Not Supposed to Guess Every Pitch?

[Mitchrapp]

Re: Not Supposed to Guess Every Pitch?

As long as I'm hitting better and getting more walks with it on than off I'll continue to use it..bottom line is results and I'm getting results. Do I swing at every pitch I guess wrong of course not but it sure does help..

Bottom line, I'm having fun and that's what's important.

[THE POLISH HAMMER]

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I disagree with those saying that GP is a crutch. I use it the way hitters do in real life. If I worked the count in my favor why would I not sit on a certain pitch in a certain location? If it's not there, then take it. If it is, swing for the fences. Also, if a pitcher is pounding a certain part of the strike zone repeatedly, lock in on that spot like a hitter would. You could always turn off visual cues but GP is definitely not a crutch if used right. If used incorrectly, it's more debilitating than anything.

You can still do that without Guess Pitch...

[birthday_massacre]

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I tend to guess the pitch almost every time, and I'm reading threads saying people should lay off of doing that... How come?

Is there a drawback to guessing a pitching and not getting it right? Obviously, in real life there is, but if I guess and know thats not the pitching coming, I feel like I'm still in good shape most of the time.

Just kind of confused why people say you shouldn't GP very often. I'm addicted to it and am doing just fine in my RTTS and franchise.

Thanks!

You should only guess a pitch IMO when you know what is coming like on hitters counts.

You can do it, but the percent that you get it right goes up on hitters counts.

[Hender3]

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I've been playing the show since '06 and i have always used guess pitch.. I'm turning it off now.

[ZachS]

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I'll slowly begin to ween myself off of it so I can become a better hitter.

This is my first Show game, because I'm new to ps4.

I tend to guess fastball high or low, and when I guess right, I crush it. Its become a crutch like some people have said, but I want to become a better hitter as well.

Thanks!!

[Bobhead]

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I'm of the belief that you should only use Guess Pitch when you are ahead in the count.

I basically use it in the same ways I use Power Swing.
On 2-0 counts...
in the 9th inning when I really need a HR

stuff like that.

I'd strongly advocate against using it on every single pitch.

It's really a matter of philosophy/preference, though.

[COMMISSIONERHBK9]

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what i do is use guess pitch and location. and i guess the location of my player hot zone. then for the pitch i just always go with their number 1 pitch. for those that use guess pitch how do you know what pitch to guess?

[cardinalbird5]

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I only suggest no feedback. That is the only semi-realistic GP.

I used it back in 09, but took it off and started having more fun.

It's the same back in MVP with the hitter's eye. It made the game too easy. Once I took it off it became challenging and I actually had to think at the plate and develop strategies and approaches. I worked on going to opposite field a lot.

I became way better once I took it off too.

If you find it too difficult to take it off then

A)Put the difficulty down

B)Put the pitch speed down and work on pitch recognition

C)Increase your hitting sliders a bit

You'll never get better using GP nor will you get that authentic sim experience.

[sgfhzhen]

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I guess if you like it, there's nothing wrong with it,

[sgfhzhen]

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I guess if you like it, there's nothing wrong with it,

[MasonTK]

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I think the reason people swing at everything and rely on GP is because they don't "see" the zone correctly. A friend of mine had this issue and could never take pitches without the GP feature. I tried to explain what I do (I take plenty of walks with no GP, 10 pitch speed, and no K zone), and it just wasn't registering with him. Finally, he started taking pitches, and it must have just clicked. It reminded me of when people couldn't see those magic eye pictures, then suddenly the battleship came into focus.

I'll try to explain, but it's not as clear as I'm about to describe. Most guys look at the screen and strike zone as a whole. This seems like the right way, but it isn't. You get fooled by breaking balls, and judging distance from center is skewed.

Stare at the part of the zone you think the ball is going to wind up. Start small. Just an exact inch of the zone. If the ball enters that area, take a rip. If not, don't. Because of this focus on one spot, your "peripheral" vision will eventually narrow down to the strike zone, rather than outside of your TV screen. At this point you can start judging distance from your focus point.

There are times, just like in real life, when I'm in the zone and can judge breaking pitches and distance from where I'm looking so well that I can literally take almost all balls, and make solid contact on all strikes (unless Chappy is throwing...yikes). Other times, I just can't get locked in and start flailing. When this happens, I have to walk away from the game or do something else for my eyes to relax.

Once you start seeing hitting this way, it will really start to feel like real life. "Getting hot" won't be a symbol next to your name, it will be a real thing in your eyes. Guessing pitches will just be changing your focus point and timing.

And yes, guess pitch is a crutch for developing this style of play.

[dvazquez190]

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I use the same. Zone+Timing. Honestly my approach is to try not to move the indicator as much as possible. I try and hit mistakes. On HOF you get about 1 mistake every AB if you are patient. That is the pitch I try to turn on while either laying off or fouling off other pitches depending on the count. This has worked for me. I only move the PCI if the pitcher has shown a tendency to pitch to a certain zone.

For those who don't use GP, what is your batting configuration?

I use zone+timing, with the PCI indicator. How do you move the PCI around in the zone so well? It seems like if I see a pitch low in the dirt, I move the stick down, but the PCI will then go all the way to the bottom of the zone, even out of the zone.

It seems impossible to me that someone could only minutely move the stick fractions and not push the stick all the way down.

[dvazquez190]

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GP is a crutch. Hitters don't use GP in real life, they guess the pitch and adjust their timing based on their guess. If they guess fastball then they will speed up their bat and if they recognize FB out of the pitchers hand then they will put a good swing on it. If the pitcher throws a Change or Split and the hitter doesn't recognize it they look foolish. Happens all the time. Problem with GP is if you guess FB and the pitcher only has 1 FB then if the indicator doesn't light up you know it isn't a FB. It isn't baseball, just a way to help people who have issues with their pitch recognition.

In previous games I could guess a location and pitch, wait for a perfect pitch, if it never came and I had to swing I could adjust knowing it wasn't going to be there. I've had RTTS back in '10 and '11 where I was hitting clear over .500 on HOF just because of GP. With high enough attributes you can overcome the loss in contact rating.

I disagree with those saying that GP is a crutch. I use it the way hitters do in real life. If I worked the count in my favor why would I not sit on a certain pitch in a certain location? If it's not there, then take it. If it is, swing for the fences. Also, if a pitcher is pounding a certain part of the strike zone repeatedly, lock in on that spot like a hitter would. You could always turn off visual cues but GP is definitely not a crutch if used right. If used incorrectly, it's more debilitating than anything.

[woody2goody]

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I know it's not strictly relating to guess pitch, but I'm a much better hitter since I turned the strike zone off last year.

For some reason the box was distracting me and I was swinging at all sorts of rubbish.

Now I barely ever strike out looking - although I am vulnerable to swinging at balls in the dirt.

This is the best way to play for me - no guess pitch and no strike zone. It's harder with no zone at first because every batter's zone changes, but my results are better after a year of not using it

Never used guess pitch but that's because I never understood it very well :P

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[chitown1-23]

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I was 2nd to last in offense using guess pitch, for the 3 games I have stopped using it I have scored 24 runs scoring 9 runs in back to back games. Its a small sample size but that's better than my 3 runs a game crap.