MLB 14: The Show Ratings Discussion Thread

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I want to make this thread is for discussing player ratings outside of an entire roster project. I like to do my own personal edits for players that I deem to be incorrect or slightly off. For example, I did my own personal redo of Tanaka and I thought Mike Trout was a little underrated in certain areas (hard to believe, I know). I'd like to discuss ratings without feeling guilty in people's roster project threads. I don't want to create the assumption that I am complaining about their hard work.

I'd be very interested to converse on all players, but right now I could use an unbiased eye. I am trying to get a realistic J.D. Martinez in my franchise. I know he is not as good as he is playing right now (but if he is, I will definitely take it), so I could use some other opinions to help me shape him up. Because he completely re-did his swing, http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/j-d-m...es-everything/, its hard to determine how much of his Astros stats should be taken into account. That being said, you definitely can't toss them out the window and use just this year's data.

For Contact, I look at average. I would really like to gather opinions on how high a certain average tends to be. Roughly what does a 75 equate to for you.
Power - ISO. Same as average. If I put a player at 90, how many HRs does that equate to.
Vision - K%.
Discipline - BB%.
Clutch - I pretty much ignore.
Bunting - mostly the same, ignore.
Durabililty - Games played.
Fielding stats - I have a rough time with, but I mostly use Fangraphs advanced data.
Speed - I have a hard time with this one, too. I can't find anywhere to look at clocked times, if there is a place that records it. But, Austin Jackson was a 69, so I am not sure if I just perceive him slower than other people or SCEA's rating are different than what I perceive.
Stealing - SB%
BR AGG - Stolen Base Attempts

So, back to J.D. Martinez:
Currently my opinion looks like this.
ConR - 57 (career avg - .266)
ConL - 49 (career avg - .247)
PwrR - 75 (career ISO - .155, 2014 - .333 <-too good, unsustainable)
PwrL - 71 (career ISO - .173, 2014 - .256 <-same, unsustainable, maybe)
Vision - 30 (career 23.5 k%)
Discipline - 45 (6.4 BB%)
Clutch - 50 (I really hate clutch. Don't believe in it)
Bunt - 20
Drag Bunt - 20
Durability - 75 (not enough data to say if he sways one way or the other)
Fielding - 60
Arm Str - 60
Arm Acc - 65
Reaction - 50
Speed - 65
Stealing - 15
BR Agg - 10

[kmoser]

MLB 14: The Show Ratings Discussion Thread

Clutch - 50 (I really hate clutch. Don't believe in it)

I agree with you 100% about clutch because there is no clutch in real life, they either hit or walk in the late innings or they get out.
But since this is a video game I've noticed that guys with higher clutch get more hits at the end than guys that have a low clutch. BTW, I really hate that lol.
Speaking of JD though I think you could edit his contact a little since he is producing better this year with a new and improved swing. This could just be a fluke year and he could just go back to being normal again so in not sure


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I agree with you 100% about clutch because there is no clutch in real life, they either hit or walk in the late innings or they get out.
But since this is a video game I've noticed that guys with higher clutch get more hits at the end than guys that have a low clutch. BTW, I really hate that lol.
Speaking of JD though I think you could edit his contact a little since he is producing better this year with a new and improved swing. This could just be a fluke year and he could just go back to being normal again so in not sure


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Yea, I hate ESPN and their use of the word clutch. haha

I think I have actually decreased his Contact rating compared to SCEA, but really boosted his PWR numbers, they were in the 40s-50s if I recall correctly. He's been more of a power hitter and not very good in average.

[kmoser]

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Yea, I hate ESPN and their use of the word clutch. haha



I think I have actually decreased his Contact rating compared to SCEA, but really boosted his PWR numbers, they were in the 40s-50s if I recall correctly. He's been more of a power hitter and not very good in average.

Sounds good to me. I have a question about Altuve though. His rated potential is an 88 but with the way he is playing he should have an A potential and possibly a slight bump in contact and maybe eye. Does that seem fair? Maybe a 92-93 potential?


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Sounds good to me. I have a question about Altuve though. His rated potential is an 88 but with the way he is playing he should have an A potential and possibly a slight bump in contact and maybe eye. Does that seem fair? Maybe a 92-93 potential?


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I do think he is better than the game has him as. I made my own personal tweaks on him, but I can't remember them off the top of my head. I'll definitely share with you what I have when I get the chance. I think I put his potential at 90.

