going with the pitch?

[darkknightrises]

So I never thought about this but in the guide it talks about how a inside pitch you should swing at earler and a out side pitch latter. Does any one try to do that? How do you go about doing it? I have never really tried to go with the pitches as when hitting you don't have much time to hit and in a spelt second it is hard to pick up the pitch and try to weight a split second longer on a outside pitch and a spilt second earlier on a outside pitch. This is probly why I am not the best hitter and why I get jammed and pop up to many pitches. What is a good way to get better at this?

[ShaBoomer]

Re: going with the pitch?

So I never thought about this but in the guide it talks about how a inside pitch you should swing at earler and a out side pitch latter. Does any one try to do that? How do you go about doing it? I have never really tried to go with the pitches as when hitting you don't have much time to hit and in a spelt second it is hard to pick up the pitch and try to weight a split second longer on a outside pitch and a spilt second earlier on a outside pitch. This is probly why I am not the best hitter and why I get jammed and pop up to many pitches. What is a good way to get better at this?

I do this all the time with left handed hitters when the opposition shifts. I swing a little late so I can drive the ball down the third base line. Usually results in an easy double.

If you want to practice, check out the Bat Control Training in the Batting Practice. Just enter Practice from the Mini Modes screen and choose Batting Practice. Once you select your batter and opposing pitcher, pause and select Change Mode. Choose Bat Control and that will give you what you want. The objective is to hit the ball into the designated region.

[cardinalbird5]

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No offense but I thought this was common sense.

You just have to practice and do what works for you. I have my own little method on what I want to do given the situation and hitter I am using.

Sometimes I try to turn on the heat, sometimes I just focus on staying on the ball and trying to go up the middle and sometimes I wait back long as possible to either hit middle away fastballs or any offspeed pitches. If you can't hit to opposite field then you are doing yourself a disfavor. It allows you to see the ball longer and deeper, which gives you more time to recognize the pitch.

I have noticed when I look to turn on an inside fastball and the fastball is middle away, I can still react accordingly and be late enough to drive it to opposite field. Of course when looking for an inside fastball and you get any type of breaking ball or changeup you'll look silly, but that is just the risk you have to take.

My advice to beginners is to look for middle away pitches and learn to hit to opposite field. Try not to use a team like Toronto that only has pull hitters, because it will be even harder to use this strategy. Seattle, St. Louis, and Boston have a lot of balanced hitters so it'd work well with them.

[darkknightrises]

Re: going with the pitch?

No offense but I thought this was common sense.

You just have to practice and do what works for you. I have my own little method on what I want to do given the situation and hitter I am using.

Sometimes I try to turn on the heat, sometimes I just focus on staying on the ball and trying to go up the middle and sometimes I wait back long as possible to either hit middle away fastballs or any offspeed pitches. If you can't hit to opposite field then you are doing yourself a disfavor. It allows you to see the ball longer and deeper, which gives you more time to recognize the pitch.

I have noticed when I look to turn on an inside fastball and the fastball is middle away, I can still react accordingly and be late enough to drive it to opposite field. Of course when looking for an inside fastball and you get any type of breaking ball or changeup you'll look silly, but that is just the risk you have to take.

My advice to beginners is to look for middle away pitches and learn to hit to opposite field. Try not to use a team like Toronto that only has pull hitters, because it will be even harder to use this strategy. Seattle, St. Louis, and Boston have a lot of balanced hitters so it'd work well with them.

While yeah I guess it is common sense but I have alrease just tried to have good timing no matter where the pitch is and never really tried to swing latter on outside or earler on inside pitches and that is probly why I am not the best hitter has I normal play on allstar but with sliders to make it easyer to hit. The problem is that if I try to swing latter I then tend to swing to late or if I try to swing earlier I tend to swing to early. I may try the practice mode bat control but I don't now how much that will help has it tells you if a pitch is going to be outside or inside on that. When you play a real game and don't now if a pitch is going to be inside or outside how do you react and decide to swing latter or not at the same time? When you now were the pitch is going to be like in practice mode it is a lot easyer has you know right away to weight back on a pitch or not.

