Timing Hitting Vs PCI

[Yankees3133]

Hello,

Ive been using timed hitting and noticed that alot of the time my hitters PCI is not where it should be when a pitch is down the middle of the plate. Would I be better off using PCI hitting and leave it centered? Frustrating to foul off so many pitches that are right down the plate on timed hitting

Any Feedback / Suggestions would be appreciated.

[Qdiddy]

Re: Timing Hitting Vs PCI

I could be wrong but I believe it's off like that because it's factoring in the players ratings to determine the level of contact, as opposed to pci hitting where you directly influence the contact, I guess in theory overriding the player rating.

I use timing myself and personnally find it much mote realistic as if you watch baseball many hitters don't make solid contact even on a pitch right down the middle, but when they do in both the game and real life it's a thing of beauty and satisfaction

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[BadKarma]

Re: Timing Hitting Vs PCI

I got frustrated with the timing hitting, and switched to the zone hitting (pci). Normally I don't bother moving the pci and just keep it centered, though if I know they will be looking for a double play ball, I will shade the pci down. I have hit much better with just zone hitting and leaving the pci in place. I actually turn off the pci, so it still feels like timed hitting.

[mkam89]

Re: Timing Hitting Vs PCI

I got frustrated with the timing hitting, and switched to the zone hitting (pci). Normally I don't bother moving the pci and just keep it centered, though if I know they will be looking for a double play ball, I will shade the pci down. I have hit much better with just zone hitting and leaving the pci in place. I actually turn off the pci, so it still feels like timed hitting.

Same thing I did. I got tired of having a large PCI on timing only to have the game place it so high in the top corner so that it covers <1/4 of the strike zone.
I went from hitting around .260 to .300 and have a lot more HRs because I can finally hit a ball in the strike zone.

[jr86]

Re: Timing Hitting Vs PCI

I got frustrated with the timing hitting, and switched to the zone hitting (pci). Normally I don't bother moving the pci and just keep it centered, though if I know they will be looking for a double play ball, I will shade the pci down. I have hit much better with just zone hitting and leaving the pci in place. I actually turn off the pci, so it still feels like timed hitting.

Same thing I did. I got tired of having a large PCI on timing only to have the game place it so high in the top corner so that it covers <1/4 of the strike zone.
I went from hitting around .260 to .300 and have a lot more HRs because I can finally hit a ball in the strike zone.

Yep, I agree. Timing imo is too erratic. Sitting on pitches in the middle of the zone with top hitters only to have weak pop ups time and time again is too much for me to take.
I just use zone and leave the pci centered. Sure you cant foul off as many pitches as you can with timing but at least I know when I get one down main street I feel like I can do more damage.

[NDAlum]

Re: Timing Hitting Vs PCI

I turned off PCI so it doesn't piss me off but I have stuck with timing. I might do the zone technique if I don't get better


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[The Chef]

Re: Timing Hitting Vs PCI

I turned off PCI so it doesn't piss me off but I have stuck with timing. I might do the zone technique if I don't get better


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Yeah I've also considered using zone lately. Watching Adrian Gonzalez at the plate get a fastball middle in and I time it right only to see that his PCI was down and away makes no sense to me. I know it's probably more about the outcome then the appearance of why or how it happened but I don't think I've seen many big leaguers have a pitch up in the zone swinging at the bottom of the zone like they have no idea where the pitch is going.

[kpkpkp]

Re: Timing Hitting Vs PCI

I always figured the location of the PCI when using timing or analog swing stick was random.

But then I though maybe it was related to my timing. (like if my timing was better the PCI would be put closer the actual pitch location.

But now I'm not sure....lol.

Maybe it is skill based (which would make the most sense).

Or maybe it's random.

[Kaiser Wilhelm]

Re: Timing Hitting Vs PCI

I have no idea what in the hell the PCI is supposed to be. It annoys the hell out of me in online play when I fool a guy badly, but because he was circle swinging the game fouls it off even though my opponent swung at the shoulders when the ball was at his shins.

I hope they rework the PCI for a new hitting mode where the PCI is absolute with regards to contact, but not necessarily the quality of the contact.

[Yankees3133]

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I do see the purpose in ratings being attributed to timing and it makes sense, but I feel like they are a bit too erratic. Watching my heavy hitters pop out over and over with pitches down the middle is getting old.

