do with this thread. Read my last post.

Pitch Delay only impacted how long the pitcher took to throw the next pitch. It was hardly cosmetic and more an option given to allow human hitters time to think.

Cutscenes not playing out completly before transitioning back to gameplay is a totally different animal. Let's not argue over something as insignificant as Pitch Delay. The difference between Normal and Slow was barely noticable.

[cardinalbird5]

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This thread confuses and I've never heard of anyone complaining about this. Although I do see your point OP, I don't really think it is a big deal and I don't see how it affects gameplay unless you allow it too. You can step off the mound or call timeout as much as needed, plus you can press pause or do mound visits. I don't understand how the cut scenes in between innings or foul balls affect your ability to think.

If you were just complaining about the presentation then I would only agree with you, but to me you are pushing it when you say it affects the gameplay.

Are you performing worst this year? What is your record so far compared to last?