[HighCmpPct]

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For me it's not really something I decide to do it's just something that happens on certain pitches. In my experience when you start thinking at the plate you're asking for trouble.

I pretty much just see ball hit ball, I will be more patient with two strikes by sitting back for a split second longer to make sure it's a strike which results in going the way a bit more. The only time I try to pull the ball is when I'm ahead in the count 3-1 etc.. Now I will turn on pitches in other counts but it's just reacting to the pitch not because I'm trying to pull it or go the other way.

[Mitchrapp]

Re: going with the pitch?

I do this all the time with left handed hitters when the opposition shifts. I swing a little late so I can drive the ball down the third base line. Usually results in an easy double.

If you want to practice, check out the Bat Control Training in the Batting Practice. Just enter Practice from the Mini Modes screen and choose Batting Practice. Once you select your batter and opposing pitcher, pause and select Change Mode. Choose Bat Control and that will give you what you want. The objective is to hit the ball into the designated region.

IMO, as a LH hitter there's nothing better than going the opposite way.

[HighCmpPct]

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IMO, as a LH hitter there's nothing better than going the opposite way.

...cough... Yankee Stadium ...cough...

Lol

[cardinalbird5]

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While yeah I guess it is common sense but I have alrease just tried to have good timing no matter where the pitch is and never really tried to swing latter on outside or earler on inside pitches and that is probly why I am not the best hitter has I normal play on allstar but with sliders to make it easyer to hit. The problem is that if I try to swing latter I then tend to swing to late or if I try to swing earlier I tend to swing to early. I may try the practice mode bat control but I don't now how much that will help has it tells you if a pitch is going to be outside or inside on that. When you play a real game and don't now if a pitch is going to be inside or outside how do you react and decide to swing latter or not at the same time? When you now were the pitch is going to be like in practice mode it is a lot easyer has you know right away to weight back on a pitch or not.

Well good timing is dependent on pitch speed and pitch location. You can't swing the same on a 95 mph pitch outside as you do inside and get the same timing results. They'll be different.

I think I know what you are saying though.

And I just practiced enough to where my reflexes and recognition are good enough to adjust mid pitch. It isn't always perfect, but I mentioned my approaches above. Basically you can't sit on every pitch and every location. At best, you can foul off the pitch you aren't looking for until you get your pitch.

My advice is learning and getting used to seeing the ball deeper into the zone and hitting to opposite field. Yeah sometimes you'll get jammed (don't swing unless you have 2 strikes on inside fastballs), but you have to try and foul off those pitches. You can't do this the other way (look inside and react to offspeed) or you'll swing and miss.

[@legendm0de]

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...cough... Yankee Stadium ...cough...

Lol

Lol Im left handed as well though and if I had a spray chart it would be like 90% the other way. I think it is because we see the ball from an angle that is so confusing the only pitch I can really kill are those low ones that can hook off the bat.

Anyway, I was going to say to the op definitely go into the practice mode and work on seeing the ball come from the pitchers mound. Utilize practice mode until you discover a new found skillset. My other recommendation is to turn off those visual aids because they are distraction and that is why I think you have not yet focused on hitting the ball in certain directions based on where the pitch is thrown. Things like hot/cold zone and strike zone, I would recommend learning to remove those and you will see a clearer experience at the plate.

I use gameplay sliders of pitch speed 6, and often experiment with 10, (only in practice modes, as im speaking of to you) so it is not about how fast the ball is coming, it's about your ability to be comfortable in what you are doing at the plate.

[BA2929]

Re: going with the pitch?

IMO, as a LH hitter there's nothing better than going the opposite way.

Adam Dunn would disagree with you.

[HighCmpPct]

Re: going with the pitch?

Adam Dunn would disagree with you.