If you can get me out with a pitchers pitch, you deserve it. Pretty sure I'm going to try Zone hitting for a bit.

[The Chef]

Re: Timing Hitting Vs PCI

I always figured the location of the PCI when using timing or analog swing stick was random.

But then I though maybe it was related to my timing. (like if my timing was better the PCI would be put closer the actual pitch location.

But now I'm not sure....lol.

Maybe it is skill based (which would make the most sense).

Or maybe it's random.

I feel like it's more random then skill based with hot/cold status effecting it slightly as well. Adrian Gonzalez has a 91 contact vs RHP yet so many times he will swing way away from the pitch striking out, I'm talking times where it's a 3-1 fastball dead center and the guy is swinging low for some odd reason as if the very idea of a pitcher grooving one is new to him. I don't expect HR's everytime just because it was a fat pitch, I don't even expect base hits everytime, it's just a little odd seeing him whiff so badly or foul it off just to see that his PCI was nowhere near the pitch when that should have been the first place he was looking under the circumstances.

[bkrich83]

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I feel like it's more random then skill based with hot/cold status effecting it slightly as well. Adrian Gonzalez has a 91 contact vs RHP yet so many times he will swing way away from the pitch striking out, I'm talking times where it's a 3-1 fastball dead center and the guy is swinging low for some odd reason as if the very idea of a pitcher grooving one is new to him. I don't expect HR's everytime just because it was a fat pitch, I don't even expect base hits everytime, it's just a little odd seeing him whiff so badly or foul it off just to see that his PCI was nowhere near the pitch when that should have been the first place he was looking under the circumstances.

My understanding is it's based on ratings, timing, hot/cold zones, hot/cold streaks, pitcher confidence, etc.

I get your point, but even great hitters miss mistake pitches with frequency.

I like that it ratings based. Although I think zone hitting has a great feel to it. I may screw around with zone myself.

[The Chef]

Re: Timing Hitting Vs PCI

My understanding is it's based on ratings, timing, hot/cold zones, hot/cold streaks, pitcher confidence, etc.

I get your point, but even great hitters miss mistake pitches with frequency.

I like that it stats based. Although I think zone hitting has a great feel to it. I may screw around with zone myself.

Yeah they miss them but don't they typically miss them because they're late or slightly under the ball or over it? I guess maybe it's just a presentation issue and if he swung closer to it he would be guaranteed some form of contact so to simulate him missing they need to place the PCI well away from it. It could very well be nothing more then an animation issue in the end, I have no clue. As for the hot/cold streaks that I completely agree with, the zones one I'm not sure on as most guys dont have a cold zone belt high over the heart of the plate. I will continue with timing as I prefer to have a more ratings based outcome then my ability to simply line up the PCI manually so I'll just deal with the awkward PCI in relation to pitches that the batter should be looking for at times and chalk it up as a weird animation to simulate him missing the ball.

[Jr.]

Re: Timing Hitting Vs PCI

Yeah they miss them but don't they typically miss them because they're late or slightly under the ball or over it? I guess maybe it's just a presentation issue and if he swung closer to it he would be guaranteed some form of contact so to simulate him missing they need to place the PCI well away from it. It could very well be nothing more then an animation issue in the end, I have no clue. As for the hot/cold streaks that I completely agree with, the zones one I'm not sure on as most guys dont have a cold zone belt high over the heart of the plate. I will continue with timing as I prefer to have a more ratings based outcome then my ability to simply line up the PCI manually so I'll just deal with the awkward PCI in relation to pitches that the batter should be looking for at times and chalk it up as a weird animation to simulate him missing the ball.

This has become my thought on it.. the PCI is just poorly represented. Like NDAlum did, I just have the pitch feedback off so I don't see why the game says I missed a pitch. It's helped a lot with my frustration with using timing.

[The Chef]

Re: Timing Hitting Vs PCI

This has become my thought on it.. the PCI is just poorly represented. Like NDAlum did, I just have the pitch feedback off so I don't see why the game says I missed a pitch. It's helped a lot with my frustration with using timing.

I might have to give that a shot although I like seeing what the last pitch thrown was but I think pressing L3 can accomplish that if I do it quick enough.