[Godgers12]

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I'm trying to figure out a good rating for James Jones. He is one of the 3 or 4 fastest players in baseball. And he is hitting .296 this season, and has 17 SB on 18 attempts, including two 3 steal games, since late May when he became our full time starting CF. The Mariners' season seemed to take off once we called him up. But, he is a rookie, so I want to be as realistic as possible.

[Scott]

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I'm trying to figure out a good rating for James Jones. He is one of the 3 or 4 fastest players in baseball. And he is hitting .296 this season (irl). The Mariners' season seemed to take off once we called him up. But, he is a rookie, so I want to be as realistic as possible.

Actually, thebaseballcube rates his speed at 82. Definitely a lot of people faster than him.


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[Godgers12]

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Actually, thebaseballcube rates his speed at 82. Definitely a lot of people faster than him.


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They're definitely misinformed. I never even heard of thebaseballcube before, and I'm part of the sabremetric crowd. He is definitely between 92 and 95 speed imo.

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Actually, thebaseballcube rates his speed at 82. Definitely a lot of people faster than him.


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That stat/score has to do with his stolen base ability, not his physical speed. http://thebaseballcube.com/about/scouting.asp

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I'm trying to figure out a good rating for James Jones. He is one of the 3 or 4 fastest players in baseball. And he is hitting .296 this season, and has 17 SB on 18 attempts, including two 3 steal games, since late May when he became our full time starting CF. The Mariners' season seemed to take off once we called him up. But, he is a rookie, so I want to be as realistic as possible.

I'll definitely take a look at him for you and give my opinion. Physical speed is hard to judge because its not really quantified anywhere. Until field f/x is made public, physical speed times aren't readily available, or accurate, for the public. Saying he is one of the top 4 fastest players may be correct or incorrect and I am sure I'll be unable to answer that.

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Sounds good to me. I have a question about Altuve though. His rated potential is an 88 but with the way he is playing he should have an A potential and possibly a slight bump in contact and maybe eye. Does that seem fair? Maybe a 92-93 potential?


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Jose Altuve 81 Ovr A Pot:

Pot: 90
ConR: 70
ConL: 90
PwrR: 26
PwrL: 37
Bunting: 45
Drag: 19
Plate Vision: 75
Plate Discipline: 37
Clutch: 50
Durability: 90
Speed: 93
Arm Str: 55
Arm Acc: 80
Reaction: 50
Fielding: 70
Stealing: 94
BR Agg: 90

[kmoser]

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Jose Altuve 81 Ovr A Pot:



Pot: 90

ConR: 70

ConL: 90

PwrR: 26

PwrL: 37

Bunting: 45

Drag: 19

Plate Vision: 75

Plate Discipline: 37

Clutch: 50

Durability: 90

Speed: 93

Arm Str: 55

Arm Acc: 80

Reaction: 50

Fielding: 70

Stealing: 94

BR Agg: 90

That looks good. I am years in on my franchise but am thinking of starting over possibly and doing 30 team control. I will use this for Altuve so thanks for the input!


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[Godgers12]

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What would you guys suggest as a good starting point for Gabriel Guerrero? I want to try and develop him into a beast like his uncle was. I'm going to give him A pot, mainly based on what he is doing in the minors this season (irl), and it'll be easier to develop him into that beast, but what should his ratings initially be? My OF consists of James Jones, Billy Hamilton, and Michael Saunders. With all that speed and defense in the OF I can be patient with him. I'll probably move Saunders when Guerrero is ready.

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What would you guys suggest as a good starting point for Gabriel Guerrero? I want to try and develop him into a beast like his uncle was. I'm going to give him A pot, mainly based on what he is doing in the minors this season (irl), and it'll be easier to develop him into that beast, but what should his ratings initially be? My OF consists of James Jones, Billy Hamilton, and Michael Saunders. With all that speed and defense in the OF I can be patient with him. I'll probably move Saunders when Guerrero is ready.

Seeing as he is in A, his rating would be very low. Are you using the OSFM set? I think his rating in that set is already really good, perhaps giving him more credit.

[kmoser]

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So I have done a few franchises and Chris Carter always hits .250-.260. I wish he could do that in real life but we all know he probably can't. Sure I like the production but I like my rosters to be realistic so what attributes should I decrease? For sure contact but possibly eye as well? His eye rating is all ready really low but when you are going to probably be a .220 career hitter, it should be low.


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