Lol for that matter as would David Ortiz, Ryan Howard, PrInce Fielder, Brian McCann, Chase Utley, so on and so forth lol..


But he still makes a good point for different types of hitters such as Brett Gardner, Ben Revere, and such, although the same could be said for these types of hitters from the right side.

[darkknightrises]

Re: going with the pitch?

Well good timing is dependent on pitch speed and pitch location. You can't swing the same on a 95 mph pitch outside as you do inside and get the same timing results. They'll be different.

I think I know what you are saying though.

And I just practiced enough to where my reflexes and recognition are good enough to adjust mid pitch. It isn't always perfect, but I mentioned my approaches above. Basically you can't sit on every pitch and every location. At best, you can foul off the pitch you aren't looking for until you get your pitch.




My advice is learning and getting used to seeing the ball deeper into the zone and hitting to opposite field. Yeah sometimes you'll get jammed (don't swing unless you have 2 strikes on inside fastballs), but you have to try and foul off those pitches. You can't do this the other way (look inside and react to offspeed) or you'll swing and miss.

While that is my problem is that when I get offspeed pitches expecialy change ups has they look like a fastball but are slower that I tend to swing to early and so I end up rollening over to often. On fastballs expecialy high ones I tend to be late and so then I get jammed. I get jammed way to much. Even if I am having a game with a lot of hits and runs I still end up with a lot of popups in the game.

[darkknightrises]

Re: going with the pitch?

I am just not that good at picking up what type of pitch a pitch is has they look almost the same to me lol. Change up is hard because it looks like a fastball or a little slower so I tend to be early. A curve ball a lot of times I will think is a strike and will swing and then it drops out of the strike zone. A slider looks like a fastball to me only has late movment so a lot of times on a slider I will try to swing has I think it is going to be a strike and then it movies like has soon has I swing like 3 inches lol.

[HighCmpPct]

Re: going with the pitch?

I am just not that good at picking up what type of pitch a pitch is has they look almost the same to me lol. Change up is hard because it looks like a fastball or a little slower so I tend to be early. A curve ball a lot of times I will think is a strike and will swing and then it drops out of the strike zone. A slider looks like a fastball to me only has late movment so a lot of times on a slider I will try to swing has I think it is going to be a strike and then it movies like has soon has I swing like 3 inches lol.

Man that is some of the most realistic baseball talk I've heard in this forum lol.

But honestly that's the game, the only thing that can really improve that for you is practice. We've all been exactly where you are at some point in all baseball gaming lives. Also I think a lot of us get a slow start to learning to approach at bats the correct way as I think we tend to just wanna crush everything and have ungodly numbers early on in our gaming youth and it puts you actually behind when you realize you want to play it realistically from now on lol.

Anyway the only thing that will help you is just more practice at the plate, try playing a few games where you watch a lot more pitches than you swing at, not only may this help you learn to recognize pitches faster, it also helps you lock in on the pitcher you're facing making hitting later in the have easier(usually lol). The great thing about baseball though it's even if you become a master at this what you described well still happen a good 50+% of the time lol.

Also from my personal experience I think it's even harder to judge movement in gave as opposed to real life as spin means nothing to you in gave as there's no way you can see our judge spin. However one of the first things I noticed when upgrading to the ps4 version whenitcame out was how much more pronounced pitch movement appeared.

[cardinalbird5]

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Slider and changeups are still hard to pick up.

Sometimes I will just look for those 2 pitches and I can still be late on middle away fastballs and drive them to oppo.

Curves just become natural to me to lay off. They also appear to break lower than what they actually do (at least to me), so I tend not to swing at curves unless I know they start pretty high.

It definitely isn't easy mastering this game and no one really has honestly. I just know, personally, I got really good at the game when I started seeing the ball deeper. It gives you so much more flexibility at the plate.

I also became even better when changing my hitting camera to E. Catcher Zoom. I'd recommend trying either an offset catcher camera or a zoomed in one. It makes it easier to judge balls/strikes IMO.