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Recognize Changeup?
Anyone have tips for recognizing/hitting the changeup? That pitch is killing me!Tags: None -
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I wish I did. That and Splitfinger FBs are nearly impossible for me. The only time I hit them is when I face a guy that throws high 90s and his CH/SPL are in the mid 80s. -
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This could be due to the release style of some pitchers too, but there's an ever so slight arc to the ball as it's released when compared to a FB.
As noted above, I just try to apply the situation and look for it and hope I can foul off the FB if I'm duped.Comment
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Honestly I don't think there are tips, I do well with them but don't really do anything specific or different, I just think it becomes more of a feel thing.
I will say I have much more success with them against pitchers that don't have as hard of a fastball (it's not the differentiation between the speed of the pitches but how much quicker I have to react to someone like Felix Hernandez's fastball).Comment
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Not much to look for as far as tips. That's the idea behind changeups and why pitchers with good changeups are so effective. Changeups are meant to look like fastballs with their release it's all in how the pitcher holds the ball for how slow it comes.
Best tip I can give you is be aware of your count and the pitcher's tendencies.
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Look for it....sit on it
I almost always look offspeed and I can still hit mid to away fastballs to opposite field or foul them. Inside fastballs you will get jammed...but oh well don't swing until you have to. Sliders are the hardest pitches for me to pick up on.
Circle change or Vulcan change ups you can change your camera angle to get some better depth perception on the break and pick it up like that. Straight changes are pretty tough to pick up on a video game though.Comment
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I'm a sucker for the high fastball. The higher it is, the more difficult it is for me to lay off of it.Comment
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The main strength of changeup is the obscuration, so it is naturally difficult to distinguish the pitch from fastball... otherwise, what's the point?
That said, it is extra difficult in the game because we cannot have the 3D perception, so when the pitch is coming directly toward you, the speed difference is not as easily felt. That's one reason why I like using an offset camera, so that the pitch travels a little more on the screen. So I think that's one option. Using an offset camera.
I got much better at handling off-speed junks low in the zone in general when I started to learn to lay them off.
If a change up is thrown low, then it will drop off the table and becomes a ball, so it's better to just let it go than trying to hit it. The only issue is that if it's a fastball, then it may be a strike. But with a pitch thrown low, you have a split second more to judge whether it's a fastball or change.
If I go after a changeup, then I actually look for one thrown around the middle of the plate... since if it is indeed a change up, then it will only catch the bottom part of the strike zone. You have a chance that you might actually miss a fat fastball down the middle, but it's a trade off between that and whiffing/grounding weakly on a low changeup.Comment
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You can't look for a change-up.
The whole point of the pitch is to throw it in a spot where you are supposed to be looking for a fastball.
So unless you are going to concede giving up a fastball I wouldn't recommend looking for a changeup.
The only way to truly hit a changeup is to be able to learn to read it and adjust to it.Comment
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The main strength of changeup is the obscuration, so it is naturally difficult to distinguish the pitch from fastball... otherwise, what's the point?
That said, it is extra difficult in the game because we cannot have the 3D perception, so when the pitch is coming directly toward you, the speed difference is not as easily felt. That's one reason why I like using an offset camera, so that the pitch travels a little more on the screen. So I think that's one option. Using an offset camera.
I got much better at handling off-speed junks low in the zone in general when I started to learn to lay them off.
If a change up is thrown low, then it will drop off the table and becomes a ball, so it's better to just let it go than trying to hit it. The only issue is that if it's a fastball, then it may be a strike. But with a pitch thrown low, you have a split second more to judge whether it's a fastball or change.
If I go after a changeup, then I actually look for one thrown around the middle of the plate... since if it is indeed a change up, then it will only catch the bottom part of the strike zone. You have a chance that you might actually miss a fat fastball down the middle, but it's a trade off between that and whiffing/grounding weakly on a low changeup.
I wouldnt say i have trouble with changeups, but when the cpu throws a 55 ft curveball i swing at it thinking its a low FB lolI used to put important things hereComment
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You can't look for a change-up.
The whole point of the pitch is to throw it in a spot where you are supposed to be looking for a fastball.
So unless you are going to concede giving up a fastball I wouldn't recommend looking for a changeup.
The only way to truly hit a changeup is to be able to learn to read it and adjust to it.
So technically..you aren't "conceding fastballs". If you get your timing and discipline down you can take inside fastballs or foul them off....and still adjust to offspeed/away fastballs. No one said it was easy nor is there an ultimatum approach.
I've been using this approach for 5 years now and it hasn't really failed. The only other thing I can recommend (other than the offset camera) is simply practice, practice, and practice. Give a pitcher all changeups and go into practice mode to hit against him.Comment
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You can't look for a change-up.
The whole point of the pitch is to throw it in a spot where you are supposed to be looking for a fastball.
So unless you are going to concede giving up a fastball I wouldn't recommend looking for a changeup.
The only way to truly hit a changeup is to be able to learn to read it and adjust to it.
When I'm in a pitcher's count, especially 0-2, I'm definitely looking offspeed and just trying to fight off fastballs to stay alive (which again is when I'm most susceptible to the high fastball). In particular I'm looking for low curveballs, sliders that run out of the zone, etc. You have to expect the pitcher to throw something out of the zone in hopes that you chase the ball for strike three. I've been frozen on fastballs down the middle on 0-2 counts, most likely a missed spot by the pitcher, but I wasn't looking for it. But that's baseball.
That's how I approach hitting in The Show.Comment
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The issue is you can't see the spin. In real life you see the spin if a change up.
I went to Catcher 2 view and have had a much better time hitting low change ups.
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