Enough With The Suicide Squeezes

[ralphieboy11]

Re: Enough With The Suicide Squeezes

Why must you take it so personally? The majority of people that play this game find a setting where they usually win most of their games or they play with the best teams. It's just human nature. That doesn't mean it's YOU or anyone in this thread. It doesn't mean these people are losers either. Play the game however you like. I'm just trying to give an example of why some might not see the squeezes as often as others. This seems to be the most logical reason.

There could also be other reasons why they don't see them, hence the "or something".

[roolz]

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140 games into my season, no attempts at all.

I do use QC though... but still. And on top of that pretty much the only bunt attempts are by pitchers, from the top of my head I think only 3 or 4 positional guys have tried bunting.

[Mrmagoo]

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Yeah, that's not what you said at all. I'll quote again for emphasis:

I don't have to spin your words at all. You slip the "or something" in there, but it's not hard to see the intent of what you're saying. Those of us that aren't experiencing this, must be playing on easy settings.

Either way, I've played probably around 60-70 full games, and the vast majority of those had a score difference within 3 runs, and I haven't seen a squeeze play yet. Not saying it doesn't happen, just that I'm glad I'm not experiencing it.

Lol, I don't know.... I've read your posts Ralphie and didn't think that at all. As said I too have seen an over abundance of squeeze plays, not at all much of a problem tho. Now the amount of over all bunts I do think is a bit more extreme. But again I certainly didn't take anything away from your post other than what you said.

[nomo17k]

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Bunting in general seem to happen more often with poorer hitters, so I think I see them more when I play RTTS games down in minors.

I have seen a few questionable squeeze attempts, like when bases loaded with two outs in an extra inning. I believe that was one of the CPU vs. CPU games that I was watching (which I was eagerly waiting to finish so that I could record the results and move on to the next one). I don't exactly remember the quality of hitter at the plate, but I think he was someone who I wouldn't consider poor enough a hitter for making a bunt attempt. So I felt weird.

I think the latter is basically a bug. Two outs and bases loaded... both are not suited for squeeze.

[ralphieboy11]

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I have run a lot of cpu vs. cpu games through the years as well. I do it to test sliders, plus I just think it's cool to see the seasons play out without user intervention.

This could be a reason why I've seen more of these squeeze plays than others. If you are running cpu vs. cpu you sort of double your chances because you are not controlling one of the teams yourself.

[Heroesandvillains]

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I use QC's exclusively right now.
I played about 100 games with QC's and have had 1 suicide squeeze against me...(I think it was a missed bunt attempt with men on 1 and 3rd actually...but Matty V. called it a squeeze attempt when the catcher missed the ball in the dirt)

I probably played about 30 non-QC games and had 1 there as well. Straight up SS.

I think it's a tough thing......if they are going to have it in the game....they have to give it a trigger and then a % of happening on that trigger. Some players might just not get the trigger....or the % of it happening....
Some might be hitting it too much on the trigger of the %.

The guys who are hitting it and saying it needs to be toned down....are perplexing the guys who rarely get it and the reverse I guess.

Tough call.

M.K.
Knight165

This is an excellent post.

Suppose Ramone shipped every Show-er on OS a penny, with the rules "please flip it 162 times and write down the results."

Most people would fall within an 'average' range. Though surly some people would land heads 20 times in a row.

These people would likely be astonished by this outcome, think Ramone's penny was weighted or something, and create threads about it.

When a lot of people are exposed to randomness or chance, some people are going to experience the extremes.

I think that's exactly what's going on here (141 games in, never seen a squeeze). But threads like these are important incase the 'average' is off from our expectations, though.

Dialogue like this is always healthy. It actually makes me happy to see such varied experiences!

[Mrmagoo]

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While I agree on the discussion is good. I still think that with all the other variables (ratings in different rosters, different sim engines depending on mode played, different pitch habits that we as players have that the cpu might pick up on and trigger a squeeze play or any kind of bunt) are most likely the reason there is a wide variety of experiences.

[braves_94]

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It just hasn't been this year either. The past couple of iterations, I've seen squeezes probably 2 out of every 15 games. So much so, it's actually a strategy I employ with hitters in the back end of my lineup. But maybe I should keep track of how the game is progressing. Maybe they're happening in games in which my pitcher is dominating, and the CPU feels there's no other way. I use HOF pitching/hitting, with auto fielding and base running.

[Jibbler]

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The only time I will attempt it is if the bases are loaded and only 1 or 0 out, the scores are level and it means walk off! a few times I have found myself look stupid and missed and it has costed me

[Bobhead]

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I haven't seen a single squeeze this year. I've used one though. It worked quite well.

Your sliders could also affect the percentage rates. Just like stealing, swinging, and everything else... the CPU is aware of its own abilities. If the sliders are tilted in the runner's favor (ie, runners are faster than fielders), the CPU will abuse that, by, for example, bunting more frequently.

[Jr.]

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I finally saw one. Bottom 8th, 2 outs, 3-2 lead over the Giants. Brandon Crawford tried a drag/squeeze and popped it up. Not the ideal situation