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  • TheFlamingWeazel
    Banned
    • Jan 2014
    • 407

    #46
    Re: I thought the trade logic was fixed?

    Originally posted by birthday_massacre
    They have Jackey Bradley Jr. It still stands out the sox traded their best pitcher for a prospect, thought that wasn't going to happen anymore.

    I guess not.
    WTF do you even follow baseball? Teams trade their best players when they still have value all the time for top prospects.....happens every year, and you dont want it to happen? ROFL.

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    • TheFlamingWeazel
      Banned
      • Jan 2014
      • 407

      #47
      Re: I thought the trade logic was fixed?

      If you guys are expecting 100% realistic trade logic ina video game, you will be waiting for eternity, this is incredibly hard to replicate in a game, seriously it's a game.

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      • Jr.
        Playgirl Coverboy
        • Feb 2003
        • 19171

        #48
        Re: I thought the trade logic was fixed?

        Originally posted by CuseGirl
        All I know is 6 years into a Franchise, no team in the league (other than me, who stays way under budget) has enough budget space to do anything. And virtually all of my trades are rejected, nothing ever "fits our strategy". Even when the ratings are comparable. Then the CPU turns around and asks me for my 86 rated RP in exchange for a 67 rated 29 year old?

        I understand that the trade logic will have flaws. But the budgeting is still a huge issue for the game.

        In 6 years, no one has offered me a trade deal for a player I've placed on the trade block.
        That's interesting to hear about the budget being an issue. I remember early on a lot of people were saying the budgets became so large for every team that you had teams that were usually small-market teams signing and trading for superstars they couldn't afford in real life.
        My favorite teams are better than your favorite teams

        Watch me play video games

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        • tabarnes19_SDS
          Game Designer
          • Feb 2003
          • 3084

          #49
          Re: I thought the trade logic was fixed?

          Originally posted by CuseGirl
          All I know is 6 years into a Franchise, no team in the league (other than me, who stays way under budget) has enough budget space to do anything. And virtually all of my trades are rejected, nothing ever "fits our strategy". Even when the ratings are comparable. Then the CPU turns around and asks me for my 86 rated RP in exchange for a 67 rated 29 year old?

          I understand that the trade logic will have flaws. But the budgeting is still a huge issue for the game.

          In 6 years, no one has offered me a trade deal for a player I've placed on the trade block.
          What rosters are you using? I have tested with many types of rosters. I feel budgets are much better. There will be teams that spend every last dollar, but most teams have 6-25 million available.

          When are you proposing these trades. July 1st is when team strategies change. A playoff push team is looking to add and a rebuild team will dump vets.

          Many times in trading the cpu tends to want more than they are giving up. Ratings are also subjective to the position. An 87 shortstop is worth more than an 87 first baseman. contracts in the game reflect that.

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          • tabarnes19_SDS
            Game Designer
            • Feb 2003
            • 3084

            #50
            I thought the trade logic was fixed?

            I just simmed to spring training of 2020 using osfm v 2. Here is the available budget room per team.
            Bal 9.41. Chiw. 1.71. Ana 19.19
            Bos 41.71. Cle. -1.34. Oak. -11.92
            Nyy 62.36. Det. 52.94. Sea. 26.07
            Tb 1.01. Kc. 12.06. Tex. 15.26
            Tor -6.31. Min. 14.38. Hou. 9.66


            Atl -8.72. Chi. 7.08. Ari 5.21
            Mia 17.13. Cin. -1.69. Col -3.45
            Was -7.57. Mil. -11.52. Lad 97.13
            Nym 3.89. Pit. .64. Sd. 10.57
            Phi. -5.96. Stl. 11.61. Sf. 24.65

            I think big teams should spend more money, but I don't think budgets are the issue in regards to trades. I do agree RP are too heavily valued, what bothers me the most is players being traded 3-4 times a season.



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            Last edited by tabarnes19_SDS; 05-14-2014, 10:27 PM.

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            • BenGerman
              No Place Better
              • Sep 2008
              • 2752

              #51
              Re: I thought the trade logic was fixed?

              For anyone wondering if the trade logic is broken or not, the Astros just trades Scott Feldman and Matt Albers for Byron Buxton and Miguel Sano.

              The trade logic is still very much broken. Thank goodness for 30-team control.
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              • Friar Fanatic
                Rookie
                • May 2012
                • 471

                #52
                Re: I thought the trade logic was fixed?

                Is there anyway to turn on 30 team control or disable trades after the franchise is already started?

