Reliever stamina regressing on days they don't pitch

[wolfpack23]

Has anyone else noticed that relievers lose stamina even on days they don't pitch? I've been noticing that my relievers will throw during a game and the next game they have their obvious stamina regression but the next game after that their stamina regressed further. I don't mind my relievers taking longer to fully recover but I find it strange that they are losing stamina even after off days. Thoughts?

[Heroesandvillains]

Re: Reliever stamina regressing on days they don't pitch

Screenshots please.

[wolfpack23]

Re: Reliever stamina regressing on days they don't pitch

Screenshots please.

I am at work right now so I can't do it at the moment. What exactly do you want me to post though?

[Mizzou24]

Re: Reliever stamina regressing on days they don't pitch

I've noticed that my relievers take a while to recover as well even if they only throw an inning or less than an inning


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[LowerWolf]

Re: Reliever stamina regressing on days they don't pitch

They tend to lose a bit more the second day after pitching. It's been that way for a few years now.

It's not unusual for me to have a reliever pitch an inning and be nearly at full strength the next day. Then he loses a bit the day after that, whether he pitched or not.

[wolfpack23]

Re: Reliever stamina regressing on days they don't pitch

They tend to lose a bit more the second day after pitching. It's been that way for a few years now.

It's not unusual for me to have a reliever pitch an inning and be nearly at full strength the next day. Then he loses a bit the day after that, whether he pitched or not.

It's weird that I've never noticed that in past editions of game. However, if that's the way it is going to work than so be it. I just found it strange when I would have a guy throw to one batter and two days later he is more fatigued then the day after.

[LowerWolf]

Re: Reliever stamina regressing on days they don't pitch

I know it was that way on MLB 13, and I think it was the same on MLB 12.

I look at this way, if I go to the gym on Monday, it's not unusual for me to not really feel it until Wednesday. So it's not a stretch to think it would be similar for a pitcher.

[wolfpack23]

Re: Reliever stamina regressing on days they don't pitch

I know it was that way on MLB 13, and I think it was the same on MLB 12.

I look at this way, if I go to the gym on Monday, it's not unusual for me to not really feel it until Wednesday. So it's not a stretch to think it would be similar for a pitcher.

So basically my pitchers get DOMS really bad

[@legendm0de]

Re: Reliever stamina regressing on days they don't pitch

I know it was that way on MLB 13, and I think it was the same on MLB 12.

I look at this way, if I go to the gym on Monday, it's not unusual for me to not really feel it until Wednesday. So it's not a stretch to think it would be similar for a pitcher.

It couldn't have been that way on MLB 12, however I did find it really predictable and convenient to manage my bullpen in that game and I had reliever stamina there on 0.

What I'm seeing thus far with same stamina for relievers is actually more realistic than I feel that 12' was by comparison. Their arm fatigue will stay about level for 2 days, if they had to pitch a really stressful 27+ pitch outing. They can still definitely be available though just not at 100% generally. Pitchers who are in for less than 20 pitches will surely be ready to go the next day without any real hit to their energy bar.

I also started a game with a generic Angels reliever and saw him pitch into the 3rd or so inning, until he was pulled for strategical reasons. He threw about 60 pitches and still could have gotten an out. This was an exhibition just to test out how much stamina a normal relief pitcher generally has.

[wolfpack23]

Re: Reliever stamina regressing on days they don't pitch

It couldn't have been that way on MLB 12, however I did find it really predictable and convenient to manage my bullpen in that game and I had reliever stamina there on 0.

What I'm seeing thus far with same stamina for relievers is actually more realistic than I feel that 12' was by comparison. Their arm fatigue will stay about level for 2 days, if they had to pitch a really stressful 27+ pitch outing. They can still definitely be available though just not at 100% generally. Pitchers who are in for less than 20 pitches will surely be ready to go the next day without any real hit to their energy bar.

I also started a game with a generic Angels reliever and saw him pitch into the 3rd or so inning, until he was pulled for strategical reasons. He threw about 60 pitches and still could have gotten an out. This was an exhibition just to test out how much stamina a normal relief pitcher generally has.

I have definitely noticed that my bullpen arms are more ready to go the day after throwing versus two days after throwing. I guess it makes the skill level when managing your bullpen that much tougher as you have to always be thinking a couple of games out. Do players accrue fatigue when they travel?

[@legendm0de]

Re: Reliever stamina regressing on days they don't pitch

I have definitely noticed that my bullpen arms are more ready to go the day after throwing versus two days after throwing. I guess it makes the skill level when managing your bullpen that much tougher as you have to always be thinking a couple of games out. Do players accrue fatigue when they travel?

Yea, relievers that pitch one extensive inning, like near 30 pitches don't seem too much more ready to go 2 days later than they are the day after. It is all still something I'm looking at closely too, but I haven't seen anything regress, 2 days after an outing Yet. I have never parsed whether a pitchers/players recovery slows or is affected negatively by travel. I don't think so, because players with normal 100% energy don't get affected.


Relievers who pitch a normal outing, are hardly affected the next day but I think even still they're recovery is just slower in this version. I am looking into whether training has any possible ties to a pitchers energy level, but there is no indication that it is so. I would think Simulated game is the only possible mode to really regress energy level but I doubt any of that is the case.

I don't have a problem with recovery taking extensively long to get back to 100 either because to say you are 100% full of energy every couple days of a everyday season would be hard to believe honestly. I don't believe there is one player in season right now that has been 100% full of energy since January.

[wolfpack23]

Re: Reliever stamina regressing on days they don't pitch

Yea, relievers that pitch one extensive inning, like near 30 pitches don't seem too much more ready to go 2 days later than they are the day after. It is all still something I'm looking at closely too, but I haven't seen anything regress, 2 days after an outing Yet. I have never parsed whether a pitchers/players recovery slows or is affected negatively by travel. I don't think so, because players with normal 100% energy don't get affected.


Relievers who pitch a normal outing, are hardly affected the next day but I think even still they're recovery is just slower in this version. I am looking into whether training has any possible ties to a pitchers energy level, but there is no indication that it is so. I would think Simulated game is the only possible mode to really regress energy level but I doubt any of that is the case.

Yeah I'm not sure. I don't simulate games so that variable would affect me. I've just noticed that managing the bullpen is slightly different this year than in years past. This is not necessarily a bad thing though, it will just take some time to adjust and determine the recovery patterns. It is not game breaking by any means I just wanted to see what other people thought about the way bullpens recover this year.

I'm also not entirely convinced that the bullpen isn't a little buggy still since half of my players in my spring training bullpen have Chase Headley as their portrait. Because of this I wouldn't be surprised if this is addressed in a future patch.