Ratings or Production?

[Godgers12]

I'm curious to get everyone's philosophy on this. Do you set your roster and/or lineups based solely on a players production or his player ratings? For instance, if a player in the minors is tearing it up with a .330 avg and 15 HR's before the all star break, but is sub 50 in every hitting rating, would you call him up to the big club? Or if a player on the big club is hitting everything, but has worse ratings than players above him who are struggling a bit, would you move him up?

Just want to know everyone's thought process on this.

[underdog13]

Re: Ratings or Production?

Well for me; for minors its first they have to have the ratings then good stats. For mlb lvl its ratings for first 2 months then more production.

[Knight165]

Re: Ratings or Production?

In season....production...
Off season....ratings.



M.K.
Knight165

[moth to a flame]

Re: Ratings or Production?

Ratings. Streaks happen.

[petermc]

Re: Ratings or Production?

Batting average I manually track all of my teams month to month batting average the if a guy has options left and is hitting sub 230 and some one in the minors is hitting plus 280 then I will do a swap for them. Unless I have some one who is like a defensive specialist. If there is an injury highest batting average (unless I need something like speed) that can play the position I need. Then when I send some one down its back to lowest batting average (that is in a spot that I have depth in that is not a defensive specialist) with options left

In the off season s few things rating but not just overall sometimes I will have some lefty or righty specialist on my team.

[jmaj315]

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In season....production...
Off season....ratings.



M.K.
Knight165

This!
I start with opening day lineups based on ratings. After the end of April I adjust based on production. I like to look at the vs RHP/LHP as well
I tend to check up on how my guys are doing ever other week

Ratings. Streaks happen.

Right! So why leave a guy in the 8 spot if he's raking, where your #2 batter is only batting like .230
Especially if your cleanup hitters are hitting well

I agree that you shouldn't completely alter your lineup if your best hitters aren't performing well, but you gotta ride the hot bats

[moth to a flame]

Re: Ratings or Production?

Right! So why leave a guy in the 8 spot if he's raking, where your #2 batter is only batting like .230

Especially if your cleanup hitters are hitting well



I agree that you shouldn't completely alter your lineup if your best hitters aren't performing well, but you gotta ride the hot bats

Well, it's different than real life. These players are pretty much what their attributes say they are. So streaks are just coincidences, not hot/cold streaks.

Even in real life, a month or two is far to early to take any meaning from the stats. You said April. That's way too early.



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[ballin095]

Re: Ratings or Production?

I go by production to be honest, even carrying to the next season,

[NEOPARADIGM]

Re: Ratings or Production?

Ratings for stars/big money guys; production for everyone else.

[NDAlum]

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To me production matters more

Right now my 70 OVR DH/1B/3B/LF/RF, Astros Jesus Guzman, is #4 in the AL in HR's with 19 and on pace to hit about 35. His average has dipped off from .290 to .270 but he's still hitting the ball pretty well.

My feelings could be biased as the Stros don't really have high rated guys so I'm using mostly all average rated players. My best rated guys, George Springer & Jason Castro, are hitting below .250.

[B Easy]

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I think as with baseball, things tend to even themselves out over the course of the season. That's not to say I won't look at a sample size of a players production and adjust him in my lineup accordingly, but most of the time I tend to side with the ratings they are given.

I like to look at hitters stats vs RHP and LHP. I tend to platoon a lot of positions, and depending on who's pitching for me, I'll sub in a better defensive player when I'll need his glove over having a bar stretch playing that position.

Of course, I always found it to be more enjoyable when a guy like Jesus Guzman above, is having a breakout year. You always find one or two guys you get attached to who just play above their ratings.

[Bobhead]

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I go by ratings like 90% of the time.

I'm not convinced that this game gives boosts of any kind to "hot" players, so I haven't really embraced the idea of reacting to performance.

As someone else said, real life is very different, because you have varied confidence and whatnot that will facilitate more increased production from someone hitting well.

[cardinalbird5]

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Ratings...more specifically individual ratings.

I don't care if a guy hits .305 for a month in AAA...that doesn't mean he deserves to be called up.

On the other hand...I don't care if a guy hits .220 in AAA. If he has 90 contact vs LHP then I will call him and use him vs lefties.

[JPCaveman13]

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Individual ratings and production in situations.

I could have a hitter who's hitting .300+ at AA/AAA while his counterpart in AAA/MLB could be sub-.250. It could be because of the situations at-bat because the sub-.250 player may not always end up in favorable situations (having key ABs when having to face a specialist reliever or continually getting challenged because of his spot in the order).

Even then, I'll look at the individual ratings to see what I would be gaining/losing in a transfer. I may not make the switch if I'm going to get a liability in the field and on the basepaths to get a marginally better hitter.

I'll even factor in age when I'm in the off-season and looking at adding or letting someone go in addition to individual ratings and production. It may come into play a little as well in a potential call-up. If a player is fairly young (22-and-under), I may just leave him in AA for the season to allow him to fully develop even if he has good ratings for the level and is producing.

[jmaj315]

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Well, it's different than real life. These players are pretty much what their attributes say they are. So streaks are just coincidences, not hot/cold streaks.

Even in real life, a month or two is far to early to take any meaning from the stats. You said April. That's way too early.

I think the end of April is fair, about 25 games... 75 ABs or more
And I'm not talking a huge change in the lineup, and sometimes i dont make any changes. But I like to know how guys started.

Also, I realize its a game, but I dont think streaks are coincidences.