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                • allstardad
                  Banned
                  • May 2014
                  • 237

                  #53
                  Re: I thought the trade logic was fixed?

                  Joe Mauer was traded in my franchise as well.

                  Twins Get:

                  SP Jameson Taillon (Top 50 Prospect) Age: 22 Potential: A Overall: 79
                  SP Tyler Glasnow Age: 20 Potential: A Overall: 64

                  Pirates Get:

                  1B Joe Mauer

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                  • FoBs2007
                    Banned
                    • May 2014
                    • 55

                    #54
                    Re: I thought the trade logic was fixed?

                    Originally posted by Grub
                    At least I haven't seen Miguel Cabrera traded for Colby Rasmus
                    I offered Caleb Gindl for Matt Holliday. I also didn't know that it would AUTOMATICALLY be accepted if they agreed. I thought I would have the option to back out of the trade.

                    Needless to say, Holliday now starts for the Brewers.

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                    • tabarnes19_SDS
                      Game Designer
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 3084

                      #55
                      Re: I thought the trade logic was fixed?

                      Originally posted by CuseGirl
                      I'm using the rosters that came with the game, so maybe that's the problem lol

                      I didn't realize that about the Team Strategy. I'll keep better track of that. How do you check the budgets of other teams?

                      And I agree, the CPU just seems hellbent on G'ing you.
                      The default rosters should be the same if not better in regards to budgets.

                      You need 30 team control To see everyone's budget...just cycle teams and hit square.



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                      • birthday_massacre
                        Pro
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 614

                        #56
                        Re: I thought the trade logic was fixed?

                        Originally posted by N51_rob
                        To be honest, I don't know. Same for Lester. He is 30 years old making what 14 million in game in the last year of his contract. There are a lot trades that seem fishy, but it is what it is.

                        I completely get why people upset, because I am in my Oriole Franchise and 3 weeks into the season I see lots of guys (like Lester 0-3 6.56 ERA) on the trade block. That bothers me, but these CPU GMs aren't stuck having to deal with things like fan outrage, and loyalty so you will see more of these type trades, again I am not justifying them, but a video game AI isn't a GM. It is what it is, but like I mentioned earlier I turn trades off until July 15th sometimes July 10th, but then that only gives the CPU 16 days to make deals. Seems to work for me.
                        The red sox traded Lester for a prospect, I understand why they did that (went into the standings and they were indeed in last place) but then a couple weeks into the next season they trade that same top prospect for Doug Fister. How does that make sense?


                        Originally posted by TheFlamingWeazel
                        WTF do you even follow baseball? Teams trade their best players when they still have value all the time for top prospects.....happens every year, and you dont want it to happen? ROFL.
                        so why did the red sox then the next year trade him for Doug Fister?

                        Answer me that

                        They need to give us an option of deny any trades by the CPU in RTTS or franchise mode. That would fix 90% of these issues.
                        Last edited by birthday_massacre; 05-15-2014, 01:40 PM.

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                        • HozAndMoose
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 3614

                          #57
                          Re: I thought the trade logic was fixed?

                          Originally posted by birthday_massacre
                          The red sox traded Lester for a prospect, I understand why they did that (went into the standings and they were indeed in last place) but then a couple weeks into the next season they trade that same top prospect for Doug Fister. How does that make sense?




                          so why did the red sox then the next year trade him for Doug Fister?

                          Answer me that

                          They need to give us an option of deny any trades by the CPU in RTTS or franchise mode. That would fix 90% of these issues.
                          They do in franchise. Its called 30 team control.

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                          • birthday_massacre
                            Pro
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 614

                            #58
                            Re: I thought the trade logic was fixed?

                            Originally posted by HozAndMoose
                            They do in franchise. Its called 30 team control.
                            But if you do 30 team control don't you have to offer the CPU trades? Do they make them own their own?

                            And I am playing RTTS right now and that is something you can't do in that mode.

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                            • NEOPARADIGM
                              Banned
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 2788

                              #59
                              Re: I thought the trade logic was fixed?

                              Originally posted by birthday_massacre
                              so why did the red sox then the next year trade him for Doug Fister?

                              Answer me that
                              Maybe he was a bad clubhouse guy or slept with the manager's wife.

                              Gotta roleplay at least some of this stuff, dude.

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                              • PsychoBulk
                                Hoping for change...
                                • May 2006
                                • 4191

                                #60
                                Re: I thought the trade logic was fixed?

                                This thread only re-inforces my decision not to turn trades on until a month before the deadline...

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